A Republican state senator has called for “civil war” if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.
George Lang, an Ohio politician, made the comment as he introduced JD Vance at his first solo campaign event since becoming Trump’s running mate.
After taking to the stage fist-raised and shouting Trump’s post-shooting battle cry “Fight! Fight!”, Mr Lang warned of an existential threat facing Americans. He declared in front of a large, heated crowd in Ohio: “We are in the fight for the soul of our nation… for our kids, for our grandkids, it is a fight we can never imagine.
“I believe wholeheartedly, Donald Trump and Butler County’s JD Vance are the last chance to save our country. Politically, I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country.”
Odds are there will be no real civil war. The assault on the capitol only worked because Trump was in power letting it happen, and even then they didn’t get too far. A lot of those assholes went to prison.
Go vote and let them attack the US gov.
Believe people when they tell you who they are
I believe them and that’s why I want to have them start a civil war. It’s the best way to purge these elements and it won’t take days to do so, more like minutes.
God… them doing it again and thinking Trump will just pardon them again and the cops will “Stand down”…
That would…
People are too comfortable to have a civil war. People will rebel when they’re hungry, jobless, and have zero prospect for the future.
It’s gonna have to get a lot worse before then if a war were to happen.
things were going pretty well in 1860, until states decided the constitution didn’t apply to them, which is likely the same scenario this time if anything were to happen.
Things were not going well in 1860 for black people.
Also, the north couldn’t compete economically with the south because the south had all the free labor and longer growing season.
It was the other way, the south couldn’t compete economically with the north. the north had the advantage of manufacturing superiority. The south depended on cotton exports, and their biggest buyers were…the north… They betted on being able to keep exporting to the UK, but the Union had strong navy blackades preventing easy way to export, and the UK had their new india territories to source cotton, so it wasn’t worth it for the UK to support the rebellious americans.
Those blockades came in 1861, but for decades prior, the white people in the south prospered off of their free labor. The south was wealthy and its economy was rapidly growing. That all went to shit for them when as you said the UK stopped buying their cotton.
so… It was a good time, until they fucked themselves by being traitorous bastards?
Yea pretty much… a good time for the white men of property at least.
It was my understanding that the North was economically surpassing the South leading up to the Civil War as they embraced technological advancements in transportation, manufacturing, and agriculture.
They were still struggling to compete with the free labor of the south if I am not mistaken.
A lot of those assholes went to prison.
Except one particular asshole that is still running for Presidency.
Not to make light, but one does not simply “start a civil war”. A civil war needs armies and territory. It is just terrorism without those.
It’ll start in FL. FL is full of militias.
I think that is what modern civil war in america would be, the country is too split for some kind of army situation. The urban-rural divide makes it rather strange.
Oh the union will and does have an army…don’t know what the other side will do though
Why do you think all the soldiers would go to one side?
The oath they swore at MEPS, and if they did not take that seriously, I say have fun losing.
So you are claiming that if republican types would feel strongly enough to split from the country, and the military (which is a majority republican) would be willing to kill people with the same ideology because they did an oath long ago? And you actually think there would be a winner in a civil war?
The military isn’t just a bunch of Trump loving extremists. It’s just as divided as the rest of the population, but they also are very strict about upholding the constitution and democracy. If people of their same ideology threatened the United States’ peace and democracy, most active duty members would likely be willing to fight against them
You are making the assumption that they would agree with you poltically and that the GOP is the one that would be breaking the rules and being the cause of the peace being disturbed. Which side wants a revolution? Whos revoultuion is currently happening?
Do we actually know the military is majority Republican now?
(I grew up hearing that, but have since learned a lot of repeated things from childhood was a lie.)
Small sample size, but there’s one pro-Trump civil war if no Trump guy I have actually seen in person, and he only recently left the military. So yes, I imagine there would be at least some military defectors.
Though I think the logistics would be more complicated in defecting, since thanks to constant instant communication and trivial travel, state identity is far more diluted than it was in the 19th century. Particularly in the military where they move members around like crazy. So any given military unit is unlikely to be all-in on civil war across the board, and hopefully less likely to defect if it means turning on their own unit.
A bit outdated, but according to a poll in 2020 it was pretty much a reflection of the larger population
Put him out front so he can get the first shot
Never happen. He’s a fortunate son.
Shouldve learned to keep his head down and mouth shut then
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Enough is enough. Shit like this is putting us on a path for another insurrection.
Here is a sample letter to provide George Lang, especially if you are an OH resident. George Lang contact form
subject: “Call for Resignation Due to Undemocratic Remarks”
Dear Senator Lang,
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding your recent comments about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. Your statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As a concerned citizen, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to your words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. Your statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of your comments, I call on you to resign from your position as a United States Senator. The responsibilities of your office require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. Your recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action you can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of your words and to take responsibility for them by resigning your seat.
