American butter is shit tbf
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Too long didn’t read
you didn’t miss anything, just someone sharing their made up story
Are people possibly confusing what people call butter here - margarine - and butter? Store bought butter tastes the same as fresh churned farm butter…
…no, it doesn’t.
Absolutely just some posh dude’s fanfiction
I went to a house party once that was a lot of different nationalities of Europeans. Two French guys got increasingly drunk and belligerent about the aesthetic quality of French churches versus Irish churches. To the point they had to he asked to leave because they were close to starting a fight. I’ve met several frenfh people over the years and theres always some spontaneous comparison between something in france vs here. OPs story is not so far fetched.
Honestly the only thing more cringe than French people talking about France is Texans talking about Texas
frenfh
IDK man is this one of those things where as an American I grew up with like super processed chocolate and regular chocolate would just taste strange to me?
Chocolate is a big one.
I’m talking specifically big brands, not chocolatiers, but something like Hershey’s is absurd.
American chocolate is way too crumbly and oil-without-flavor with some weird mustiness; pretty much every country has better chocolate than the US.
American to international chocolate is like ketchup on a tortilla compared to a gourmet pizza.
The difference isn’t even really noticeable in most dishes.
If you are doing something where butter is a main component you can use it to finish off your dish for some extra texture mostly. It’s just more creamy out of the box.
For anything pan fried or where “tasting butter” is a component the vast majority of folks couldn’t pass a blind taste test reliably at all.
Also, regular dark chocolate is garbage and more of this smugness. If you want 98% dark chocolate bitter shit, fine. But don’t let smug redditors and lemmy lounge lizards bully you into liking sweet chocolate. Same with American beer, we have some of the worlds best. It’s all gatekeeping smugness.
The American chocolate thing isn’t about chocolate %. An American came up with a process to help preserve the dairy, however this creates an amount of butyric acid as a bi-product. Completely fine health wise, but the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting. Its largely responsible for the iconic taste and smell associated with vomit. So for people that didn’t grow up eating American chocolate, American chocolate literally tastes like vomit.
the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting
On the contrary, it’s also the delicious tang in Parmesan cheese. American chocolate tastes as much like vomit as real Parmesan cheese does
American beer, we have some of the worlds best
Such as? I’m not at all a beer gourmet and don’t particularly dislike American beer (not even the light variants) but I’ve been to multiple states and never got a beer I considered top notch.
For example I’ve been to Florida just recently and apparently IPA is the shit nowadays. Didn’t like a single one of them, they all tasted artificial.
Edit: Also, I hope your bar for European beer isn’t stuff like Heineken or Beck’s. They are not bad but pretty basic stuff sold worldwide. Nobody in Europe considers those particularly great.
Sounds like you are probably going to generic restaurants and ordering mass produced IPAs and getting our version of becks. I can happily suggest a fantastic beer if you want to give me your style of choice.
As a belgian, America having some of the best beer sounds like cope to me when belgium, germany, czechia exist
As both and American and a lover of Belgian ales, I’d be inclined to agree that we almost certainly don’t have better beer than you (or I) would prefer. We do have some excellent beer, but the focus is on other styles.
German beer hasn’t been relevant in the competition scene in 10 years. The French and Dutch carry the Belgium scene. Id put our best up against the Belgium best any day and have mixed results depending on category.
Never had anything from czechia though, no clue.
It’s really amusing how Americans do not cope with other countries having good things.
Even the tiniest things, like butter . One tiny tiny thing a country like Ireland does better, and it takes 5 minutes for an American to show up
“Yeah. Well….fuckin……butter ….we got butter, it’s great butter …i can’t tell the diference……and like…. Fuckin yurop……it’s like , all smug………and anyway our beer is best”.”
The possibility that other people have nice things, triggers them so hard.
You misunderstood the situation. Imagine someone flew to Finland had a can of kalakukko then went off for the rest of their life that all of the EU has dog shit food and is a cultural hellhole.
