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*Musk has spent days beefing with politicians over the far-right unrest sweeping the UK. *
Elon Musk could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs over X’s role in race riots that have rocked the U.K. over the last week, as well as his own incendiary comments about the violence.
Labour MPs Chi Onwurah and Dawn Butler, who are competing to chair parliament’s science, innovation and technology committee, both told POLITICO they’d press the billionaire X owner and other technology executives to answer questions about the role of social media platforms amid mounting unrest in the U.K.
Musk has spent days beefing with British politicians over the riots, and is locked in a war of words with Prime Minister Keir Starmer over the U.K’s handling of them. Musk on Sunday wrote “civil war is inevitable” in the U.K. and claimed that the response by U.K. police has been “one-sided."
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I was hoping they meant “keel-haul Musk” because I approve this message.
And he will just politely decline.
“Politely” is doubtful. Same guy who told his advertisers to go fuck themselves and now is suing them for not using his platform anymore.
Sarcasm does not translate well in writing… but I refuse to use /s… but yes.
Love it that you’re getting downvoted for this highly controversial comment.
Proof #52895167698 that downvotes shouldn’t even be a thing
Yeah… really hurtful all those negative internet points. I don’t care though. They do serve as sort of a thermometer of the comment. But in this case… it makes me smile.
Oh yeah it’s not like it makes any real difference – although the points may be fake, whether we like it or not people do seem to let them influence how they look at a comment or post. It’s just a bit silly that so many people cling to the idea that downvotes are a valuable tool (apparently we’d be overrun with nazis if we couldn’t downvote things)
Funny thing to me about downvoters is they don’t seem to realize everyone likes to look for the downvoted posts because they’re often the most amusing. There’s a reason “controversial” is one of the first few sorting options.
My hypothesis is they’re mostly the younger people on the platform, trying to rely on peer pressure like this is HS or something, because that’s all they’ve really experienced so far in their lives.
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Nah. Downvotes should exist to show how unpopular radical or extremist views really are. It doesn’t apply here obviously, but I think the reason Meta and Twitter etc. are so negative/toxic is because you can’t discourage that content on popular posts. It just looks like there’s fewer likes.
Many Lemmy instances do just fine without them though, and unpopular extremist views are still unpopular. Frankly that sounds more like a case for moderation than downvotes.
One of the main problems I have with downvotes on Lemmy is that when people browse All, niche communities tend to attract a lot of drive-by downvotes (which is why many instances that host them opted to disable downvotes) that tend to drown out votes by people who are actually in those communities and push the content lower when using a sort that takes votes into account.
Yes there’s all sorts of lofty ideas about how downvotes should be used, and eg people are not “supposed” to downvote things just because they disagree (and no I’m not talking nazism here). Never goes that way in real life.
So far in my time on lemmy, browsing all means I have to block most communities I come across. Not because they’re invalid, usually because I don’t speak the language. It’s simply clutter to me. That being said I really wish there weren’t hundreds of new anime instances every day. It’s getting really old blocking them and thinking you’ve gotten rid of them all, then 15 more pop up. I don’t downvote in either situation, just kind of a sidebar here.
They should. It’s nuts this motherfucker has the influence he does. He’s an actual dipshit who’s only able to do this because he was born into money and failed upwards. He’s a moron with outsized influence. Hold him to account, please.
Let’s fucking go. Drag this fucker Infront of parliament.
Love how this guy’s one of the richest people in the world yet he’s got nothin better to do than fuck with the common folk. Guess he doesn’t get enough attention at home, so here we are watching him stoke racism and stupidity to entertain his pathetic insecure self
Love how this guy’s one of the richest people in the world yet he’s got nothin better to do than fuck with the common folk.
to entertain his pathetic insecure self
To those who have finished watching the first season of Squid Game, this observation is prescient.
Capitalism replaced feudalism; and the new aristocrats are the billionaires.
It’s actually so much simpler than that. He’s tweaked the Twitter algorithm to serve more right wing brain rot for engagement and, being a habitual user, rotted his own fucking brain more and more. He’s indirectly self radicalizing. He’s getting high on his own supply.
At least zuck doesn’t actually use that shithole called Facebook.
DO IT!!!
Promise the protesters you’ll squeeze rich people like Musk and his companies for all they’re worth to solve the issues with housing and NHS to start with.
Why not just block that whole dumpster fire
DO IT YOU FUCKING COWARDS
I think we should strap Elon Musk to one of his rockets & launch him directly into the sun… Or maybe just like a big wall, that might be more entertaining.
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Today in “Stop! I can only get so hard!! 😖😰” news…
Less to the point of the article and more to it’s wording:
Why the fuck do they call it “race riots” as far as I can tell there are a bunch of rioting fascists and then a broad group of people (refugees, local citizens and Antifa) trying to defend places or stop the riots. This is not a black vs white fight this fight is between fascism and anti-fascism (or at least democracy)
Why do you think it’s more fascist or than racist? The political “right” of the UK is incredibly anti-immigrant, you can see that in how they’ve voted for MPs and Brexit. The racial hate is more noticeable towards brown people, i.e. anyone looking anything from Arab to south Asian, there’s even the p-word that comes close (but isnt quite) the equivalent of the n-word.
