Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Oh look, an AI tool to make Wikipedia worse.
(Apparently, the Wikimedia Foundation couldn’t even be bothered to care about the standards that en.wp contributors deem necessary for sources on medical topics. Because it’s more important to “sustain and grow Wikimedia projects in a changing online knowledge landscape”. Dammit, where’s the button that sends electrical shocks through the Internet to anyone who talks like that?)
at least Wikipedia has some rather strident
rulessuggestions on LLM use - tl;dr under no goddamn circumstance, don’t be a fucking idiot. And this seems to be using it as a forest-burning search engine rather than anything that will generate wiki text.
can we pin this one?
I believe it’ll happen a bit later when david/self/blake are around
the keymasters
keepers of the thread
idk what this is but extremely funny image
It’s something strange. Maybe in this neighbourhood.
spoiler
Something something ghostbusters
Ghostbuster (1984) terror dogs, which because no IP can remain dead and nothing new can be created, have been reintroduced in the more recent ghostbuster movies.
See this clip (From 1984)
FYI this led to me watching the movie last night
It is a good movie. Also the best piece of propaganda the libertarians ever made. Justice for Peck!
E: “buu…buttt he shut down the machine!”, yes, that wasn’t great but the shutdown was inevitable, they were running a onetime payment business model with permanent containment costs via the high power usage and rent of the building (and this is ignoring the need of multiple storage facilities, as this one was already getting full). He just sped up the process, but prob prevented an even larger outbreak as the ghostbusters (who are not great with money) would have eventually not been able to pay the powerbill. Prob taking out more than just one building.
I blame new york lack of bears, the natural enemy of libertarians.
spoiler for Ghostbusters Frozen empire.
E2: apparently it gets even worse in the later movies, as the ghosts can escape from the containment units, it didn’t even work! (Eurgh, they brought back the containment unit explosion, undead IP).
this is just how I look
live reaction shot upon @self seeing yet another driveby dipshit poster thinking they’re real clever
Are you a dad mid-squint, trying to visually discern something before giving up or putting on eyeglasses? Because the more I look at it, that’s the vibe I get from the pic
…I mean look, it’s not that I don’t like wearing my glasses, they’re just uncomfortable (because I don’t wear them)
i completely forgot until i saw this comment
i’ve been running on adrenalin since thursday for reasons i’m not going into yet (started deeply fucked up, i’m smiling but i’m very fucking furious, may be resolving to less fucked up cross fingers, i’m smiling like that Ukrainian politician who made the phone video welcoming the Russian invaders into Hell) so expect nothing of me for a little while until all is more determinate
it’s useful having a cowriter, we can cover for each other
sounds bad! hope all is ok
you know
I actually meant to post that (a friend sent it to me earlier, and it was why I even got around to starting the new stubsack)
adhdbrain is a fuck
(it is a fucking hilarious tweet tho)
(it is a fucking hilarious tweet tho)
Anything that takes the edge off a possible Great Recession sequel’s fine in my book
Jesus, take the wheel!
–intel, probably
Quick personal sneer: I just had a call with a company trying to sell us their SaaS password/secrets manager solution because we’re trying to force everyone to use one instead of using
hunter2
everywhere.Anyway, after going on for 30 minutes about their amazing integrations with every platform on the planet and their super duper security and how their systems are rock solid and never fail, the marketing dude finished off by trying to sell ChatGPT integration as a feature. Not for actual passwords, thank fuck, but in order to quickly produce integrations between their APIs and other systems. He proudly proclaimed that “Usually there’s no security issues with just copy-pasting the code from ChatGPT.”