Sincerely,
[Your First Name]
Additionally i encourage looking up your Senators and contacting them as well:
Subject: “Urgent: Call to Denounce Undemocratic Rhetoric and Advocate for Resignation”
Dear Senator [Senator’s Name],
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding recent comments made by Senator George Lang about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. His statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As your constituent, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to such words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. His statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of these comments, I call on you to take a stand against such rhetoric. I urge you to publicly denounce these remarks and advocate for Senator Lang’s resignation from his position. The responsibilities of a United States Senator require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. His recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action he can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of these words and to take a firm stand for democracy.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and to seeing our representatives uphold the values that make our country strong.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
Make sure to send to both senators, regardless of their party.
I promise you they don’t read this shit and either have free volunteering moronic and willing slave laborers read this or pay a few interns minimum wage to read all this shit and send back pre-written canned replies.
Sending this is likely a complete waste of fucking time. I wouldn’t know for sure, but I’m willing to bet money on it.
So they’re moving on to this to scare people from voting because they know they’re absolutely fucked right now. Fuck that nonsense, VOTE. Volunteer to help give rides to people that otherwise wouldn’t be able to vote.
Honestly, at this point I’m getting tired of them saying it all the time.
Do it.
It would not go the way they think it would go, and the confederate/nazi/MAGA party would be swiftly defeated within days/hours. They do not have the support they think they have, most Americans don’t let politics run their lives and Fox poison their brains and a civil war would actually wake those Americans up to the seriousness of what’s going on right now.
At the end of the day, starting a whole-ass war because some people get to have a better life than the bible says they should just isn’t a good cause. It sucks that a lot of people think otherwise.
Agreed. Do it.
Why would they want to lose immediately after losing…I mean, I don’t want to kink-shame, but I don’t see the logic…
but you lost the last one
I feel like they didn’t see the movie…
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Don’t the remember what happened the last time they tried a little civil war?
2% of the population died.
“…it is a fight we can never imagine.”
What does that even mean?
The temperature is definitely rising. I’d be lying if I said I’d be cool with Republicans succeeding at keeping Harris (or whoever the Dem pick is) off the ballots in any state - we have a questionable democracy right now… we’d definitely not have a democracy then.
They kept Lincoln of the ticket in some southern states.
Your definition of democracy seems to hinge on your own whims.
Your desperation to invalidate democracy based on a switching of candidates shows two things… 1 shit happens… not too different as the decades pass, and 2 you don’t understand the meaning of “democracy” and are desperate to just talk shit…
Dems switching candidates doesn’t invalidate democracy it just shows how desperate you are to discount it…
Way to completely miss what he said there. He said “with republicans SUCCEEDING AT KEEPING HARRIS OFF OF THE BALLOTS”. How the fuck does this drivel have so many upvotes when it completely misses the argument.
Good last line there
What? I’m talking about Republicans suing to keep a democrat off the ticket - that’s a much different ball game than the convention. I want an open process in both arenas without tampering.
There is a party of people that will argue that we are not a democracy or never were.
And there is a majority of Americans ready to tell those dumb nerds to shut up with their boring nonsense
But since they’ve got a broken electoral system and the billionaires on their side it could go either way
And those same mendacious, disingenuous fuck-knuckles get pseudo-patriotism boners when Trump whips out the “I took a bullet for democracy” line, without an ounce of shame or even self-awareness.
From. From democracy.
I assure you, the people who are aware of the US’s history and don’t recognize it as a democracy (or more specifically, recognize it as a bourgeoisie democracy), are not patriotic or pro-trump.
A simple test for who the US government represents: Does it’s actions favor the people or the bourgeoisie?
It was founded as a democracy for some. That’s what they want to go back to.
If we have another civil war, we can learn from our biggest mistake too.
Finish Reconstruction.
We can accept their secession, conquer them, and then keep them as territories. During that time, we can enact policy that helps all Americans. Restore fairness standards in news reporting, wipe out the KKK, pass a voter’s bill of rights, tax churches equally, replace FPTP with IRV, and abolish the electoral college.
If we don’t address the brainwashing, it’ll happen a third time too. They can have a little bit of authoritarianism if they want it so much.
If we have another civil war, we can learn from our biggest mistake too.
Finish Reconstruction.
Obligatory - FUCK ANDREW JOHNSON.
Problem this time is, it isn’t quite as clear cut geographically. Even in red states like Georgia, you have MILLIONS of Democrats.
Haha that would be wild!
