The agency wants to lower how much salt we consume over the next three years to an average of 2,750 milligrams per day. That’s still above the recommended limit of 2,300 mg.

The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday laid out fresh goals to cut sodium levels in packaged and processed foods  by about 20%, after its prior efforts to address a growing epidemic of diet-related chronic diseases showed early signs of success.

The FDA in October 2021 had set guidelines to trim sodium levels in foods ranging from potato chips to hamburgers in a bid to prevent excessive intake of salt that can trigger high blood pressure, a major risk factor for heart disease and stroke.

The agency is now seeking voluntary curbs from packaged-food makers such as PepsiCo, Kraft Heinz and Campbell Soup. The companies did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

  • @[email protected]
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    39 months ago

    This is so dumb. You can’t fix this problem at the packaging level. You have to convince people to eat less, or eat smarter.

    • @[email protected]
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      59 months ago

      You definitively can fix many things at the product level

      Food in Europe is generally less bad for you due to regulations

  • @[email protected]
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    169 months ago

    Is this going to turn into conservatives freaking out and just eating salt shakers to prove how not-woke they are?

    It’s really annoying how every attempt to make things better seems to be met with “fuck you I refuse to acknowledge anything beyond my short term comfort”

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      49 months ago

      Some streamer should go with that and see if we can make it a thing! Conservatives will be so busy trying to figure out their high blood pressure, they’ll forget to vote to make everyone suffer

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      49 months ago

      The only downside I see is the hospital resources they’ll take up while dying of complications from high blood pressure.

  • @[email protected]
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    139 months ago

    Who cares about sodium, can we get rid of high fructose corn syrup? I mean reducing sodium sounds good, but it’s not even on the same playing field

    • @[email protected]
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      29 months ago

      Also stuff like sodium nitrate and other fantastic chemicals that make food last for 100’s of years

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        How else are we gonna ensure a stable supply of post-fallout Mac & Cheese, InstaMash, Salisbury Steak, and Cheezy Poofs?

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    329 months ago

    Thats great, but can we do high fructose corn syrup next? That shit is just evil on multiple levels.

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    409 months ago

    As someone who has always been on a low-sodium diet, but who nonetheless has a hankering for processed food, thank fuck.

    Everything has become so ridiculously salty, if you aren’t already used to the salt, that it’s largely inedible. It would otherwise be really good, but holy shit.

    If we can get people consuming less salt in some places, they will want less in other places as well, maybe food as a whole will be less salty… that would be a win in every single way for everyone. Everyone who regularly eats with me tends to want less salt in their food overall as a result, so I know it works, and it doesn’t even take that long.

    • Rev. Layle
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      59 months ago

      NO

      (As I devour half a bag of family sized Lays)

      NOT ME

    • @[email protected]
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      29 months ago

      Remember that the aggregate across food sources is the problem. You’re getting too much from all over. This is at least a step towards fixing the bigger problem.

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    239 months ago

    I like chips and guac, but every time I go to the store and the low sodium chips are out of stock…I don’t buy chips.

    Once you get used to it the regular ones are disgustingly salty.

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      For sure, and my grocery is frequently out of their fresh pico de gallo, trying to push me to buy their ketchuppy sugar-filled “salsa” with infinite shelf life

      I also don’t buy chips

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      39 months ago

      Casa Sanchez (if available in your area) makes great tortilla chips that are noticably lower in salt than other brands. They aren’t marketed as low sodium, but because they aren’t super coated in salt like, for example Tostitos, it’s the only brand I buy. They also taste way better imo

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      69 months ago

      I grew up in a low salt household and now I’m extremely sensitive to salts, so most chips are a no-go for me

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      39 months ago

      I’ve been raising the cocoa % on the chocolates I buy and I’m on 80% now. I had a regular bar recently that was gifted to me and I could barely take a bite because it was so excessively sugary. Unfortunately I can’t go any higher than 80% as it is not sold here (expensive imports only) but I definitely would if I could, and honestly I would recommend anyone to try this starting at 40%.

