Apologies for the slightly off-topic post…
It’s not looking good, folks…
George R R Martin confirms he hasn’t written anything for the 2 remaining A Song Of Ice And Fire books since 2022.
He wishes that they were finished.
The last published book in the series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011, now 13 years ago.
Obligatory song that’s now 12 years old… https://youtu.be/j7lp3RhzfgI
Is this community ok with confusing fantasy and science fiction? I thought it was a snob librarian’s thing.
I know some stories mix both, but I don’t think ASOIAF has anything to do with sf.snob librarian’s thing
And I couldn’t figure out why a certain pirate streaming platform does this. I choose scifi category, and it’s filled with fantasy and anime… Your comment might be a clue as to who’s behind the platform. A ring of radical outlaw librarians!
Sci-fi and fantasy are traditionally considered a lower form of fiction/literature which is why the sometimes get lumped together.
Martin was mostly a Sci Fi author before ASOIAF. Still is, seemingly.
I sometimes go months or years before picking a project back up, so I can relate.
You think the ending of the show sucked? Imagine how he felt watching that shit.
The reason he hasn’t finished (or isn’t even trying any more) is because he’s written himself into a corner. There are a lot of loose ends and parts that don’t make sense, and that’s not even counting the parts that the show left out!
He probably felt dread, because he was probably hoping that they’d fix some of the mistakes he made, and make writing the book simpler.
He fucked himself over by not having the time skip.
He probably couldn’t see the tv due to the big pile of money sitting between him and the screen covering his view.
I think he was fine with it, watching from his hot tub filled with money.
I would suggest that it was the broad outline of the same ending he planned and shared with DnD just implemented badly. He’s probably more pissed that they made his ending so unpopular by completely botching the landing as he now can’t use that same ending without risk of rejection. I still maintain it would have sucked as an ending even if it had been implemented at the same standard as series 5, but what we got made it far far worse.
Yeah, he basically spoiled the ending with the tv show and now he needs to come up with a new one. Not that he actually will. He’ll never finish the series
I’d be happy if he did the same ending again, just with his characteristically excellent writing
I understand, it would probably make sense narratively, but he would receive a lot of backslash.
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Apparently being constrained by deadlines turned him into a procrastinating, spineless teenager.
Be honest, do you think he’s worked on them at all since the show started?
He may have done a chapter, maybe two since then? That’s probably it, though.
He has no intention of finishing, especially now that the show is done and people are left with negativity surrounding the ending. It’s the worst possible situation for him, because even if he wanted to finish the books there’s just no way he can do it.
IMO, the best thing he can do is acknowledge this, and draw a line in it. Either hand it off to a protégé or writer friend that is happy to continue the story, or outright say that ASOIAF is done.
Or just hire a ghost writer. Nobody needs to know and even if it comes out, nobody would care.
Yea I gave up on it too…
I gave up about a decade ago. It just relief accepting the fact the it’s never gonna be completed.
If I were grrm I would hire the last seasons writers to help me finish the books. Ultimate troll.
You can’t say “I wish they were done” and on the other hand include in his will that the manuscripts be destroyed if he dies and can’t be finished by anyone else.
He had pretty bad experiences with people finishing his ideas
Maybe he realized they’re bad.
Honestly, what a piece of shit.
Relax, it’s just a book.
What a coincidence, I haven’t thought about reading a book from GRRM since May 2019
at this point this is a HL3 situation and it’s better if he never finishes the series. it will never live up to expectations. leave it be. if you enjoyed the story so far, celebrate that and move on. it’s about the journey, not the destination.
He’s never finishing the series. He’s going to be 76 in a month, he still has probably most of Winds to finish after 13 years, the math doesn’t work out to getting A Dream of Spring, let along the fact that this story is way too big to satisfactorily conclude in 2 books at this point, and even if it could be done it would be complex and difficult and take longer than usual.
I’m irrationally still hopeful we get Winds. But that is it.
Him and Patrick Rothfuss need a writing camp or something.
🎵 We are never, ever, ever getting A Song of Ice & Fire ♪
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Bah don’t be such a hater. The written story so far is so freaking good that even if he never finishes it i’m quite happy to have read it.
It’s been so many years that I can’t imagine picking it back up and continuing to write anyway.
