NOAA also collects and analyzes key climate data

    • @[email protected]
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      I’m just going to call my friends who live to the west every 10 minutes and ask if there’s a tornado there. If they don’t answer I’ll just assume there is one and go hide. Problem solved.

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      Don’t worry, they’re also doing that by taking down storm sirens and replacing them with mobile alerts because basic maintenance is too much to ask. They just assume everyone has access to a phone at all times and that said phone is charged and capable of receiving the alert. Y’know, because the young and elderly don’t deserve to be warned of an incoming tornado!

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        Hold on. Let me tell you. Sirens in Tennessee are the most bass ackward thing already.

        Instead of having a siren sound going off while there is danger in the area… the siren going off is just the NOAA voice reading the alert like you hear on the radio! Big ass “siren” goes, “The National Weather Service has issued a tornado warning for (list of counties). At 7:55PM, Central Daylight Time, a storm capable of producing a tornado was located-”

        After it reads off this useless info, what does it do? It shuts off. It stops making noise.

        How are you supposed to hear it over the rain and thunder? How are you supposed to know when the danger is passed?

        If it worked like it does in Oklahoma I would defend it but this is a travesty.

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          That’s certainly not normal. I’ve seen numerous recordings of voice-capable sirens from TN and I’ve never seen one broadcast any EAS messages. Usually there’s pre-recorded messages like “Tornado warning. This is a tornado warning. Residents should immediately take cover.” stored on the controller which is used for such cases. For the siren to be doing what you’re describing means something is seriously wrong with your sirens. Probably an incompetent EMA manager.

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            I obviously refuse to tell you what specific part of Tennessee I’m in but I’ll try to find someone to email about it.

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              Definitely get in contact woth with your local EMA. With storms only getting worse and more frequent it’s pretty urgent.

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    It’s never clear whether they’re more corrupt or more stupid. But they’re determined to bury their heads in the sand over the most important issue ever to face humanity, and dismantle the resources the USA has to mitigate the disaster. Corrupt and stupid and delusional.

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        The older I get, the more I buck prior societal trends and lean socialist.

        Capitalism is a benefit only to the Parasite Class. It’s an absolute scam for everyone else.

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      Fuck climate change, NOAA provides hurricane and heat warnings. They’re what most weather providers use as the basis for telling people if you should grab an umbrella on your way out the door

      Starting a culture war with the weather is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. What’s your end game? Weatherman Alex Jones telling Floridians to go to the beach because the hurricane is just going to glide by safely and bring a nice cool breeze to the shore to keep you comfy?

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        I’ve already seen yapping heads on sticks claiming that extreme heat warnings are fake-- for example, Neil Oliver. But he also says vaccines cause cancer, so he can fuck right off.

        And if they ignore hurricane warnings to own the libs, what can you do but shrug your shoulders?

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        Climate change affects everybody numbnuts. It’s not culture war to want a habitable and healthy planet. If that’s what you think, you should talk to more scientists, and watch less tv.

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          I think you misinterpreted my comment, the point was they’re obviously doing this because they want to continue to deny climate change, but that’s like 1% of what NOAA does.

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            To be completely fair…they might also be doing it “so we stop getting bad weather”…so it is up in the air with those lunatics.

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    These jerks are doing it because they don’t want to hear bad climate news. Fucking brilliant.

  • Phoenixz
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    Basically do what you did to healthcare to the entire country

    The US will next year be a third world banana Republic dictatorship

    • Echo Dot
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      Oh no, worse than that, at least banana republics actually have useful exports.

      • Phoenixz
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        No, exactly like that. The US has lots of useful exports, and as with banana Republics, almost all the money goes to a very limited set of rich and powerful

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    I just got a weather alert for severe storms. If they get rid of NOAA does that mean that I’ve just got to hope for the best at all times?

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    It further notes that scientific agencies such as NOAA are “vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims,” so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.

    do we want flood-risk predictions sponsored by a flood-insurance company, or heat advisories from an air-conditioning conglomerate?