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    19 months ago

    Do we already know what manufacturers would replace it with to maintain flavour? Eg in the past when manufacturers had to cut down on fat, they’ve replaced it with sugar and hydrogenated oils?

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      59 months ago

      Mostly potassium salt, although with some other recipe changes to account for the different flavor.

      The good news is that potassium is well understood nutritionally. Most Americans do not get enough of it. To a first approximation, it is anti-sodium health wise, so it is a double win in that it both reduces sodium intake, and counters the effect of a still high sodium intake.

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      39 months ago

      Food? Maybe their product doesn’t need to be addictive but can instead include a higher percentage of food ingredients

      • @[email protected]
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        39 months ago

        That’s certainly a possibility, but I’m not sure it’s the most likely one in America, so I’d like to better understand the consequences

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      a former coworker sat and tried to convince me that sugar is neither bad for you nor addictive. the sugar lobby psychological manipulation propaganda machine is the behemoth that has to be dismantled before any meaningful change can even be attempted

      this coworker was an instructional academic librarian who included confirmation bias and how to avoid it in her teaching

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        279 months ago

        Sugar is NOT bad for you. Too much of anything is what’s bad.

        Drinking too much water can kill you.

        • @[email protected]
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          179 months ago

          Yeah except that every can of coke is too much, and most people don’t have a problem with water addiction

        • Sippy Cup
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          69 months ago

          That’s like saying arsenic isn’t bad for you, but too much is.

          Sugar is indeed bad for you. Like any refined carbohydrate.

          Too much sugar as it happens is an insanely small amount. Most people have had too much sugar before they’ve left the house in the morning.

          We need carbohydrates, but as it happens we only need a little and we can get everything we need from a few servings of green vegetables.

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              39 months ago

              Huh. TIL.

              Lead? Heroin?

              I stand by my point, refined sugar isn’t even arguably good for you. A handful of jolly ranchers won’t kill you but it’s not a good source of carbohydrates.

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                49 months ago

                No arguing about it. You need sugar to live. You should be getting it alongside other nutrients in regular food.

                You don’t need soda to live. Empty calories are what’s bad.

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                  You need some carbohydrates.

                  In no universe do you need refined sugar. You absolutely don’t need hundreds of grams of carbohydrates a day. Your body needs less than 100 grams a day and that’s being generous.

                  You can literally get all the carbohydrates your body needs from green vegetables or a single piece of fruit.

        • @[email protected]
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          379 months ago

          yea, the whole “everything is bad for you if you do enough of it to kill yourself!” is a pretty common response. and yes, that’s true. there IS a threshold for everything. one cigarette won’t kill you either.

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            189 months ago

            Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

            Sugar is arguably good for you in moderation. We evolved to seek out sugar in the form of fruits, berries, etc. Quick energy, fast acting carbohydrates etc.

            Can’t think of how this translates to a single cigarette lol.

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              69 months ago

              Nicotine helps with neural degeneration and things like dementia and alzheimers.

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              79 months ago

              We evolved to seek out sugar because it is energy dense in a time when food wasn’t plentiful

              Today we have more food than we know what to do with

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              39 months ago

              I think you’re conflating natural occurring sugars to manmade sugars.

              The natural sugars in fruits is okay. Adding 75-80% of the daily value of man made added sugars to ONE drink are what we are talking about.

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              99 months ago

              Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

              why not? if you’re going by “too much of anything is bad for you,” then doesn’t it follow that “NOT too much of anything isn’t necessarily bad for you”?

              so yea, one soda won’t kill you = true. also one cigarette won’t kill you = true.

              what i’m getting at is that your “argument” isn’t one

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              229 months ago

              “In moderation” being the key part. As in, not selling drinks and snacks that are like 30% sugar

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                119 months ago

                Agree 100%. And arguably “in moderation” is much lower than people might want it to be. Plus most of this stuff is processed with high fructose corn syrup trash.

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                29 months ago

                As in, not selling drinks and snacks that are like 30% sugar

                On the flip side, those snacks and drinks are ideal for athletes.

