Yes, I’m the one in the group DM that turns the bubbles green, I’m sorry.
But other than that, I don’t hear many other reasons why people actually prefer iPhones over Androids. What other reasons are there?
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The optimisation. And the ecosystem of iPad iPhone AirPods Mac. Watch
I don’t currently have one but they’re in the running to replace my current phone since most of the android market has been enshitified to be just as bad as them.
Have you tried getting a human on the phone with any Google product ever ?
Leave a comment if you have ever talked to a google/alphabet employee during their work hours about a problem that you have with a google/alphabet service or product ?
OS updates. It’s frustrating to buy a top of the line android phone just for it to be forgotten by the manufacturer in 6-8 months.
This used to be a huge issue for me, but the last couple of Samsung phones I bought they kept them pretty well supported for years.
I switched to iPhone because I was the last in the family thread and was ruining it for everyone’s bubbles, and the iPhone mini is just a great size, the android phones I liked just kept getting a bit bigger and bigger to the point that it bothered me.
This was a huge reason for my switch from Android to Apple. Years ago i ran custom ROMs but i found myself spending far too much time flashing updates, and forgetting to backup data and wiping something important.
I will say, some ROMs these days are practically maintenance free. I have been running graphene os for about 3 years now and I have never had issues updsting by just pressing the button.
That is great to hear, too bad manufacturers cannot keep their phones up to date like that.
This right here. Lifelong Android user that switched to the iPhone 14 and never looked back.
Edit: iPhone 13, not 14, my bad.
My problem with Apple is that everything’s designed to interoperate with other Apple stuff, and nothing else. It feels like a walled garden that doesn’t just keep users in, but also keeps those of us out who might want to try a single Apple device without spending many thousands replacing our entire ecosystem.
Not necessarily.
You can get one and try it out, the ecosystem stuff is more enhancement than a detriment if you don’t have them.
Like Apple Watch and my MacBook Air, I can authenticate or unlock the screen using my Apple Watch rather than a password. But that’s just a benefit and I wouldn’t be losing anything but the enhancement if I didn’t have both.
I think they are talkign about if you already have the stuff working with every other device but apple
Literally causing people to get bullied into getting an iphone over stupid chat bubble colors.
Which gets even stupider when you realize apple is being stubborn and that is causing the issue
Absolutely, Apple is being resistant to RCS not because they think iMessage is superior but because they know it weakens their lock in power. I know I’m stating the obvious, but it just annoys me so much.
It’s funny you say that with the 14 that came out less than a year ago :)
Although I made the same jump with the 12 so I do agree.
Pixels give you 5 years now same as iphone.
Also, custom ROMs are great on supported phones, even after the official OTAs gone
Only security updates.
OS updates are only 3 years
Iphones get a lot more than 3 updates
Yes that is my point.
Pixels only get 3 major version updates which is less than the iPhone
If you use the stock rom, if you install a custom one you get updates as long as the developers continue working which is quite a pong time for some of the ROMs that exist right now
However you have to take into consideration what the OS updates do on each device.
On iOS, an update also updates all the system apps, meaning Safari, Maps, weather, notes, mail, health, photos, the calculator and so on are hyper dependent on having OS updates for a long time.
On Android, all of those system apps are updated via the play store, and a lot of deeper features can be updated via Google Play services similarly to how Nearby share was able to be back ported to any Android device running 6.0 or newer when it came out recently. Full OS updates are still important for Android, but they aren’t nearly as critical to the overall user experience.
I use an iPhone, but I’d love them to move all system app updates into the App Store for more frequent updates. The only plus side to the way Apple does it is that everyone gets the update at the same time and you don’t have annoying staged rollouts like you do with Google apps.
I still haven’t quite forgiven Google for abandoning owners of the Nexus 5X the second the Pixel came out…
The 5X was such a garbage device that it makes sense that they’d try to sweep that trash under the rug. I swear I was getting barely more than 40 minutes SoT and it would get stupidly hot if you tried to do anything on it.
I was so happy with my Pixel 1 purchase, Pixel 2 was also a treat. And then I switched to iPhone in 2018 because Google pissed me off when they insisted that the half pink screen on my Pixel 3 was normal and acceptable. I’ve had an iPhone as my daily ever since, but have tried every Pixel since and currently own a 7 as a backup phone.
