X is X-ray??
And F is Foxtrot but not just Fox??
Am I the only that thinks this is crazy?
I prefer x as in xylophone myself
It was designed like that for a reason. There’s a lack of one syllable words there, and the ones that are there sound very different. It’s also used for messages that require precision that the average person doesn’t need in day to day life.
Not really, but it makes sense to me.
I learned the phonetic alphabet partly because of the fact that I obtained my amateur radio operator qualification. I’m a “ham” radio person.
Hearing these on the radio, which isn’t super clear to begin with in most cases, it’s much easier to use this way and almost trivial to understand others when they spell anything over the radio. Given this is the NATO alphabet, it’s used by all kinds of people, from ham operators like me, to government/military. Often in conjunction with some kind of communications system, often but not always radio communications, where the signal might be poor.
I think the original intent was to ensure that all letters sounded as unique as possible, so even if you only catch part of the word (maybe the rest is obfuscated by static), you still understand the what was said.
“Fox” could be confused with “box”, so it goes with “Foxtrot”.
Also, keep in mind that everything is a product of its time.
Fox could also be misheard in other languages, not just box.
The old joke about telling your German counterpart about nine tanks coming over the hill and all that.
Beautiful, though they didn’t really describe dd well
this is an alphabet but the whole idea of the phonetic alphabet is to make communication more efficient, and I don’t think this achieves that.
Depends on with whom you’re talking with
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X dd…
M as in Mancy
K as in Knowlege G as in Gnome M as in Mnemonic P as in Pterodactyl W as in Wrist
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LANA
Jesus, the helium!
MAWP
Please use this and don’t make up your own shit on the fly. It’s very understandable both as a rep and a customer.
O as in opossum, p as in pnumonia, c as in Chicago.
K as in knight
When both ends of a conversation are comfortable using the phonetic alphabet, you can easily hit 2+ characters per second, accurately.
In a phone conversation with a vendor they interrupted me while spelling to say something like "oh thank God you’re using the normal one and not shit like ‘frankfurter’ "
Yeah it evolved to where it is now, no more changes.
What were they on with “interrogatory” for a damn vowel.
WE COULD HAVE HAD QUACK FOR Q??? we were robbed
A better choice. If you have Fench Canadians in the forces it is Q as in Kaybec
I memorized it on my commute to work. I taped it to my dash and practiced on the license plates of the cars on the highway. I took it off my dash once I could read street signs out loud before passing them.
Instructions unclear, stuck under the twisted metal of my vehicle. Send paramedics.
I can’t remember this guide but I remember the Android Phonetic Alphabet
- Alpha
- Beta
- Cupcake
- Donut
- Eclair
- Froyo
- Gingerbread
- Honeycomb
- Ice Cream
- Jelly Bean
- KitKat
- Lollipop
- Marshmallow
- Nougat
- Oreo
- Pie
- Quiche
- Red Velvet
- Sugar Cookie
- Tiramisu
- Upside Down Cake
- Vanilla
- Waffle
There are no other letters
Fuck me if someone tells me over the phone:
Cupcake, Upside down cake, Marshmallow
Quiche doesn’t really work, but otherwise it’s not bad.
Pretty sure it’s Ice Cream Sandwich for I.
“M, as in Mancy!”
Lima balls…
All the cool kids learned it from the bloodhound gang.
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo.
When I was a kid, I was in a clan for Battlefield Vietnam that took itself waaaaay too seriously, had a good number of JROTC kids that insisted we all needed to know this, the NATO phonetic alphabet.
We were using teamspeak, had a session where the group leader stood us all in a line, and one by one wanted us to sound it off.
Guy 1: Alpha!
Guy 2 (me): Bravo!
Guy 3: Catholic!
Group Lead: sighs
shoots Guy 3 in the face
I was in the Army for 6 years, yet whenever I try to think of the letter M my brain just short circuits to “Movember”.
M as in mancy
“No, I said P! P for pterodactyl!”