Usually.
what
whattttttttt
whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
and it’s not like crowdstrike didn’t just happen. I guess maybe it was too recent, and the lesson-of-pain hasn’t percolated through to dipshit"integration advisor" technical sales fuckwits yet
bonus round, whatever the hell lemmy did here:
It only shows it like that to you because it’s your password.
ah yeah, the well-known
nter2
Rust function that lets you… enter the number 2, you know?would’ve thought that’s a js/ts package
I didn’t even know this was happening friend sent me the screenshot, but apparent grimusk are in the bureaucratic stages of their relationship ending. and of course it’s going extremely normal:
I sadly know more, it is horrible. Not only is there a custody battle, grimes grandma is dying and she has never seen grimes kids, and because Musk isn’t reacting to anything Grimes mother put a plea online for him to please let her grandkids see her mother.
Poor kids, just heartbreaking.
E: source
heh
that looks pretty fucking shitty. but we all already knew both of them were fucking ghouls. sucks for the kids, hopefully they can get out okay eventually. but that’s about as much as I’m willing to say (largely: reasons private, w/ heavy state load implications. I don’t mind telling/explaining, but not in public, and it’s a lot of work/context)
Yeah both suck, I have some opinions who would prob be better as a parent, but really just hope the kids get out ok. All this laughing at the weird tech fascists is a lot less fun due to there being so many innocents hurt.
And he keeps making more innocents to hurt.
I’m embarassed for the person wearing that shirt, and the people who made it, and us all for having seen that.
No wait something is wrong… This is the torture simulation!
Dammit, you caught me again! Time for another go-round…
i assume the shirt is ironic haha
I think you’re right but I’ve also learned to never underestimate the level of cringe some people are capable of.
As I’m no longer able to pronounce gif correctly (I started calling it jif ironically) I’m a firm believer in you will eventually turn into that which you pretend to be.
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Surely the words being put into the son’s mouth should be “What’s his TikTok?”.
this isn’t sneer material but I’m a bit too exhausted to post a thread specifically for it: I stumbled upon PieFed and it looks really promising — a few of the architectural decisions are similar to ones I’d make, and lately I’ve become a lot more open to running Python in production (and it’s going to be much less awful to hack on too)
this could be a viable path forward if we decide lemmy is a rotten codebase (it is) and PieFed gets closer to feature parity with what we’ve got now
I just half-wrote a post in this textfield then snipped it
will dm elsewhere
(largely snipped because I’m too fucking out of spoons today to format it without edgepruning (which it probably deserves))
I’m really not a fan of Python (in general; the whole philosophy of that language is kinda opposite to my idea of programming) but I have to admit the project does look interesting at first glance.
And after glancing at the Lemmy codebase a few times I think that an alternative or at least competition is a good thing.
Regarding the paper “Discovery of a structural class of antibiotics with explainable deep learning”, a comment by e. e. arroyo:
“Yes! we can make explainable predictions of compounds with AI now!”
- They could only explain 15% of predictions
- They could only understand 9% of those explanations
- 60% of those were wrong
- The 4 active compounds left are probably, arguably, not even a novel class
i’m not reading all that, at least now, but i’d just notice that carboxylic acids are notoriously terrible at crossing membranes unless some trickery is used, so there could be massive issues downstream. issues that, you know, can be effortlessly pruned at early stage of drug development
I do remember part of the appeal for SETI@home back in the day was the ability to analyze the data that heuristics had ruled out but not conclusively, so it’s not like there’s no precedent. Of course the other benefit of BOINC was using the “spare” cycles in consumer hardware rather than purpose-building more massive power and water-hungry datacenters, so the cost was arguably negligible even if the benefits were similarly small.
“for SBV values of explaining”
babe wake up, antitrust law was confirmed not dead
(I will say this one surprised me)
I heard that one of Bidens good things is to put actually effect people on antitrust laws. Sadly I also heard that Harris is planning on putting somebody else on there.
A lot of what Biden did was based on the wide margins the executive had. But now with Chevron deference dead people can sue those efforts and will win via the 5th Circuit or SCOTUS, because they’re institutions bought by people who most vehemently hate antitrust laws. Similar reasoning applies to right-to-repair efforts.
