Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.

But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.

“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.

Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”

    • @stoned_ape@lemmy.world
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      I do outside sales in Ohio and I’m on the road a lot

      The amount of people who have Trump / Pence signs and have put white tape over the P and E to make a V and A is … Surreal. Like why do you still have signs from an election 8 years ago? Their house is probably full of cats and hoard and bugs. Can’t wait to get updated signs?

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    hilarious that vance wrote an entire book blaming poor mountain people for causing their own problems and not bootstraps-ing themselves out of despair (like he did, naturally), and is now saying that biden’s america is 100% to blame for those exact same problems

    not to mention all the gigabytes of trash he’s talked about trump, whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory

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      whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory

      😆 It’s only 0600 here. I’m gonna call it a day after reading that so that I can end on a high note.

  • @RubyRhod@lemm.ee
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    Really?

    Cause “Some Republicans…” = Bill o’-fucking-Reillys move.

    “Some say… {Insert whatever the fuck}”

    I don’t buy it.

    Trump: streams child pornography.

    Headline: “RNC secures NAMBLA endorsement!”

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    Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.

    Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.

    “President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.

    Phony, creepy, terrifying.

    And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn’t get shit on. Just saying. It’s your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.

    • @ganksy@lemmy.world
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      There must be a correlation with how hard campaigns double down and how close they are to actually reversing course.

      • Promethiel
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        There is. The more they stumble, the more they are questioned. The answers to the question cannot be anything but utmost certainty because “maybe” is simply not a message that sways anyone.

        Pretty answers don’t change reality though, so the stumbles continue or even increase leading to more questions and the doubling down. You just can’t do anything else unless you’re ready to commit to another answer.

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        Careful - you’re assigning reason, or at least logic, to the party of pizzagate, trump, a stupid failed coup, and drinking bleach.

        History teaches us this is where logic and reason come to die.

  • @Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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    "Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”

    — Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN

    Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.

        • @pyre@lemmy.world
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          oh… yeah; just never heard conversion therapy described as “lightning powers”…

      • @Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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        There were a lot of memes involving mike pence having lightning powers, and often fighting anything gay with electricity. IIRC this all came from him allegedly advocating for electroshock therapy as a method of conversion therapy (which snopes said is false, and that’s as much research as I’m putting into a tangent on meme history)

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    Let’s not jump to conclusions until we get the couche’s side of the story.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    I’m glad he did, he’s the best fucking player on the Left’s team.

  • @Sarothazrom@lemmy.world
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    Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.

    “If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would’ve won!” -conservatives in five months

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      No I think Trump and team figured they had this in the bag and no need to pick anyone else that could appeal to the normies. They are all in on MAGA and gods willing it explodes in their faves

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      Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.

      He was the bag man for Cryptobros. Trump puts him on the ticket and the money flows into the Trump campaign.

      Now it’s looking like a raw deal, as Trump has to spend all that new money defending his hideous little troll of a VP.

      “If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would’ve won!” -conservatives in five months

      Missed a perfectly good opportunity to run a horny VP like Kristi Noem or Laura Boebert or Hope Hicks.

      Still would have lost, but at least we wouldn’t need Vance’s mug all over the TV.

    • @ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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      When Trump loses, what’s the worse that can happen to JD Vance?

      It’s not like Trump is going to send a mob to kill his vice president running mate. Oh wait.

    • @razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world
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      Vance brings no new votes to the table. He is really just there because Peter Thiel agreed to donate to the campaign if Trump made him VP. When Biden was still in, the GOP believed that the election was as good as won so they didn’t believe they need to appeal to anyone else. Now that Kamala is running, the initial reaction and polling is showing that this race isn’t going to be easy for the GOP and Vance looks like a shitty pick.

      • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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        I must say that after many grueling and sometimes flat out boring and repetitive episodes, the USA show sure surprised us with this new twist.

        I love it!

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      Don’t worry, the qons will always find a cop-out. This is the bunch that were suddenly full of “independents” who never even heard of this W guy after Iraq was so obviously a gigantic clusterfuck and who never even heard of this Romney guy after he got spanked by a Blah guy.

      No, these people were suddenly teabaggers that were deep into this “tea party” that never was a thing before being made a thing by Faux and friends. Also, don’t call them “teabaggers”, they never, ever used that term for themselves (and don’t go looking around for any proof of this or anything. Just believe the teabaggers, er, I mean the “tea party members” of this so-called truth).

    • @Zetta@mander.xyz
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      It’s amusing you think Republicans will do anything but say the election was stolen by the left.

      • GladiusB
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        Yea. There’s a word for that. It’s called losing.

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        Yeah, it’s actually not possible for me to imagine Republicans losing the presidency again without claiming fraud. Even if saying that directly stops playing as well, they will just move onto softer language about it. Like when they went from being directly racist to claiming all problems are certain immigrants’ fault.

        They will “just ask questions” about particular states’ results. I don’t think we will come back from that. It may even bleed over to Democrats saying it eventually, just because it’s so established in the zeitgeist that it’s possible, some lesser thinking Dems may run with it.

        Notice how none of them hesitate to do this shit now. It’s because they’ve started to internalize that democracy is bad because it doesn’t give their party the advantages they feel entitled to.

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      And JD Vance has earned all the hate MAGA is going to send his way. Bending the knee may give short term gain, but it will ultimately ruin your life and legacy, like a whole list of these lifelong Republicans. The Lindsay Graham’s and Ted Cruz’s who took Trump’s abuse and just cowered like the pathetic people they are.

      MAGA will be in the history books beside the confederates as the traitor party.

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      811 months ago

      As long as they lose I’m not sure I care who they blame it on.

    • finley
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      Bold of you to assume they’re ever going to admit having lost. How else will they rationalize another attempted coup?

  • @ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca
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    The rest of the world agrees. Funny how even the broken clock that is the current Republican party is right every now and then.

  • Sparkles
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    I really think the won’t be happy with anyone for too long. That’s the problem with a cult.

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      Any second-in-command that was actually popular would be a threat to Trump, so that cannot be tolerated. He’s got to find an uncharismatic sycophant smart enough to help him purge enemies, yet dumb enough to be incapable of plotting against him himself.

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    If you were an extreme project 2025 republican, Vance would have been the perfect candidate assuming that 1. The democrats would throw the election by running Biden with failing health. And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.

    I legitimately can’t think of another reason why they would have picked him. The Trump campaign and project 2025 were counting on both those facts being true.

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      It’s actually sadder. Trump doesn’t want a VP that can claim any credit for his electoral victory. If he picked anyone that people will say “strengthened him”, he’d hate that.

      Pride goeth before the fall.

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        He also just wants a yes man, he REALLY didn’t like that Pence found his conscience while he was cleaning up after the election and didn’t go along with “the election was stolen and thus Donald Trump is still president”. Vance has no political compass - he has a weathervane that points towards whatever he thinks will get him power, so that’s perfect.

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      And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.

      Yeah, but donnie is/was a project 2025 guy. Was he on board with that aspect of things? With his diet/exercise plan, maybe he is? 🤣

    • GratefullyGodless
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      711 months ago

      Wow! I never thought I would see those words ever written about Eric Trump. The sad part is that it’s true.

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        211 months ago

        You know how some things are trashy when the poor do them, but accepted when the rich do them? Eric Trump is proof that “drinking heavily while pregnant” is one of those things.

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    What would be really funny is if they changed jd vance after state deadlines and then their own attempts to block the Harris switch backfire