But the iPhone experience is still overall better, especially since CarPlay is still rock solid compared to Android Auto, which was one of my absolute deciding factors. Apollo was too, but now that’s gone, so if Google could make wireless Android Auto not turn my Pixel 7 into a furnace and improve the battery life in general further for the Pixel 8, I could see me returning to Android.
I kept my Nexus 5X until Pixel 4a came out. That was a good phone. I was lucky that the refurbished i got, after suffering the dead after phone too hot demise, actually lasted and it’s still alive as second phone, if needed. Custom ROMs were still a thing. I miss then sometimes or rather i sometimes miss the custom ROM community. Some very dedicated people, lots of asshats and always noobs asking the kind of questions everyone loved.
I hope the Pixel 4a is an outlier regarding support! The 4a will be getting updates until August 2023, and the 4a 5g until November of this year.
I had a Nexus 10 they abandoned after two years. Made me never want to spend money on an android tablet again. Honestly I would probably switch to iOS if I could have ad blockers.
You’ve been able to get ad blockers on iOS for years at this point, they call them “content blockers”. They’re not as full featured as those on android though.
Can I get YouTube AdBlock and can I add custom filter lists?
iPhone gets you more like 10 years of security updates
https://www.makeuseof.com/apple-security-updates-for-10-year-old-devices/
My iPad from 2015 is still getting all the updates. It’s wild.
Yeah I think iPad’s are clearly better than any android tablet.
Yeah I don’t like Apple. Though unfortunately, the iPad is the only useful consumer tablet imo. Android tablets seem to only be good for like integrated uses like a construction tablet with custom software.
And i would love my Ipad even more if i could have the option to install a custom rom to have the customization options that i just loose with ipados
I just want my Nintendo DS emulator back on my iPad :(
Exactly.
Owning Apple products feels less wasteful, somehow. I don’t replace them often.
My s21 is still getting OS updates.
I have 15 years worth of apps
Because ive been sucked into the Apple universe (except my laptop. I just can’t).
Plus, and honestly more importantly, you take it out of the box and it just works.
Oh, and I can’t stand/understand googles UI no matter how hard I try. It’s just not I that I’ve to me.
I’ve never taken an android out of the box and it not work. Not sure what that statement even means.
Well, I buy xiaomi phones and … well, need to root and flash roms. That is only me though, I am sure there are many users that are okay with OEM phone systems.
Heh, I get your issue with xiaomi. I feel like it’s just what you get when buying a chinese phone. MIUI is the absolute worst android ui you can get in terms of advertising, I mean come one who tf advertises IN SYSTEM APPS. But they’re aprettx good platform for custom ROMs and rooting
Yeah lol
I also never had an android not work out of the box, the setup feels the same as apple complexity wise
As a long time android user I was kind of impressed by the setup process on newer android phones. Easily migrates your data over and sets everything up for you to your liking. Feels very polished.
Early non iPhones weren’t always that way.
Oh man the MacBook is the shit, I switched to mac years ago, windows laptops just suckkkkkkk. The touchpad alone is enough for me to never have a windows laptop again. Can dual boot it to windows too to cover all bases. My MacBook is over 10 years old and still running the latest OS smoothly and feels like it’s up to todays standards still for what I use it for.
I know, I’ve used macs/MacBooks before. There are a handful of gestures I can’t get used to. And at this point, I’ve got everything setup, and all the software setup for what I’ve got. I actually really like my surface.
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You can replace OneUI with a different launcher. I don’t have these app pages that are unintuitive boxes. I have an alphabetical app list with a favorites at the top.
Are you using niagara launcher by any chance?
(except my laptop. I just can’t).
That’s kinda funny because that’s probably their product category that I find the most compelling. Watches and earbuds I don’t care about, phones can really go either way, but since they switched to the M chips the power and efficiency are just so good the Windows laptop just look a lot worse in comparison to me.
I admittedly haven’t looked at the MacBooks since I bought my surface, but size and storage/processing were a large part of my decision. Plus I struggle with some of the Mac gestures. I honestly can’t get past the lack of right click, HOWEVER windows is doing some seriously annoying dumb shit lately, so I’ll look at the MacBook again, when my surface dies.
Every other computer I interact with is on windows. All the software we have is windows (I’m not sure how subscription services work for switching OS).
All I’m saying is it’ll take some doing to switch over, and they hadn’t been worth it to me in past researching. Just like I’d struggle to switch from the Apple phone/watch/AirPod situation.