In other words, USA will never have nice things unless Harris pulls off a major court reform.
Thanks! Indeed, I keep forgetting Chevron. Not sure how far this replacement is related however, but there should be a different priority indeed. Hope she pulls it off, people seem happy with Waltz at least. He also seems like a mostly decent person. Worst I saw people go was compare him to Boss Hogg, which is quite the dated reference.
I guess the people making the “Boss Hogg” references were very very old liberals/hippies, because man that reference is dated, and his political opponents won’t try to give him an epithet they’d consider positive.
Aside, this is funny https://xcancel.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1820873722653503602
Seems that Vance is openly campaigning for Harris now.
The government has asked for “structural relief” - which could, in theory at least, mean the break-up of the company.
How likely would this be?
The replies are gloriously butthurt.
Not just ratioed, his tweets get, for the amount of followers he has, an low amount of likes and retweets, exceptions seeming to be his stolen meme posts (The fascist hard times one was very scare with over a million of likes), esp considering the amount of views.
Goes to show how much of the views/follower count is just worthless padding.
E: unrelated to the ratio of Musk, but related to Musk so only worth an edit, he is claiming the advertisers not wanting to advertise is a RICO case. Poor Popehat.
Seeing that, I too immediately thought, in popehat voice, “It’s not RICO.”
I have seen three separate instances of start-ups with “AI” in their name that proudly display a tagline along the lines of “BUILDING THE NEXT UNICORN” and jesus fuck almighty I swear I will fucking piledrive the next recruiter that tries that on me
pitch: magical flying unicorn pony that ejaculates rainbows
product: retired seaside donkey with a cornetto on its head and we fed it food colouring and laxativesdude donkeys are awesome
tell the marketers
the donkey is dead but we prop it up with dollar stacks
Summary of the recent crowdstrike report: 🧵https://infosec.exchange/@munin/112916974811882522
Munin wonders if the weird writing style of the report might be because crowdstrike used an LLM to generate a summary of several source documents, which would be funny-yet-depressing if true.
The actual causes of the incident probably won’t suprise anyone… “didn’t bounds-check, didn’t test parser on bad data, didn’t stage rollouts” in order of should-have-done-this-first-ness.
Minor, but it’s CrowdStrike not cloudstrike
People are so trained to shout at Cloudflare for protecting the neo-nazi sites that this is every understandable.
Image description
Simpsons cartoon, Marge shouts ‘Cloudflare, no!’ to her left. Bart, with the Cloudflare logo on his head walks in from the right, ‘What?’. Marge apologizes to Bart, ‘Sorry force of habit’. Marge shouts ‘Crowdstrike, no!’.
while that’s also a problem, doesn’t really seem that’s what happened here
I have seen a lot of people call it cloudstrike and not a lot of other variants, so I assumed it was due to crowdstrike and cloudflare being so similar.
fair ‘nuff :)
I think ClownStrike is the name they deserve
Completely agree, that’s why I nit, since “CloudStrike” sounds like an actual name for an actual product and I will not have that stand!
AWS probably has pre-filled patent documents ready for CloudStrike, just waiting on some acquihire or popular open source thing they can product-leech
It’s a really weird name for a product. A crowd strike sounds like a terrorist tactic, not something that brings “security” to mind.
Tom Clancy’s CrowdStrike sounds like the kind of military fiction I’d accidentally buy from the thrift store
there’s a whole strain of extreme terribleness in the wider infosec industry ito naming and references, it’s so goddamn bad
the most recently visible form of this is post-heartbleed how lots of researchers/groups now fall over themselves to give vuln publications Branding (logo, catchy name, etc), but also all kinds of other things that they constantly mix some terminology soup up
Oops, I’ve been trying to avoid calling it “clownstrike”, and didn’t quite manage to fix that initial syllable.
my local community radio station is getting in on the act with a quality sneer in their annual magazine:
What if the Silicon Valley creeps who control huge swathes of our existence decided that they didn’t want this to be their legacy? Well, one solution would be to guarantee the survival of the species by uploading our brains into computers and rocketing them into space. If a few people cark it in the climate catastrophe, it’ll be fine as long as there’s a big cyber noggin down the track… just google TESCREAL. We didn’t make this up.
big cyber noggin? @[email protected]
Walks into the room, hits the top of the doorframe, making sounds like a gallon of water being sloshed around
You called?