The word that’s the first four letters of a country’s name is that serious of an insult now?
I’m a yank so I’m pretty out of touch on this but I was under the apparently mistaken impression that it was no more serious than calling an Irishman a mick or a paddy (neither of which are awesome but don’t approach the derogatory ferocity of the T- word for Roman Catholic Irish).
Different countries have different insults, simple as. Calling someone a spook means radically different things on both ends of the Atlantic.
I would advise not doing that in Ireland. Anyway, yes, p*** has a comparable if not so extreme or long history as the n-word in the UK.
Sorry I didn’t mean to imply that the Nazis aren’t racist I definitely know that. For me it’s just a different framing between “There are Race riots” (i.e. riots/fights between racial identies) vs fascist/racists rioting because of their racists reasons (and people fighting them in a (self)defense way. I hope I made clear what I meant.
I see what you mean, thanks. Maybe of interest, the Oxford English dictionary defines a race riot as “a public outbreak of violence due to racial antagonism”, much less specific than your definition which I imagine is America-based, so I think this might be a difference between American and European use of the term.
Most race riots were just group victimization of the minority. See the zoot suit riots where they straight up hunted down brown men and boys, beat them, and undressed them. It didn’t historically imply that the minority was the cause and doesn’t now.
Not from uk, but do you really believe that one person comment or a single criminal event can cause such a mess? It is like saying the troubles were caused by a speech of ian paisley. In uk you have huge examples of revolts/wars between different populations ( irish/english/welsh/scottish ) but this time is a comment the cause… seeing from outside it seems … weird
It’s not his comment but his site purveying it
The troubles were in a period without any social…
And he wasn’t blamed for it
He owns the site. The site is a shit hole of hate and it spreads lies. So yes he should be held accountable.
Any media spread hate against other groups/spread lies. Or you have even read any newspaper in the past 100 years. I read reddit and i read the worst things about adversarial groups any day. Sometime even war crimes apologies, a post was so terrible that could be used as a war crimes proff ( a drone targeting and killing a medical unit doing their work during wartime ). But it is very rare that this kind of speech cause some riots. Ex: never heard of democrats targeting republicans with riots in USA. The strange thing is that russians tell that usa and uk are using the social to promote colored revolutions ( and is x is between them ). So X is an instrument of CIA / MI5 or a russian asset? When the troubles erupted were more simple time.
I’m not understanding your comparison to the Troubles, because Paisley was the lead figure who fuelled the fires of religious hate through his influence, having founded a number of the groups involved in the incidents that kicked off the Troubles.
Maybe it wasn’t a single speech that caused it, but he was very much the face of the loyalist movement for most of his life.
The one of the reasons of the irish hate against the english were the plantations of ulster. Not a single speech. I suppose that you know a little bit of ulster history.
Paisley of course being instrumental in those ‘plantations’ - i just thought it weird to suggest he didn’t start the Troubles, when he pretty much did.
Not to say Musk is comparable - he’s not even close to the main actor here. But he is a public figure who has been using the social media platform he owns to stir up hatred against particular groups of people in the UK. And not just on this occasion, he’s been chiming in for years.
Plantations were far older than paisley and the troubles. The timeline of historical events is numbered in centuries or millenia. Jewish diaspora started 2000 years ago, mediterranean division between religions 1400 years ago. The changes due to mass migration in europe will continue for centuries, changing the shape and the ideology of the nations for a very long time. Some nations will be born, some other will die.
Thanks for your uninformed opinion/question thing. I’ll assume that you are asking in good faith and simply don’t know… much about the UK.
He isn’t the root cause, but he chose to insert himself by encouraging violence when he hasn’t a fucking clue what he’s talking about either…
I don’t think that uk political class too ( as other european countries ) know much about Uk. I have direct experience about “communities” in other european countries, but when the problems erupt, the ruling class flee. I don’t think about a civil war, the situation is more complex than it happears and i think that is very difficult that labour starting seriously to wage war to their voter base. Musk is part of the capitalist globalist elite that is causing all this mess ( like tories ).
You seems surprised and yet Trump has been charged with almost the same thing for inciting the Jan 6th riots.
I doubt they could do it since Musky is a US citizen. I didn’t know the laws for this kind of thing though, so maybe they could with the right kind of legalese?
I guess he can ignore a court summons, but then he can never enter the UK again, which he might want to do at some point.
They have some powers, they got upset at Facebook and decided to flex a bit by sending one of the boys around, to invite one of his mates for a chat.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/24/mps-seize-cache-facebook-internal-papers
The person sent was the serjeant at arms. They carry a sword. Doubt they took it out but they also carry one of the House of Commons maces, which is gold covered and jewel encrusted, about 1.5m (4.9ft) long and weighs roughly 10kg (22 lbs).
Imagine some large, pissed off looking dude, dressed like he’s from the year 1415, kicking your hotel door in because you didn’t RSPV properly. Then being told hand over documents or we may stick you in jail (and you know the pretended it would be the Tower of London).
The 1,000 yard stare he must get when asked if he enjoyed London and how lovely that history must be.