Right click exists, you just have to turn it on in the trackpad menu then the bottom right corner becomes the area that will react to it. Or I think the default is two finger click for the gesture.
Edit: bottom right corner
Today I learned. Thanks!
It used to be guaranteed OS updates for me. But now that I’m in the ecosystem it’s too much of a hassle to switch.
Between HomeKit, having an Apple Watch & AirPods and now using macOS for work everything is convenient.
The HomeKit part maybe changing though.
Yea I completely forgot to mention HomeKit in my comment! Is it kind of generic and do I wish it could do more? Yea, but damn is it nice to tell Siri “goodnight” and all the light in the house go out, the doors lock, and the alarm sets! Plus my partner can use it better than home assistant, and if I need my bro to come watch my house for a week, I can give him access on his phone and revoke it any time!
Have you integrated Home Assistant with HomeKit yet? I’ve yet to make the jump but really need to
I have and for the most part it’s actually really good and responsive… live video feeds aren’t working like I want (no live video, just an updated scene every 30 seconds), but house alarm, lights, garage door, outlets, door locks all work great and all of it is through home assistant then to HomeKit … none of my devices are “HomeKit” compatible, I use mostly z-wave and have home assistant parse the info and tunnel though home
There are plenty of reasons.
A robust ecosystem Privacy protection features and measures that are given first rate support - at least as far as you can say about a closed source platform Simplicity
I have years of experience with iPhones and flagship Galaxy phones since the 5.
I’m settled on the iPhone for now because those blue bubbles make keeping in contact with family easy. Sure you could use WhatsApp but if it’s not already being used, most people won’t want to download another app just to communicate. They’d rather use the built in texting app.
It also syncs well with my watch that I use for fitness tracking, and my Mac Studio that I use for professional work.
with it’s proprietary software, no one knows whether or not ios is good for privacy or not. it certainly sends data back to apple automatically, without user consent.
Yeah. I added an addendum although I clearly did not format it properly.
They claim to be about privacy and seem to consider it a first class concern or however you want to put it.
I weighed the risks and the inconvenience of using a degoogled phone severely outweighs its utility for me.
In an ideal world I could be using GrapheneOS but a lot of OSS still has some ways to go in terms of design and functionality.
Also before the “HA GOTCHA GO SUPPORT THEM YOURSELF” etc etc, I financially support many open source projects and foundations and am working on sharpening my dev skills to contribute more.
I’d rather be tracked by apple than google.
because Apple is going to use your data to a less nefarious end? I don’t get it.
That’s my belief. They don’t derive revenue from their users data, they get it through hardware sales and service subscriptions. Google has proven that they will monetize their users data in not so pleasant ways. I like Google products a lot but don’t use them because of their business practices overall
Contrary to Apply making products harder to repair, efficiently locking in to their ecosystem with no way out? Apple ducks consumers every day. I doubt they’d gather all your data for the purpose of utilizing storage space.
assuming this is true, for me it’s not what they do with the data it’s just them collecting and keeping data they don’t need.
I’d rather trust the devil I know than the devil that’s better at hiding it’s evil. Apple isn’t some amazing perfect company that cares about you. Almost everything they do is anti-user, they just do it in a way that apple-only users think is a bonus because they’ve been forced into apple only products already. Not to mention their idiotic pricing.
If you think apple is somehow “trustworthy” or not just as “evil” as Google in any way you’ve let their marketing team fool you.
It’s been proven in court that Apple refuses to decrypt locked iPhones or messages
You can degoogle your android phone. There are ROMs/OSs which are free from tracking.
But then you lose functionality like Android Auto, where on an iPhone you get CarPlay. Android Auto on my Pixel 7 Pro is fine, honestly like as much as CarPlay, but if you install something like Graphene OS, it no longer works.
Yeah but if that’s the price of not being tracked means, I happily say goodbye to android auto. I’m using lineageOS for years and I didn’t notice much missing except Google pay and android auto.
When on iPhone, Apple still tracks you when your privacy settings should’ve disable it.
Why do you need to use a Google app to use NFC payment? Why isn’t there an F-Droid app for that?
No. I read somewhere it needs bank agreements or something. Unfortunately microG doesn’t support it too… I think that’s my biggest con, but as long as banking and money transfer apps works, I don’t mind.