Before anybody asks, pump didn’t work out. Doing saline injections now, read on SSC it would work.
hmm this got me scrolling through his TL. I didn’t know or forgot that shen is actually a really good poster, shame I didn’t follow him while I was on twitter
Shen always seemed like a pretty decent person who posts pretty well. The whole situation where people attacked him for accepting the theft of his bike was pretty strange. (The comic just went ‘well, guess they need it more than I do, whatever’ which seems like a healthy way to get over your bike getting stolen. And people lost their minds, how dare Shen not be angry!).
And seems somebody made a docu about that note the person reacting to this still mad about Shens acceptance.
when I first saw the bike comic I remember it struck me as exactly what someone would write in the midst of a pathetic attempt at positive thinking. but if it represents how he genuinely felt, for me it goes from cringe and not that interesting to just not interesting
that comic is especially enraging to right wingers. with them is where I’ve seen the sustained loathing for it. the idea that despised lowlies are stealing your shit and you must strike back/first is fundamental to right wing ideology, especially the right wing conception of masculinity. you’re supposed to hate the people lower than you in the hierarchy largely because their existence is theft. a guy not being mad about actual real theft by some city rando spits on a premise their whole ideology rests on
it kind of reminds me of the “I really like girls” video which I’m too lazy to pull up. it’s just a streamer doing a cute little rap about how he really likes women, and someone put a mildly cringe animation over it. very online right wingers hate hate hate that video, because you’re not supposed to actually like women: they’re lower than men in the hierarchy. or such would be the subtext when they ranted about it
I mean, what the hell else are you going to do if your bike was stolen? Instead of doing nothing about it you can go to the police so they can do nothing about it.
3CR! You should pitch a Sneer Club show to them.
didn’t think anyone would catch this! I might have to at this rate, there’d be no shortage of material…
I had just been looking at their website or I wouldn’t have caught it, lol.
I think Yeah Nah Pasaran have done some coverage of technofascism and TESCREAL.
You should definitely pitch a show. You could have an evil AI as a co-presenter.
(E: And he is certainly not joking. More: My doctor, and all of you were wrong because I didn’t explain myself well (this longer post, while coming closer to a point still sucks. High ‘shooting the people who clean phones into space’ feeling))
Woo, complaining about a community note is big Karen energy.
I mean, for the doctor it’s pretty hard to tell a dude who is “GMU econ prof, NYT bestseller, father of 4, author of Myth of the Rational Voter, Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids, Case Against Education, Open Borders, & BBB” apart from any other entitled white guy whose read too much Facebook.
Practically is there much difference?
dude got fucking ratioed lol
My flight instructor talked to me like a child when I refused a parachute. Death from skydiving only causes a handful of deaths per year!
I made the mistake of reading the comments on that substack and I’m beginning to actually feel the raw desperation of these sycophants for someone of “note” to notice them.
Innumeracy is the opioid of the masses.
This is the genius-level discourse that Bryan Caplan foments in his marketplace of ideas.
the dead mall of ideas
It’s really really hard for me to take grown men who make a show of being deathly afraid of a little jab you can barely feel seriously.
Same here. Any kind of jab’s a PITA for me, and anything intravenous is some of the worst shit I’ve ever experienced, but I’ve gritted my teeth and gotten through them no problem.
Is he ever going to specify which booster? If he refused Tdap he is a menace to society not because of risk of tetanus but spreading pertussis to the vulnerable.
