I was an iOS supporter until iphone 5 then I discovered the beauty and freedom of Android.

To this day with Samsung s22+

But currently I am a bit tired, there is no android phone that I am passionate about, oneplus has given me nothing but problems, Samsung with exynos is a disaster (not to mention the new blockages at sideload and the green stripes on the display), I don’t even want to go near all the other Chinese brands, and Nothing is not what it promised to be.

I want to go back to iOS but there are a few things holding me back:

  • how can sideload be managed on iOS? Are there modified apps like youtube, reddit?

  • I follow a lot of NSFW channels on telegram, discord and reddit itself, are there any problems on iOS? are there ways around this? (my girlfriend has iOS, and every time I want to forward an nsfw gif she doesn’t see it)

  • surf the sea, is it complex on ios? Especially in terms of gaming?

TBH only yt, nsfw and modded apk keep me on android. Thanks a lot in advance

  • Brickfrog
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    249 months ago

    iOS is way too locked down. Granted, it depends on what you do and what you need, but since you’re asking in this community yeah… not the best choice.

    Honestly just get a Android phone that’s just pure Android OS and nothing else, you don’t have to deal with the added junk that Samsung or whoever want to add on top of the OS. e.g. Google Pixel is quite excellent for this. And even still, if you end up wanting a different OS try installing GrapheneOS & see how it goes.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      49 months ago

      I really want to jump on Pixel, because, again I hate how iOS is locked for everything. but I hate in the same way that G2 seems to overheat. I didn’t know grapheneOS this is interesting…

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        I’ve been using two different (refurbished) Pixel phones with CalyxOS for over 3 years now. It is a really great experience :) And the photos the phones can take are great, too!

      • @[email protected]
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        Pixel phone with GrapheneOS, it’s an unbeatable solution. Rock solid, reliable, safe & secure and private. A lot of people mentioned Pixel 8 gen to be really with very long-term support (about 7 years if I not mistaken), so that’s really worthy!

        Edit: typo

  • @[email protected]
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    49 months ago

    Sideloading is quite bad. If you’re in the EU, I know you can use AltStore PAL, which costs money (~€1.50 a year), but all you’ll be getting is emulators, virtual machines, clipboard managers, and torrent clients.

    There is another method for sideloading that works anywhere and lets you download modified apps, but it is very limited, tedious, and probably insecure. I’ve done it, it’s not worth it. Better to stay on android or use a browser with adblock or something.

    I don’t think iOS has any specific limits to do with NSFW stuff, I’ve never heard of anything anyways.

    Pirating games is probably not going to be worth it either since you have to sideload apps with the second method.

    Other types of piracy are probably fine. If you have AltStore PAL you can get a torrent client and an emulator.

  • @[email protected]
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    39 months ago
    • For nsfw I use Quix but its shareware
    • For youtube I use Yattee
    • I don’t use reddit since some of us moved to lemmy
    • For gaming I use RetroArch
    • I don’t know how are things with sideloading
  • fmstrat
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    169 months ago

    Long time Samsung user. Get a Pixel 8. Install Obtainium. Use it to install Neo Launcher and 99% of the apps you probably use. Or just switch to GrapheneOS. You will be happy again.

    I also found filly changing my layout helps. My daily calendar, task list, and clock are the only things on my first home screen.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      29 months ago

      Obtainium

      Didn’t know about obtenium. I think pixel 8 seems the only good choice also if it’s pricey and I’m afraid that is a lot smaller than the s22+ that I think is a right size

      • fmstrat
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        29 months ago

        Yea, they have gotten pricey. I ended up going down in phone size instead of getting the bigger 8, really like being able to reach all the way across the phone again. Using a tablet for reading things probably made a difference here, though.

        • The Cuuuuube
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          19 months ago

          OH! Got it! Thank you! I was legitimately just like “is this new lingo I don’t know”

          • fmstrat
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            Yes, it’s new lingo, that’s what I was using. Mmmhmm. You should too… Totally…

  • @[email protected]
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    Samsung is garbage IMO, and OnePlus has been getting worse for years. Pixels offer the smoothest experience. Nothing phones are really nice too.

    Wdym about the gifs? there should be nothing stopping you from sending those on any device.

    Sideloading is possible, but there’s more hoops to jump through than on Android. Plus an overall smaller amount of apps available to sideload.

    Piracy depends on what you’re pirating. TV/Movie wise you’ll be fine, as well as ROMs for the few emulators iOS has (relative to android). I doubt you’ll have any luck with apps or mobile games.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      9 months ago

      Wdym about the gifs? there should be nothing stopping you from sending those on any device.

      I forward gif from channel that maybe are marked as NSFW, I know that also some content creator makes 2 channel on telegram because if they are marked as NSFW are not shown on ios anymore.

      Pixel are really expensive and I read that the 7 pro gets really hot, and I don’t like it, while the 8 it’s a bit small after the s22+

      • youmaynotknow
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        69 months ago

        Dude, Pixels of any generation compared to iPhone are actually cheap. iPhone are the most expensive overrated phones ever made.

