Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.

But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.

“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.

Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”

  • @[email protected]
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    11 year ago

    What would be really funny is if they changed jd vance after state deadlines and then their own attempts to block the Harris switch backfire

  • @[email protected]
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    321 year ago

    I love that there’s literally a video of Vance calling Trump a horrible person and they still picked him. Plus the whole couch-fucking thing. Good stuff.

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      21 year ago

      A meme in our last local election for governor was, “Mark Ronchetti Fucks Dogs. Bad for dogs, bad for New Mexico.”

      It was hugely successful. He was actively being cyber bullied on Twitter.

  • Sparkles
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    201 year ago

    I really think the won’t be happy with anyone for too long. That’s the problem with a cult.

    • @[email protected]
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      191 year ago

      Any second-in-command that was actually popular would be a threat to Trump, so that cannot be tolerated. He’s got to find an uncharismatic sycophant smart enough to help him purge enemies, yet dumb enough to be incapable of plotting against him himself.

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    211 year ago

    It’s also so fucking funny when Trump turns on someone. Can’t wait to see it happen with Vance

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    You know, Vance was picked on July 15, and Joe dropped out on July 21. Is it possible that the Dems intentionally held off on the news that Joe would be dropping out so that the Reps would fumble the bag this hard on their VP pick? Or is it more likely that Donald made the mistake of listening to his incredibly stupid sons when they told him to go with Vance?

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    471 year ago

    I mean, his last VP pick had lightning powers. This one fucks couches. That’s a hell of a downgrade.

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        51 year ago

        There were a lot of memes involving mike pence having lightning powers, and often fighting anything gay with electricity. IIRC this all came from him allegedly advocating for electroshock therapy as a method of conversion therapy (which snopes said is false, and that’s as much research as I’m putting into a tangent on meme history)

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    41 year ago

    The rest of the world agrees. Funny how even the broken clock that is the current Republican party is right every now and then.

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      311 year ago

      And for what he did to her favorite sofa. He even took off the plastic cover - just raw digging it with no protection.

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          101 year ago

          I’m up for combining them, but only if it’s in some sort of weird human-centipede situation.

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    "Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”

    — Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN

    Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.

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      21 year ago

      I like him better than I like Trump, but then I want them to lose. I would vote for the corpse of Richard Nixon before I considered voting for either of them.

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      Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.

      I’m not a betting man but I pretty much came to the comments to see if anyone else thought this too. “We” showed it’s “ok” to drop out this close to the election so I 100% believe they’re going to do the same with him and they can just have fox news say “the Democrats already did it so we’re doing it to get back at them!” because if there’s one thing maga loves more than beating up on (insert non cis/white/male people) it’s revenge.

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        41 year ago

        Even if they weren’t evil pieces of shit, they’d have every right to change the VP if they want.

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        71 year ago

        Actually makes me wonder whether they’ll try to pressure Trump to quit, for these same reasons.

        I mean, he definitely won’t quit, but they might try.

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    Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.

    Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.

    “President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.

    Phony, creepy, terrifying.

    And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn’t get shit on. Just saying. It’s your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.

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      81 year ago

      There must be a correlation with how hard campaigns double down and how close they are to actually reversing course.

      • Promethiel
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        There is. The more they stumble, the more they are questioned. The answers to the question cannot be anything but utmost certainty because “maybe” is simply not a message that sways anyone.

        Pretty answers don’t change reality though, so the stumbles continue or even increase leading to more questions and the doubling down. You just can’t do anything else unless you’re ready to commit to another answer.

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        Careful - you’re assigning reason, or at least logic, to the party of pizzagate, trump, a stupid failed coup, and drinking bleach.

        History teaches us this is where logic and reason come to die.

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    91 year ago

    The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November.

    I don’t understand how they thought Vance be better against Biden.

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      It’s not that he thought Vance was better. It’s that he thought Biden was running such a weak campaign that it didn’t matter who he picked as VP and he wanted the Thiel connection (and money) that Vance brings.

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        41 year ago

        Which is funny because the guy from the rust belt is a running mate with guy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth before it rusted.

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      21 year ago

      It’d be hilarious if a whisper campaign about couch-fuckin’ is what stopped fascism…

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      Again, there is ZERO evidence that JD Vance has reached earth-shattering orgasm in the loving embrace of a two-piece sectional, or that he has had a wild fling or two with wicker outdoor patio furniture. NONE. He certainly has not done so while making disgusting claims about gay people.

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      521 year ago

      i adore that he will live out the rest of his days being known as j.d. the couch fucking mascara muffin man vance

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        471 year ago

        We need to stop making fun of men wearing eyeliner. Everything else is fair game but no matter how we spin it or couch it in “well they care, it’s just hypocritical, I don’t care!” it’s a very gendered insult that requires mocking men who wear eyeliner. It’s not clever and it punches down.