    The agency is home to one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, which includes information on shifting atmospheric conditions and the health of coastal fisheries, plus hundreds of thousands of years’ worth of ice-core and tree-ring data.

    Eliminating or privatizing climate information won’t eliminate the effects of climate change. It will only make them more deadly.

    It sounds like the counter to this is to point out to voters that they don’t really want to pay more for fish because fishermen can’t get data, and we don’t want planes to be even less reliable AND cost more because the government stops tracking upper level wind speeds, and that, generally, we want people who get a salary for doing accurate work rather than people who get paid to say whatever the bossman want to hear. Ask them to imagine how it would work if Google, NBC, Amazon, and Fox each sunk the money for trying to replicate the existing infrastructure and then sold pieces of it to paying customers – such as Allstate, CBS, and Delta Airlines. Everyone else would have to HOPE they were getting complete data and have to wonder what was missing. Noticing record highs and lows would become proprietary and forbidden from broadcast in a way akin to being disallowed from referencing “The Superbowl” unless you pay for a license. How’s any of that going to work?

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    That sounds like something I would put on my plan to undermine and cripple a country if you ask me. Did an enemy of America write Project 2025?

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      31 of the 38 people who helped write or edit the project served in some manner in Trump’s administration or transition

      Project 2025: inside Trump’s ties to the rightwing policy playbook

      Some more extracts:

      Roberts, the Heritage leader, has said he met with Trump several times and they were friendly. Trump gave the signature speech at a Heritage conference after Roberts took over the foundation. When Roberts was tapped for the role, Trump said he would be “so incredible” and “outstanding”.

      Paul Dans and Steven Groves co-edited the project, which includes chapters on federal agencies written by former Trump officials, allies or other conservative experts. Both Dans and Groves served in multiple roles in the Trump administration. Another big contributor to the project is Russ Vought, who Trump appointed as director of the Office of Management and Budget.

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    They still mad that they didn’t change their hurricane report when Trump redrew it with a Sharpie.

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      Actually it’s just because there’s rich people who are profiting off of weather reporting apps. NOAA is actually banned from advertising their reports. And they still have a sizeable portion of the market because it’s just straight up a better service. So the next big windfall is to kill the government’s public reports altogether and make the private apps the only place you can find them.

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          Oh yeah that’s 100 percent part of it. But the push over the line for modern mainstream conservatives is watching the government do something the private sector could profit from. That’s literally the line they’ve said they wanted between public and private sector ever since I was old enough to pay attention to politics in the 90’s. The climate change thing is why the radicals care and why it’s a run at the entirety of NOAA instead of just the NWS.

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      I wouldn’t mind betting there’s an element of truth there. The orange man child would do it out of spite.

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      A lot of the “private sector” weather services just scrape NOAA or other public-sector data and apply some branding to it.

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      We alllll use NOAA to get our weather. That’s what every weather forcaster uses. Even in Canada a lot of our data is from NOAA. Environment Canada has their own data but it’s pretty shit in comparison.

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        In the Dominican Republic, many people, myself included rely on it to track hurricanes so we don’t die.

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          Shades of “Who would have thought healthcare was so complicated?” No offense. There are so many basic services people just don’t think about.

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            Wished american services and government functions are course(s) taught in middle and high school. It’s a huge shame that almost no knows how the government works in detail, including me, as I have to learn as I go.

        • capital
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          If Trump wins I’m afraid more people will be saying this more often about more services.

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            Its a classic republican tactic to claim the government is useless and needs to be replaced, then cut funding so the government can’t do its job, then use that as proof that they were right to cut funding.

            • capital
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              See how useless this program I made useless is???

    • @[email protected]
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      Because Barry Myers is CEO of AccuWeather, and he paid good money to be Director of NOAA for 4 years

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      Cool, so, whose pockets are those taxes dollars going back into? I’m sure it ain’t going to be ours.

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        I don’t know, but they don’t talk about social security like it’s ‘free money for seniors’, they paid into it. We pay taxes for these services, they shouldn’t be framed as free, like we’re freeloaders and should be thankful we had it so long (that’s the trumpist framing).