Bank apps are a very big one but I really don’t care I’m not giving in
Apple’s tracking has also proven to be far less severe than Google’s through Google Play Services on Android. And much easier to opt out of
The iPhone was the first smartphone. I got my 3G before android phones were a thing. Once you are used to an ecosystem, it just is easier to stay there. I struggle when someone hands me an android.
That is true, it goes the other way too. The only reason I can somewhat use an IPhone proficiently is because of the amount of tech support I have given for them.
I’m responsible for supporting the phones for my family and my wife’s office. When smartphones became available, the iPhones seemed much easier to support with my non-tech-savvy user base then Android and I’ve stuck with that ever since.
I’ve had to support both in my family, apple has consistently been more of a pain. They’re almost impossible to fix when they’d decide to start breaking or doing weird things. Every android is an easy fix, and no matter how bad they get there is always a fix. With apple after almost any point it’s “send it in and pay for a repair or buy a new one”, just like apple designs them to do.
It really depends on your budget and what you define as an “easy fix.” For tons of people I know, they’d rather send something in for repair or buy a new device than spend twenty minutes searching for a solution.
Which is still bad because you don’t have the option to do it a cheaper way, you have to do the expensive repair or get expensive licensed stuff from apple. You should be able to do it by yourself at a reasonable cost without issues.
More reliability, more polished OS and longer support cycle.
I’m a dedicated Android user, and really none of my friends or family use iPhone. What is a blue or green bubble??
When you send a text from an iphone to another iphone the text bubble is blue. When you send a text from an iphone to a non iphone user it is green.
Thank you! I’ve never experienced that so I had no idea.
It’s a very US thing since they’re still texting normally and in iMessage, normal SMS show up as green bubbles instead of blue.
In the rest of the world, messaging apps like WhatsApp are more popular which doesn’t have this.
I’m in the US and rarely use regular text. I’m mostly texting through Facebook messenger actually although I don’t really use Facebook itself. Just most of my friends use that method to send messages.
To elaborate, blue bubbles indicate that the message is being sent via iMessage, whereas green is SMS/MMS. iMessage is basically all the promises of RCS, realized. In the case of group messages, if just one person in the group is not on iPhone, the entire group has to fall back to SMS. The iPhone users get annoyed because they lose all the nifty messaging features that they’ve become accustomed to.
There are two obvious solutions here: Apple could embrace RCS, or Apple could open up iMessage to Android. So obviously this problem will never be solved.
integration with the ecosystem. i have a mac, ipad, apple watch, airpods. it’s all so seamless. i can use my watch to ping my phone when i lose it in the blankets even when it’s on silent, i can copy text on one device and paste it on another, all my tab groups are on my computer, phone, and tablet and sync.
i like iOS. i had an ipod touch in the 2010s, so i’ve used it for over 10 years. i’m used to it, i know all the little tricks and shortcuts. i really like how it looks aesthetically.
magsafe. i don’t even use a wireless charger, but i have a magsafe pop socket, and it’s a game changer for me. i have small hands, and a pop socket is very convenient for me, but i don’t like that the regular ones take a lot of effort to remove, and sometimes i want my phone to lay flat, or need to remove the pop socket to put my phone in its dashboard grip. the magsafe pop socket holds strong enough to be effective, but can easily be removed when needed. unlike the pop socket that grips the side of the case, with the magsafe one my phone sits flat instead of wobbling when propped up.
I actually use magsafe with my Pixel 6 Pro. They sell adapters you can put on your case. I recently tried some of my magsafe stuff on a friend’s Iphone and holy crap is it terrible on the Iphone. Not as strong is the only drawback but, it was significantly weaker
interesting! I didn’t know they made those. is it bulky at all? my fiancée uses a pixel 5a, i wonder if she would be interested in that.
i’m curious that you found the iphone magsafe to be weaker, in my opinion it’s just right, strong enough to hold, but not so strong that i struggle to take it off. were you using it directly on the iphone or did the iphone have a case on it? it might not have been a magsafe compatible case. but i’m speculating of course.
Idk it just works and I have the whole ecosystem to support it so why not. I flip flop between Android and iPhone whenever. My previous phone was a Pixel 6 Pro. It really doesn’t matter to me, it’s just about how goofy I feel on the day I decide to buy a phone.
Same. Got an S23U in May, I like it, but I started to miss my iPhone so I popped my sim card back in my 12pro max. Can’t decide if I want to keep using it and get the 15 when it comes out or switch back to my 23U.