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          461 year ago

          It’s not about mocking someone who wears eyeliner, it’s about mocking someone who wears eyeliner and pretends they don’t.

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          your cause is noble, but the outrage over mascara man vance bashing is misguided. “punching down” is insulting race, sexuality, gender, disability, and any other thing that no one chooses for themselves*. makeup is 100% a choice, for everyone. in vance’s example it’s a ridiculous choice, given the requisite strictly defined GOP persona of the “manly man,” which obviously doesn’t involve men wearing makeup. so vance will be mocked for it.

          where’s the outrage over making fun of trump’s orange spray tan? guliani’s hair dye leaking forehead?

          and if you’re going to bring “gendered insult” into the conversation, then exactly who is arguing under the flawed premise that mascara is just for women, if not the person calling the insult gendered?

          don’t worry, i make fun of many, many choices people make, from cartoonishly huge pickup trucks, to cargo shorts

          *edit: apparently “punching down” is generally defined to mean attacking people ‘less powerful’ than yourself. i’m still including unchosen circumstances in my usage

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            I feel like there’s only a handful of people in the world who can “punch down” at a US senator currently running for vice president. I don’t think any of them are hanging out in Lemmy.

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              91 year ago

              LOL it’s not just me. how many women do you know who don’t think cargo shorts make us look like clowns?

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                That’s just anger and jealousy because the fashion industry takes all the pockets from women’s clothes so that there will be enough for men’s cargo shorts. I mean, I get that, and it doesn’t seem fair, but I’m not giving up all the pockets.

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                  81 year ago

                  anger and jealousy because the fashion industry

                  which is completely justified. women get attacked for not looking perfect 100% of the time, not wearing makeup, not shaving their entire body, AND can’t find any clothes that have a single functional pocket. and god forbid a gray hair shows up

                  meanwhile, i’m applauded for not giving a rat’s ass what i look like, shaving zero square inches of any part of my body, and i have the option of clothes with ridiculous numbers of pockets. which IS an option because we don’t have to worry about being attacked for not caring what anyone thinks

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                They stop laughing when I pull an entire Chinese dinner for five out of those cargo shorts. Y’all sneak in your candy to the movies. I’ll do it my way.

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                My mom says they make me look handsome and agrees that it’s neat that I can carry all the sticks and rocks we find at the park!

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            31 year ago

            The liberal urge to make sure a racist misogynist narcissistic fascist is comfortable in their spaces

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          I fully disagree. He’s only getting mocked for that because he’s a “manly man” who would surely criticize others for similar things. And punish anyone who isn’t cis. No one (surely some exceptions but a very small percentage) mocking him for this would ever do so if he weren’t like that.

          And I don’t agree that it’s fair game to repeat a made up lie because it’s supposedly funny. That’s what Republicans do.

          After watching Lemmy spout conspiracy theories galore minutes after the trump shooting and also not give a single shit about this “funny meme” being false, it’s really got me questioning if the left is any smarter than the right. Something I have taken for granted for decades. It’s depressing.

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            111 year ago

            republicans push their lies as facts. no one is trying to claim the couchfucker meme is true. it’s trolling. not remotely the same thing as what republicans do. plus it’s hilarious.

            no, vance’s new name is couchfucker, but I’m sure he appreciates you getting upset about it for him

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              Not everyone understands the trolling. I believed it might be based on something real for a couple days. Nope, just something that was made up. I’ve seen numerous people asking about it also, confused as hell…

              I mean even if he really did write some shit like that, it would barely be funny enough to repeat for more than a week. But he didn’t.

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                saying someone fucks couches is also not remotely comparable to making accusations of rigged elections, rigged judges, pushing, as fact, mountains of conspiracies, and on and on- while the top of their food chain is convicted felon and rapist

                it seems ridiculous to even have to spell out these distinctions because of vance the couchfucker

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                  Spreading false information should be avoided if you wish to be seen as being above it. That remains true no matter the content. It seems ridiculous to me that people seem to cling to the joke so hard that I need to spell that out.

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      I think he’s a natural pairing with Donald Trump, the philanderer. They can bring one girl back home without it getting “weird.”

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      471 year ago

      Does JD fuck couches? A lot of people are saying it. The best people. They keep saying it so there must be some truth to it. Just the other day I asked him so you prefer leather, right? It’s so smooth. It’s durable. It’s perfect! He looked me dead in the eye and said, “polyester”. It’s so rough though! That’s why he needs the glove!

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      No, we’!re talking about the asshole who has plenty of real things to criticize without lowering ourselves to Republican-level antics by repeating random lies from some idiot’s Twitter account.