                I wouldn’t want to stop having those foods available, simply because the majority of the population are idiots when it comes to fueling their bodies.

                People need to have some self control, ffs.

          • @[email protected]
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            39 months ago

            one cigarette won’t kill you either.

            Interesting. The fearmongers at school told us it could.

      • teft
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        339 months ago

        Fats aren’t bad for you like sodium and sugars are.

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          99 months ago

          Sodium and sugar are not “bad” for you. Sodiums/salts are arguably an absolute necessity for brain function lol (electrolytes). It’s the too much that is the bad part. There’s natural sugar in fruits and stuff, which you already know. Blanket statements like “sugar is bad” are dumb.

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            159 months ago

            Maybe if the issue wasn’t soo widespread, but the manufactured over abundance has tipped the scales enough that simple statements of sugar/sodium being bad for you (even if not entirely correct) are a step in the right direction.

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              69 months ago

              No, you are wrong and so is your ridiculous statement.

              even if not entirely correct

              It’s not that it’s “not entirely correct”, it’s entirely incorrect. Full stop.

              We evolved to seek out sugar. Originally in the form of fruits and berries and whatnot, as its an efficient fast acting carbohydrate for quick energy. It is good for you. Period.

              Over consumption due to over abundance and the capitalist profit motive not giving a shit about the consequences on people’s health, because muh profits, is why people eat to much of it.

              Your solution is to blatantly lie, which is dumb and wrong. Lying is not a step in the right direction ever.

              Educate people, and hold capitalists accountable, in the form of violent regulation. You ain’t gonna do that cuz you have no power and never will. Lying is dumb. Sugar is good for you in moderation.

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                139 months ago

                Yeah because searching for berries all day is exhausting, ordering a pizza and 2l of coke is not you muppet.

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                  39 months ago

                  But that doesn’t make sugar bad. It makes too much sugar bad, which seems to be what they were saying. Albeit, ineloquently. **Insert thought terminating insult.

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        29 months ago

        Now that trans fats are gone, the best way to improve fats is you can’t just add sugar and call it low fat.

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    429 months ago

    I feel like I recall a story about a chip company that slowly reduced their salt content by like 50% over a number of years and literally no one noticed or complained.

    I definitely saw another story about how they were researching pyramid-shaped salt crystals because they have higher surface area to volume, and with cuboid salt you wind up swallowing it before the whole thing even dissolves, so you’re not even getting a theoretical flavor experience, it’s just going straight into your gut.

    We eat too much salt. It’s absurd.

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      259 months ago

      Salt is not an issue if you’re healthy and drink enough water. Our problem is we’re not healthy and don’t drink enough water…we eat chips and drink coke with it.

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        I’d caveat it’s not unhealthy if you sweat a lot, drink lots of water, AND consume a level of dietary potassium 2x that of your sodium intake, which pretty much nobody is. (and disclaimer I’m no doctor).

        Sodium and potassium work together with opposite functions via the sodium-potassium pump. Too much salt leads to water retention within cells. That’s the best case scenario so long as you’re drinking lots of water. Too much salt absent of potassium will send blood pressure up due to vasoconstriction.

        Potassium helps the body regulate fluid retention and helps to concentrate urine while helping with vasodilation of blood vessels (among many other important functions).

        Just learning all this as I’ve taken a deep-dive on this stuff for my own health as well as my mom’s.

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          I’ve read this a lot but have no idea how to increase potassium. There’s only so many bananas you can eat and clearly one every day is not enough

          Even if there’s a salt substitute with potassium, I’m not sure the point when there’s no problem with salt you intentionally add. Especially since I rarely do

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            59 months ago

            Getting large amounts of potassium is definitely tough, and for me it basically comes down to eating a lot of green salads, potato, banana, and coconut water.

            I confess I’ll also add some potassium citrate to my water here and there to get a little more. But I don’t advise that unless you know what you’re doing.

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        39 months ago

        I drink like 8L of water a day, run four days a week, but I am confident that Ruffles are going to be the death of me, they’re just too good to care about the years at the end of my life.