Still, anyone that took him seriously before this should be embarrassed.
“Ideological Turing test”?
Not gonna look up what that is, but I’m sure it’s debatebro “civility” fetishism.
It is the not totally bad idea that you understand a different perspective if you can reliably write pieces of text in such a way that somebody from that perspective cannot tell you don’t hold that ideological position.
It fails pretty quickly when tribalism comes into play (aka do it a few times, conclude ‘our side is better at passing this test, so we are better’, ideologies being broad and people not always realizing which ideology they really are in/differences in definitions. And other issues like it is just a bit of intellectual masturbation, depending on finding neutral people of that perspective. ‘you failed the intellectual turing test so we can ignore your criticism of our side’. ‘You would fail an intellectual turing test so we can ignore you’. It being debate bro culture with extra steps. People are not actually interested in the test but use the test as an argument to bash people (you once failed at detecting sarcasm and misattributed a sarcastic joke from a leftwinger to the far right? This shows the entire left fails the intellectual turing test and should not be listened to). etc etc. /rant
Somehow that’s even dumber than I thought. Especially given the amount of actual political discourse taking the form of “can you believe the woke left wants to allow doctors to trans your children at the age of 3 months!”
Could some of these people write a compelling pro-trans argument? Probably, given that their exaggerations are absurd, nonsensical , and/or contradictory on their face and that the pro-trans arguments are generally rooted in basic respect for people’s autonomy over their own bodies. But that doesn’t stop them from lying about what trans people actually want in order to gain political power by stoking the right’s identitarian outrage.
Depends on who you mean with ‘those people’ I think the people of themotte woudl have a lot of trouble writing a pro trans argument for example. Esp as the people in there who are leftwingers (or pretend to be) tend to be anti trans, and there is also a big tendency for them to not understand basic leftwing ideas. That one leftwinger (forgot their name for now they had some number in their name) who kept engaging there, got a few complaints they kept reexplaining the same stuff.
Yeah, if you keep ignoring the explanations and misrepresenting people, they will have to do that. (or quit).
went and peeked at the ezra klein podcast on the off chance he’s gotten into anything interesting
lol
Who the hell is Ezra Klein? Some Joe Rogan type of guy with a lot of bad ideas on a podcast?
idk if this will mean anything to you but matt yglesias is the muppet version of ezra klein
I guess it does, in the sense that I have asked “who tf is Matt Yglessias and why does anyone listen to him” many times and received no satisfactory explanation either
To be fair, it’s hard to really internalize that all these rich and powerful techbros are actually morons after all these years of journalists like Ezra Klein breathlessly reporting their weird ideas and baseless claims about what they were going to be able to do in the next couple of years.
I rewrote it for accuracy:
There’s something of a paradox that has defined my experience with artificial intelligence in this particular moment. It’s clear we’re witnessing the advent of a wilfully stupid fart machine, one that could transform the atmosphere into farts and the way we think about farts and creating farts and the value of human farts itself. At the same time, I can’t for the life of me figure out why I’d want to sit in a room filled with my own farts.
So I wanted to understand what I’m missing and get some tips for how I could incorporate farts better into my life right now. And Eating Mollusks is the perfect guide: He’s a pro-fartor at the Fartin’ School at the University of Farts
the nuanced take nobody wants to hear: farts are a tool, and like any tool they can be used for good or bad. that’s what progress is. we can’t let the possibility of a few bad uses of farts overshadow how farts can unleash the futures of truly creative individuals, businesses and societies.
to address another common point: yes, there are kinks to be worked out. sometimes farted information can be wrong. farted music doesn’t always come out with the clarity we want. farted art is sometimes missing details. but farts are already revolutionizing and democratizing the arts, science, and even the concept of human interaction. we can’t lose sight of the great potential of farting - just like the early days of the internet, we don’t know what amazing things we’ll end up with because of it.
Δ Thanks, this really changed my perspective on farts