I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

“If you use adblock, you don’t care about creator’s point blank”

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬
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    12 years ago

    I use AdBlock (and SponsorBlock on YouTube, and a cookie whitelist and a JavaScript whitelist) because only I decide what to see on my screen.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Counter point: Any creator blindly putting random ad networks on their site doesn’t care about their users. Every ad should be vetted and served by the creator, those kinda ads are impossible to mass-block. If an ad swindles a user, it should be the creators reputation thats at stake.

    I stopped having a bad conscience for blocking when one blog who begged promised to not autoplay any audio. The very next day it of course showed a very loud ad, and the creator excused it with “he didn’t have any control over what the advertisement network showed”.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      This is exactly what I was thinking. How many incredibly sketchy, scammy, or outright invasive ad scripts are we supposed to tolerate? For me the answer is “none” and I’m quite happy that way.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    As the de facto IT guy for my family, I block ads on all their computers just as a basic safety measure.

    I can usually spot a fake download button and avoid scammy sites, but my parents and grandparents seem magnetically attracted to them

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Plus there are ads now that give you plague just by loading them, which is uniquely horrifying to those of us who are informal tech support. D:

  • z3rOR0ne
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    02 years ago

    I do everything under the sun pretty much. Ublock origin, NoScript, chameleon extensions on Librewolf (and others). I “subscribe” to YouTube channels via rss feeds. Open up the newsboat feed reader from my terminal and an extension called “Alter” redirects me to an invidious instance. NoScript blocks everything pretty much as I just need the url. Then I use yt-dlp with the sponsorblock flag.

    I only visit YouTube when I have a bunch of new “subs” that I found through word of mouth (reading blogs, HN, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc). I could just use invidious rss feeds, but if the instance goes down I would have to start all over again. There are other ways of achieving this same effect, but this is how I choose to consume yt now.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    -12 years ago

    Yes, because most sites are completely unreadable without it. I also don’t want to be loading megabytes of garbage with all the ads, trackers, and whatever other shit people stick on commercial websites nowadays.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    Of course. And I’ll continue to do so as long as advertisement is detrimental to my online experience. If it wastes my time by forcing me to watch an ad before a video, if it distracts me from reading a text because of animations, if it tries to scam or shock me, I’m better off blocking it. I’m not against advertisement as communication that a useful product or service exists, I’m against advertisement abuse and greed.

    I’ll happily pay for, donate to, or otherwise support services important to me that need and deserve it.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    If I don’t block ads, then I’m stealing from the advertiser who’s paying per impression to someone who isn’t interested in their crap.

    If the ad makes noise, moves around the screen, crashes my browser, or otherwise actively interferes with my ability to obtain the information I was looking for, It’ll leave me with such a negative impression that I won’t buy anything from that brand, now or ever – or from the creator who allowed them to break an otherwise good website.

    So really, by blocking ads, I’m defending the good reputation of both creators and their sponsors.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    If someone wants me to read their site, they won’t have it overloaded with intrusive ads, hammer me with popups, and plant tracking cookies in my browser.

    If they do have all that stuff? I’ll still read their site, but they aren’t gonna make any money off me doing it.

  • Downtide
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    12 years ago

    yes, because no ads basically means my antivirus software has nothing to do. Creators have no choice over what ads are served up with the content and 99% of ads are loaded with malware whether you click on them or not.

    Creators need to come up with better ways to monetise their content instead of relying on them.

  • Tb0n3
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    02 years ago

    I use adblock because it makes the internet usable. There’s just so much crap shoved in your face these days. Not just ads that are blocked, but sponsored search results and SEO crap that you have to use your time and energy to filter out. I don’t know how anybody actually buys stuff or responds to internet ads. I’m more and more on the Dead Internet Theory bandwagon.

  • @[email protected]
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    02 years ago

    I’m not a hardcore capitalist. Also i can’t watch all the ads the corporations would like to feed me every day. So i’m fine with using an adblocker. Don’t give stuff out for free on the internet if you don’t like this. But since you ask: I really don’t like that strategy to commercialize everything, to finance everything by selling ads and user data…

    • Jerald
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      02 years ago

      undefined> capitalist

      are you a capitalist tho? I mean, I consider myself a capitalist and let’s just say people don’t agree with me a lot here. anyways, how has this platform been treating you

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        lol. i watched way too much star trek when i was a kid. i would consider myself as someone who dislikes capitalism. but that’s my private thing. i like having money available to buy food, eat nice noodles or go on vacation every now and then. but i wouldn’t be sad if that somehow worked without the concept of money or some of the big companies.

        i like this platform. i’m fine, thanks for asking.

  • Marxism-Fennekinism
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    2 years ago

    The story of internet ads is a classic greed to ruins fable. People put up with static picture and text ads for a very long time, and many, myself included, still don’t mind them. In fact, self-hosting picture and text ads is almost guaranteed to get through adblockers.

    But then the ads started moving. They started playing sound. They started executing code and phoning home to third party servers and collecting user data without consent. They started consuming more system resources than the webpage itself. Malware started being distributed through it, and there was even a recent breakthrough of ad cryptominers, because, again, they literally execute arbitrary code on your computer!

    At this point our trust in ads are irreversibly broken. We will never tolerate ads again like we did when they hadn’t done all this, even if they promises to clean up their act. Adblock was developed as not just something to remove unsightly ads, but also, and I do not exaggerate when I say this, as a line of defense for the security and usability of your computer. It’s like an antivirus, but it kicks in before the virus even reaches your computer! For this reason, I think adblockers are not only okay to have, but essentially a mandatory item for browsing today’s internet. If you want revenue in spite of that, maybe set up a tip jar and/or go back to self-hosted text and picture ads, I’m not disabling adblock and opening myself to harm because, no offense, I genuinely do not trust you.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    If you, as a creator, choose to use advertising to monetize your content you don’t respect the limited lifetime of the people consuming your content or their security or about the way the marketing and advertising industry is destroying our society, such as (not exhaustive, just off the top of my head right now)

    • building a surveillance economy, destroying privacy in the process
    • manipulating people into voting in certain ways that are harmful to them and others
    • protecting harmful products from scrutiny (e.g. tobacco, alcohol, products with too much sugar or fat or low quality ingredients, the car and oil industries, corporate climate change denial,…)
    • encouraging overconsumption both in terms of quantity and in terms of items or services they don’t really need
    • destroying content platforms with their mantra “not advertiser friendly”, leading to dystopian self-censorship on e.g. Youtube

    And then there is the way internet advertising can spread malware and compromise the security of websites in general.

    If you do want to monetize content in other ways there are models such as subscriptions or Patreon-style that are a lot more respectful of the user.

    • @[email protected]
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      02 years ago

      Absolutely. I understand things aren’t for free, but if you make my experience subpar I’m blocking ads.

      I wish more creators would make content available across more platforms.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Oh yeah, I completely forgot to mention the way the advertising industry has basically ignored every feedback from users for two decades or more by making ads ever more intrusive and obnoxious. They reap what they sow.