      • @[email protected]
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        49 months ago

        Like the other guy said, used/refurbished pixels are pretty good deals. The overheating is a bit overblown, yes some people get a bad device but you can just return it if it’s really bad. My experience with the pixel 7/ 7 pro is that it’s very smooth and don’t notice any overheating even in hot climate, and Android 14 and also the upcoming 15 updates helps with heat and battery significantly.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          29 months ago

          I’m really afraid of this, I’ve seen a video of a pixel 7 pro that stop a videocall on telegram for the overheating issue. I just can stand this, because I sometimes travel and I want to take picture and long long videos…

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            There are mountains of complaints in the googlepixel sub about the terrible tensor chip. Not sure why so many here are ignoring the inefficiency and overheating. The modem is also really bad

        • @[email protected]OP
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          29 months ago

          As I said to someone, pixel 7 is affordable for me, but I’m afraid of the overheat, the G2 seems really terrible soc

  • @[email protected]
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    139 months ago

    First I would say best Android right now, is a pixel with custom ROM installed.

    Sidload: there exists modified apps for iPhone. To install them you have 3 options (if not in EU) you can sideload using your personal free apple dev account, there you are limited to 3 different apps and you have to reinstall them every 7 days to keep them working, if you pay apple 100$ a year, you can upgrade to a “real” apple dev account without the limitations. Easiest way to self sign apps using above methods would be AltStore application. The third way is Sideloading using a service, that uses enterprise certificates to distribute such apps, those services are either expensive (e.g. BuildStore) or they inject ads into the apps you sideload (sorry, you have to “google” yourself).

    I had no issues with NSFW on Reddit, Lemmy and discord yet, 🤔 for discord I don’t know if it changed since I used it. NSFW on telegram is blocked in the iOS app, but the webApp of telegram can be added to the homescreen and then it feels like an App

    I use the sea via the self hosted arrr apps and have added the webUI of each to my homescreen, alternatively you can control your arrr apps using LunaSea app. For streaming, I use plex and jellyfin which both work great on iOS

    For youtube, there were some modded apps, but I just went with premium via India, because that was more convenient.

    I block ads on my phone by routing my internet through my server running adGuard and on device I use 1blocker as backup (since i payed for lifetime long time ago)

  • @[email protected]
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    309 months ago

    there is no android phone that I am passionate about,

    Not what you asked for:

    A phone is a tool which should enable you to do stuff. Be passionate about friends, hobbies, art, not a piece of plastic.

    Being forced to use iOS (work phone) and Android (Samsung, also work), both suck IMHO but Android sucks less.

    My next Android will be a Pixel, as others suggested custom roms are the way to go, but even vanilla Android is more functional/open/practical for my needs than iOS.

    I would never buy Apples shit with my own money: Dumped down, locked down and in the end you are renting a device from Apple to pay fees for their Appstore and Cloud offerings and vendor lock in. No thanks.

    • prole
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      I will add that, after getting my first Pixel as my previous phone, I’ve found the Google vanilla Android experience is better than Android on other carriers that fill the phone with bloat that you can’t get rid of without rooting.

  • @[email protected]
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    39 months ago

    The telegram thing is caused by telegram itself

    Login with a pc and disable safety filters for your account and you’ll be fine

    iirc the play store version of telegram is the same as the App Store version, but on android maybe you downloaded it directly from the telegram website (?)

    Anyway, safety filter can be disabled

  • @[email protected]
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    139 months ago

    iOS is probably the most locked down option you can pick. The EU even told Malus to open it up and Malus tried to fuck around. Now they might be in for some monetary justice, but that might take a year or two. Emulation was even only recently allowed, but only of old shit like Windows XP.

    Android is still the most open, mainstream, phone OS out there. Get yourself a phone that can run a ROM like LineageOS, eOS, FairPhone or (if you want to give Google more money for surveillance) a Pixel to put GrapheneOS on it (easy process, you just need a browser and USB-C cable). That’ll get you more freedom to keep the phone alive longer and optionally become more private (if you can learn to live without Google).

    To save money, you don’t even need to buy a new one. Get a refurbished phone. They are often 100-200€ cheaper than new phones and are sometimes as good as new.

    iOS will lock you in, give you less options, and cost you loads to boot.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    • holgersson
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      Chinese companies steal your data

      Try Pixel

      lol

      Putting GrapheneOS on the Pixel is good advice though

      • @[email protected]
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        69 months ago

        Pixels are arguably the most private android since you only get Google tracking. With other androids you get Google tracking on top of all the other tracking

            • @[email protected]
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              19 months ago

              You can basically disable most Google tracking though a good DNS that blocks that traffic.

              So only most but not all. Therefore it’s not private if there’s any tracking. Thus a de-googled version is the only option.

                • @[email protected]
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                  19 months ago

                  You won’t get rid of google tracking you on Youtube or Gmail,

                  For gmail that’s true (one should use something else anyhow). For youtube you can use an alternative frontend like NewPipe to avoid tracking.

                  If you care about privacy you should use a trustworthy paid email. They even aren’t that expensive. You can get them as low as 1 € / month.

            • @[email protected]
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              19 months ago

              Have you checked the source code that they actually respect private dns setting for their tracking? Or otherwise verified that no traffic goes to google tracking servers?

  • prince of space
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    29 months ago

    Sideloading apps on iOS has gotten a lot easier. I use sideloadly. It has to connect to your computer (wirelessly) once a week but does this automatically in the background. I’m still running Apollo, the best Reddit iOS app this way.

    I have YT premium through Sri Lanka for $3/mo. Sponsorblock works in safari.

    ROM apps like delta are in the App Store now. I have no idea about phone gaming otherwise.

    Never ran into any content filtering.

    If your gf uses iOS try it out there first and see how you like it.

    New iPhones release on a pretty strict schedule each September so even if you don’t want the new model best to wait for older ones to be discounted.

  • hendrik
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    19 months ago

    Uuh. I wouldn’t do it. As far as I know iOS is still pretty locked down and that won’t change.