Edit: Though, that said, the point of the phonetic alphabet is they are very distinguishable words that sound nothing like one another. Even making out just “-a-a” you know it was papa, P. So as long as you know how to spell pterodactyl…
The clip of Kitboga still cracks me up where the scammer gets angry for him using “J as in Jalapeño” 😂
The NATO phonetic alphabet is incredibly useful, though it does suffer from some issues in similar sounds. During a recent high frequency (HF) worldwide competition (IARU-HF), weak-signal SSB stations sometimes had to spend a few minutes trying to complete a radio exchange because of similar sounding phonetic endings: “Was that whiskey one bravo alpha?”
“Negative, whiskey one tango alpha—TANGO alpha, over”
This happens so commonly, that many HF operators substitute other words in the same manner to enhance understanding: common ones are kilowatt, sugar, Germany, America, London, etc.
kilowatt, sugar, Germany, America, London
They’re great substitutes. I always found Quebec to be the most distinguishable because of geographic reference.
Golf to Germany makes sense as Golf it’s single syllable with yet another hard type O in it. Unlike Mike which could be missed, but the I and K crack/pop are strong sounds.
Kilowatt is interesting since the ‘watt’ is a backup sound if kilo is distorted. Honestly, Kardashian would be a good one as much as it pains me to say it.
Kilowatt trips me up still, I’ll copy KW maybe once in ~100 exchanges and not notice. It’s more common during high-volume exchanges. Getting better though!
I shudder at even typing Kardashian lol
“Klingon” is my go-to. Just the word, not the language.
If that fails, there’s always Kilimanjaro.
Whiskey tango foxtrot.
I was so close to editing my comment to be “whiskey one tango foxtrot” and now I regret not doing it lol
Kilowatt trips me up still, I’ll copy KW maybe once in ~100 exchanges and not notice. It’s more common during high-volume exchanges. Getting better though!
I shudder at even typing Kardashian lol
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Someone made a whole book out of this joke
Omg, I need to waste my money on this.
When I first started working at a callcenter, I quickly went “oh I need to learn a phonetic alphabet” and printed and posted the NATO alphabet at my desk
We used to do it with everything but the NATO alphabet. Everyone had their own version, I would mostly use first names, some colleagues would do cities, animals, countries, etc etc.
Reinvent the wheel - always a good use of time.
Never claimed it was. It was mostly just a bit of fun in an awfully boring and shitty workplace, and got the job done good enough tbh. We’re talking about a call center here not coordinating nuclear launches.
I worked in armored transportation for awhile and we did this too when checking bags of money in/out of the vault. I liked to choose a theme like “80s action movies” and see if the other person would pick up on it.
I have no idea what it is with the letter “I” that throws me off. I’ve been using this alphabet since I joined the military ~15 years ago, and for some reason “I” still turns into “Igloo”, “Indigo” or “Israel” most of the time. It’s just that one singular letter that I can never remember!
For me it’s Quebec and Kilo, even after more than 15 years in aviation.
Like for spelling my handle here, my first reflex is to say Sierra Quebec uniform…Uuuh no, Sierra Kilo Uniform November Kilo.
Glad to know it’s not just me! Kilo and Quebec makes sense, given that both start with that hard K sound and theyre both words associated with the NATO alphabet. I could easily see struggling with that one too if not for the Bloodhound Gang teaching me “Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo” early on in my youth.
Ah, Kebek! Make sure to try the pooteen!
Pretty sure “Indigo” was used in either a previous version or another phonetic alphabet. NATO’s isn’t the only one. I think some police forces still use “Abel, Baker…”
Average Canadian: “Oh yeah, I got this one easy bud!”
Alright, for your final test: how do you spell Quebec?
AC: “Oh, for sure, that one there is easy! It’s, uh… Q, for… uh…”
…
AC: “Q… for… Kay-beck…”
Great fishin’ in Kew-beck
C’est facile non?