cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18475086
I’m not against those who work for sex, but the idea to earn for a living doesn’t seem nice. IMO, sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other. My point is money should not be the purpose.
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Sex work is work.
No I don’t approve sex work. Who am I? The sex work administration? Do you need a stamp from me to perform sex work? No?
Then who cares?
Sex work is work.
The people that do it deserve respect, and all the social and legal protections that attach to any other kind of work.
Your own preferred attitude to sex isn’t the point.
But should it be work?
Should we really have a society where selling your body is an opportunity to make money.
For instance, it imply that some poor women are gonna take it regardless the consequence, just because it’s the best alternative to pay the bills.
I can barely tolerate the physical straining we put on some workers. Sex work’s consequences are unacceptable to me in that same sens, sometimes worse.
So sure, no matter your opinion we should respect them, and not incriminate them!
And of course not all sex work is the same… to be acceptable it just requires better conditions. It can’t be something you choose out of need.
For instance, it imply that some poor women are gonna take it regardless the consequence, just because it’s the best alternative to pay the bills.
How is this principally different from a poor person taking any shitty job to pay the bills? Like garbage collector or similarly unpleasant/disrespected jobs. The system always forces poor people to settle for shitty jobs. Sex work is not the issue there, the system is.
It’s different in nature. No other jobs infringe on your intimacy in this way.
I do agree the system is the problem, i also would advocate for better conditions for any difficult jobs.
Therapist, hospice, nursing , sports medicine, massage… a lot of jobs require some level of physical or mental intimacy.
Therapist is another topic, with problems of mental intimacy indeed.
The rest is the patient’s intimacy that you have to deal with. It is a vastly different intimate experience to wash a genitalia and be penetrated. And so, vastly different consequences for your well being.
selling your body
i hate that phrasing to describe sex work. no one is “selling their body”, as they are still in control of it. sex workers provide a service, same as a masseuse or hair stylist (except their service involves genitals) and it should be treated as such.
Otherwise one could argue that all (physical) labour is “selling your body”
It is a high risk job along the lines of coal mining and such, since it will result in an increase in transmitted disease risk. It’s important to acknowledge that, but I am on the side of it being work. I just think we need strong protections in place and regulations to handle it akin to other dangerous jobs. Like, a sex work branch of OSHA.
I think the “body” in that expression is quite specifically referring to genitals, or the selling of your intimacy.
Because that’s what’s different from any other physical labour, the part of your body involved. That’s the specific problem of sex work no?
It’s not even an argument really, it’s the undeniable logical conclusion that trading your labor and/or time for compensation is work, period.
It seems to me like joining the military is arguably more deserving of the phrase “selling your body”; you’re basically signing up to get injured or killed.
Regulations would help, but create their own hurdles.
True and tested.
The best help is probably indirectly having better social policies overall. Although never perfect, the best we are the lesser the problem.
Work is work. It deserves every bit of respect and protection as anything else.
Friend of mine used to be a whore. She says it has been the most fulfilling and fun job she has ever had. She got to meet many interesting people. And she also has a lot of funny stories to tell.
It was also fun for her that she could get tax breaks for underwear and other sexy clothes.
I’ll just respond to your take:
The idea to earn for a living doesn’t seem nice.
For you it doesn’t. For others, mind your own business.
sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other.
For you it should. For others, mind your own business.
money should not be the purpose.
For you it shouldn’t. For others, mind your own business.
If you have any desire at all to weigh in or or take a position on the consensual sex lives of other adults, you’re just revealing how little you respect the freedom and autonomy of other people. You’re just revealing your desire to control others.
Pretty much perfect answer right here. This is downright encyclopedic.
No, I don’t approve of any work. All work should be abolished, including sex work.
If you want the benefits of society you must contribute. Put your money where your mouth is and go start a hippy commune somewhere.
Work as much or as little as you like! Benefit from the fruits of your own labor! Don’t ask for a steel ax or nylon tent though. Such goods require an industrial society.
Yes, all work should be crime. Thanks dad
At this point I’m thinking we should legalize prostitution and criminalize dating.
Dating these days is what prostitution would be if it was published by EA. They added gambling mechanics and season passes.
You do know you don’t need a dating app for dating, right?
Who said anything about apps?
I probably misunderstood you. What did you mean by “They added gambling mechanics and season passes.”?
Okay, let’s put it this way:
Head out to Nevada, walk into one of the brothels they got outside Las Vegas. “One sex act, please.” “That will be number of dollars.” “Here is that number of dollars.” “Here is your sex act, and your receipt.” “Thank you, have a nice day.”
Meanwhile, go wherever it is you think you can meet women. Avoid female coworkers. Meet a girl at a bar and she actually gives you her number, what’s the chance she ghosts you after 5 or 6 of the expensive dinner dates she demands you take her on?
I reiterate, dating is like prostitution as published by EA.
Losers of the world unite! All women must be trafficked!
I don’t think this is how dating works. What you describe is just looking for a quick sexual partner, for which prostitution can be more suitable. Dating is about relationships not just about sex, right? You won’t get that by taking a number from a random girl in a bar. The easiest way for dating is to make friends first, a nice friend group or two with both men and women, based on shared interests, compatible personalities… Friend groups allow for meeting more people of your kind (friends of friends) and create a prefiltered pool of people where it’s much easier to find a partner for a serious relationship. Quite different from prostitution.
I don’t think this is how dating works.
lmao, you are so close to understanding what is being said to you, yet clearly so far away…
Ok, so if I’m close, why don’t you explain instead of lyao.
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no such thing.
sounds like a you problem… banning it for everyone else is not the answer
Prostitution is legal here. Where are you?
The majority of the United States.
A very small portion of the world
casually glances around the third largest nation on earth yeah. So tiny.
All workers deserve respect. Labor is our means for survival in the modern world, the base good everyone trades for their livelihood.
Regardless of the type of work, all workers deserve respect. Ya gotta eat.
It have side effects on the people who do it: yes, I don’t give a flying fuck about it: yes
I personally don’t see anything wrong with it, unless it’s forced, which is unfortunately common here.
I think George said it best.
If someone is willing to do something I don’t want to do and get paid for it, yea, I think it’s work.
Yes.
If they hurt no one else and infringe on no one else’s rights I have no business policing what two consenting adults do with their bodies, time and/or money.
Edit: it should also be totally legal, like all drugs.
If it is strictly voluntary, it is a work If it is forced for any reason, obviously not.
honestly if my body was anything else, I would try an OF or similar.