Exactly. People aren’t taking issue with the idea that their country’s product compares poorly to another country’s product, it’s that some random person’s random encounters are enough to make that judgement. Sweeping generalizations very often do more harm than good.
Lololol we have EU style butter. It’s in every supermarket. It’s two different tools. Not my problem heathens don’t know how to cook or haven’t actually experienced food outside your Internet bubble.
What’s also amusing is how people sometimes understandably, but mistakenly, display the out-group homogeniety bias in their thinking and believe they’re scoring a win in some national pride pissing contest they started themselves
Like I said, triggered.
As a cooking ingredient, maybe, but if you’re using butter on toast, bread, etc. then Irish/French/British butter is clearly better.
Also, the superiority of European chocolate isn’t to do with the cocoa content or the sweetness - it’s just creamier and has a smoother texture.
I’ll agree with you on the beer, though.
The difference is subtle and not noticeable to most people. You’ll do better in your testing and get better results switching to salted butter for things like toast. The difference just isn’t that big.
- No it’s not.
- I already use salted butter for toast – American is still worse.
- Yes it is.
American here - Irish/French butter is the clear winner for buttered bread.
Unfortunately found out I can’t eat anything with gluten, and rice based bread and other similar garbage doesn’t absorb properly, so it’s not longer something I get to enjoy.
Still. Irish butter is my personal preferred.
I’ll agree with you on the beer, though.
Funnily enough, when I visited the US, it was the beer that was utter shit, but otherwise I really liked the food in most places I visited.
Okay I had one or two good beers too, but I actually like lagers and pilsners (Urquell being my favourite), but the Yuengling that a local acquainteance really wanted me to try, felt disgusting.
Oh, don’t get me wrong - Budweiser/Coors/Michelob etc. are all awful. However, most US states have good local breweries and craft beers. Lagers are generally not as popular as IPAs, but you can still get good ones. Admittedly, this varies quite a bit depending on where you are in the US.
Given the number of Americans who have had their tastebuds destroyed by covid, I can understand your palate.
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Funny enough, I also grew up on super processed chocolate, and I thought I just didn’t like chocolate that much, until I got some real chocolate when I was a teen.
God, Hershey’s tastes like pain and sadness.
I think you meant wax. Hersheys tastes like wax.
Nah man, I’ve eaten those wax candies with the goo inside, they’re awful, but Hershey’s is several steps below.
ok this conversation was about butter if you fucking come at Hershey’s imma throw hands (I dont like cadburry’s but I dont try to make people feel bad about it!!) lindt is pretty dope. for a second I thought I liked ritter sport but realized nope. I understand hershey’s isnt for everyone and if you dont grow up with it you may not think much of it. however, because I detect you are a gentleman and are wise of the ways of the world: I implore you to try Hershey’s nuggets w/ almonds, hershey’s w/ almonds or even a Mr. Goodbar (which is just hershey’s w/ peanuts).
I think I’ll just stick to any chocolate that isn’t Hershey’s.
It’s got that vomit aftertaste
Butyric Acid
That’s the rat faeces!
In an upper middle class european family I often ate swiss chocolate and once my dad went to the us and bought some hersheys for us to taste. / It was like 2 girls one cup in my mouth for my refined european taste buds /s
Kerrygold 🥰
Yep. If you know, you know.
How the fuck do you spread it?
Contrary to popular belief in the US, butter does not require refrigeration. Just needs a covered dish.
Only salted butter, as far as I know. The salt keeps it preserved. Unsalted needs to be either used promptly or refrigerated I’m pretty sure?
What’s the hottest it gets where you live in the summer?
'Murica, land of air conditioning (regular 90f+ weather).
I don’t personally keep butter out like that as I do not own a toaster. Or a dining table. Or air conditioning to adequately handle hotter than 90f (cheap landlord at apartment complex plus upper floor apartment).
Huh … til
Slice off a pad and pop it on a plate, then microwave it a little.
I don’t know if that’s how you’re supposed to do it, but it sure as hell works.
