I made the mistake of balking at some particularly unhinged Ukraine/Russia rhetoric offline yesterday and got called a vatnik, a tankie, a Russia lover and I was even suspected of being pro-Israel and apparently a nazbol Aimee Therese follower or something

I’m not even invested in this shit, I just find the insane saber-rattling and warmongering unsettling desolate

When someone tells you Putler’s going to invade Estonia, Poland and Finland for Lebensraum next if he’s not stopped in Ukraine, just nod your head solemnly

  • flan [they/them]
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    5611 months ago

    got called a vatnik, a tankie, a Russia lover

    that is more online than being against the ukraine war

  • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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    2111 months ago

    I just go quiet when anyone start yapping Lib or Chud shit and just say “uh hun, yeah” and don’t give them anything till they get bored and go back to talking about other shit.

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    IDK I bring up some stuff that’s pretty outside the mainstream on the regular, people are pretty receptive nowadays I’m finding (Philly). Our analysis conforms with reality for most people, weird. This can of course always happen, you found someone whose programming at that point was just going to totally shutdown on or reject some points.

    Anecdotal but if it’s any consolation I met a guy in a random video chat (minichat/ome dot TV/chatruletka network) who was in Ukraine, with his wife and cat. They were in a rolling power outage and bored, he was pretty articulate but his wife had way better English. They were actually on the level and agreed that they were just getting fucked by NATO too, and the war should have ended years ago rather than what’s been going on. I didn’t even bring it up.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    2611 months ago

    I’m surrounded by oinking hogs so a part of my weird internet politics actually vibes with them really easily, problem there is that any time culture war bullshit comes up I get basically the same treatment you’re describing but in a hog-talk style.

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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    2511 months ago

    Fake. Z post IRL. People can smell your half-baked unconfident position and it’s contradictions. You will only win them over with full throated anti-imperialism

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    5211 months ago

    It’s funny because my friend group basically does that when I go off on political stuff because A) my sheer force of will, B) I have a degree in history (associates, but still) and C) they’re mostly laid-back nerds

    The one time there was push back, it was the member of the friend group we expelled because he yelled slurs at his newborn son while we were playing a game

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    1311 months ago

    I’ve been open about my politics for 14 years now and it only got me accosted once. I’m surrounded by mostly reactionary Christian fundamentalists or apolitical Latinos so no one really knows what to make of me. Most people just think I’m joking.

    • hello_hello [comrade/them]
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      1011 months ago

      Most people just think I’m joking.

      Literally what happens to me when I say anything good about AES. That’s what dozens of hours. of vice news liberal journalism does to people.

  • Chronicon [they/them]
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    3411 months ago

    I’m not gonna jump straight to stanning DPRK with people (though I definitely will plant the seed about the insane propaganda being fake and the insanity of the US bombing campaign and shit) but honestly its rare that I get someone who is committed enough to their political stances to push back when presented with someone who clearly has thought more about it and is more familiar wit hthe situation. So I just go for it, more or less.

  • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    Imma pull out the Keffiyeh and EFF beret when someone starts coping at me for being too political

    redacted-1redacted-2 to AmeriKKKa, “israel”, uKKK and Europe

  • hello_hello [comrade/them]
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    7311 months ago

    You got called a tankie IRL? That’s so fucking funny, who were you even talking to? some Vaush horse enjoyer?

    I would love to be called a tankie irl instead of having to debunk “Oh Israel is a ethnostate but they’re a lot of ethnostates in the world and they don’t get any flack” over and over again.

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    11 months ago

    My friends: you hear about Russia sending ships to Cuba?

    Me: yeah, it’s great.

    My friends:

    I just want the US embargo to end so people can get essential supplies. If they have to get them from somewhere else, whose fault is that…

    • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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      1811 months ago

      This attitude is so baffling to me

      US doesn’t like them so now Cuban people can’t have food and medicine??

      I know, I know, USAmericans and similar (assuming) are raised from birth to be good running dogs, but damn, just think about how you would feel in that situation…