What kind of high class bs … lol
I recommend a butter keeper / butter pot to on the counter. They’re designed to use water to seal the air out. Butter will keep for a week or two without any quality issues if you exchange the water in the butter pot daily.
Though these are an inverted system, so if your living space is consistently warm enough to melt the butter, it may not be a great solution.
Do not put it in the fridge… keep it a room temperature.
I think with most butter you’re supposed to mash it with the side of the knife to get it smooth and squishy so it spreads well.
I definitely recommend going to the Butter Museum in Cork which is essentially a Kerrygold museum.
You don’t think it’s gonna make a difference, but once you eat a stick of it, you’ll know.
I recommend making Hollandaise sauce to really emphasize the butter!
Trying to figure out if this is a bit or truly worth the hype. I was about to go shopping tomorrow. Gonna make scones, so I need butter.
It’s truth. Expensive truth, but worth it when you have the money
Others already replied - but it’s not a bit. Kerrygold butter is of a noticeably higher quality. I can’t go back.
(I’m not sure I would put Hollandaise on (sweet) scones, so I’m hoping I didn’t misread and you were just asking whether Kerrygold was worth it haha)
“If people think Kerrygold is this good, maybe I should use it when making my scones instead of Falfurrias,” thought Nico de Gallo.
It’s worth it. Make sure you have everything you need, including tools, utensils, and dishes, before you start though. It comes together very fast and you will not have a spare second to go grab something.
Add a dash of cayenne if the recipe doesn’t include it, otherwise I find the creaminess coats the palate too much and makes it taste too samey.
they’re making scones, not hollandaise sauce
Correct. Lol
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You eat it by the stick?
This guy acting like he doesn’t butter snack
Please stop. Us Americans are fat enough…
Only peanut butter
If you want to make Homer’s patented out of this world moon waffles you do.
My aunt in Yorkshire always used to say “butter makes everything better, including margarine”
I mean, butter is nice, but eating it by the stick? I scrape some onto bread, or cut off a small slice to fry something in, or maybe mix it into a cake.
But eating a stick of butter?
Well you have to deep fry it first.
Butter from tropical South Pacific countries is high in salt. It help with replenishing minerals your body loses due to sweating.
So is butter from Brittany.
It would keep better with the heat too
Very true. It does take a while to become accustomed to the taste.
Lemmy should celebrate French-Irish butter day. What do yo say? Your community or ours?
There is excellent butter in the United States. Even some of the most sought after butter in the world by top chefs. Animal Farm Creamery butter to name only one.
If you’re buying crap butter from the grocery store, you’re going to get what you pay for. That is true almost everywhere.
Animal Farm Creamery butter
Equal to French butter. Maybe even more equal.
Dude, it’s just butter, wtf.
LOL I love the avalanche of firebird with literally zero context. Y’all are friggin weird.
The secret is the west coasts.
The french guy was talking about butter from Bretagne. West coast Irish butter is amazing. West coast Scottish butter is amazing.
Know why? Because it absolutely pisses down with rain almost every fucking day in west coast Atlantic areas, the grass grows like triffids and the cows eat themselves silly
Quite simple
I choose to believe it’s their mutual hatred of England that makes their butter taste good.
I shall be adopting “like triffids” into my everyday vernacular from now on.
what on earth is a triffid?!
Day of the Triffids a well known book.
(Heavy influence on 28 days later)
It’s a fictional plant that grows fast
Irish butter is good in the summer. The Irish butter they sell in winter usually has been frozen stuff from the summer production.
Swiss butter FTW!
A good example why nationalism and pride about it makes no sense. Most people had no choice in where they are from, and had no influence on something like this. Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.
This is why it gets toxic and dangerous easily. We see similar issues with fans of sports teams, even though the fan has literally nothing to do with the team.
Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.
what
When someone says “I’ve been sober for a year” and a commenter says “I’m proud of you, OP”, is that narcissistic? Pride in this sense is a sense of community accomplishment. As a social species, we share in the achievements of others as necessarily related to our own - it’s a form of creating bonds and encouraging behavior. Whether you dislike the idea of nations or not, having pride in something you didn’t influence and had no choice in is perfectly normal and not at all narcissistic.
Not the same. A more apt version using your comparison would be someone saying ‘I’ve been sober for a year!’ and the other person (who still drinks, but perhaps cheered them on now and again from the sidelines) says either ‘You mean we’ve been sober for a year!’ or ‘Yes, and it’s all thanks to me!’ - never mind they didn’t actively step in to help, or try to go dry themselves.
What the complaint you quoted was objecting to are people claiming full part of something they had no control over and no (or not much) involvement in, just to make themselves feel more important.
Yes we as a social species like to share in accomplishments, and that’s fine! But there is a line, that unfortunately gets crossed quite a lot, where people start to feel that they themselves were involved in the accomplishments of others, and that’s not so good. To paraphrase an above poster, we didn’t win the Super Bowl.
And also, some things people take ‘group pride’ in aren’t accomplishments at all. Being born in a specific place, for instance, or having a specific skin color. Or even just trying to share credit with every inventor/creator/whatever of the same gender. It does all tie back to our instinctive tribalism, but that doesn’t make it a good thing.
Not the same. A more apt version using your comparison would be someone saying ‘I’ve been sober for a year!’ and the other person (who still drinks, but perhaps cheered them on now and again from the sidelines) says either ‘You mean we’ve been sober for a year!’ or ‘Yes, and it’s all thanks to me!’ - never mind they didn’t actively step in to help, or try to go dry themselves.
That’s literally not the claim being made by these people in the OP taking pride in their community’s accomplishments though.
When someone says “I’ve been sober for a year” and a commenter says “I’m proud of you, OP”, is that narcissistic?
No, it’s an instance where what people say is not what they feel: The second doesn’t comment on their own pride, but is expressing something like admiration. At the most, pride in being friends with such a fine chap who would manage to be sober for a year.
Mostly, though, it’s just a fixed phrase of encouragement and praise, unrelated to the actual words used. The fixed phrase could be “cowabunga!” and it’d mean the same.
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its just an ancient tribal instinct. oh, you’re from the squirrel bones tribe? pssh, your berry bushes are shit. rat skull tribe have best berry bushes, and we have stream. squirrel bones tribe have no stream and bad berry bushes
Your sportsball team is shit. WE smashed you!
We!?! Really bob? Pretty sure you passed out and pissed yourself that night…
Also in this case it’s kind of a great example of how positive nationalism and pride quickly turns negative. The US has more dairy farmland than any other country, im sure there is plenty of fancy boutique butter. It’s a pretty weak premise, almost certainly drawn completely from negative stereotypes.
reminds me of JP Sartre: by disparaging the jews, the anti-semite instantly puts himself into a superior group without having to actually do anything.
Nationalism works the same way. “I belong to THIS socially constructed group! We do such great things!” as if they built the community from the ground up and weren’t just thrown into a world with systems already in place independent of them that helped produce the things they’re proud of…
Like sure community is a thing but at a certain point doesn’t it get quite arbitrary what you take credit for? and doesn’t that also mean we have to take credit for all the bad things too? every Palestinian would become Hamas and every American a drone pilot. those are precisely the reasons I am not patriotic and i dont find “shut up, frog” jokes funny. “just” tribalism? “just” a wee cheeky bit o fash in the mornin?
speciesism >> nationalism
This is about butter, not nations. The nations are merely places in which the butter resides.
Literally about a nation. Literally says national pride.
This, sir, was probably a joke.
The Irishman misunderstands
That French guy was just trying to butter them up.
Butter from Normandy in particular.
With salt! The “demi-sel” makes any toast even better.
I was just about to say, IMHO of course, that French butter, in general, is not as good as Irish. However regional productions, like the highest quality creameries from Normandy are ever bit as good as the best Irish butter.
