• @[email protected]
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    48 months ago

    Yeah… I’m surprised by how commonly people repost this everywhere.

    If you want to include them, they can also sit across from the bench… Or next to it

  • JackbyDev
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    38 months ago

    So, I like the idea of trying to make wheel chair users be included, I do, but this doesn’t actually do anything for them. If it had a little table or something similar then at least they could argue that it might help them despite being obvious hostile design. But no. It’s just ✨accessible✨.

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)
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      And the backing will keep wheelchairs with handles from backing in fully.

      It’s purely anti-homeless masquerading as social awareness. Disgusting and the product of a sick mind.

  • @[email protected]
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    78 months ago

    Just freaking make single chairs. Stop making weird benches. If you want a bench, make a bench. Someone might lay on it. If you don’t want a bench, Christ on a cracker, don’t make a weird bench! Just make chairs!

  • KillingTimeItself
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    148 months ago

    this is what we call, excessively stupid design.

    It could be both disability accessible, and just, a fucking bench, because benches have always been accessibility enabled, because they’re fucking benches.

  • @[email protected]
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    I dunno why y’all WANT park benches to become homeless beds and parks to become encampments. I come from a country with shanty towns that used to be parks and that shit is not the answer. Anyone who feels benches should be for sleeping homeless is free to let them sleep in their yard, or open their homes and let a few crash Inn their living room. But I know they won’t.

    • TheOneCurly
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      118 months ago

      Maybe we could use all the time, effort, and money spent on hostile architecture on shelter. Instead we throw resources into park benches that suck at being benches.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        This is a nonsense take. We want park benches. We can’t just redirect money for park benches to shelter. Cities aren’t spending a bunch of money developing these things. Someone already designed it and they just pick it from the available options.

        Besides I’d be willing to bet this is another art instalation, like the other 20 times Lemmy got it’s knickers in a twist about a bench.

    • @[email protected]
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      I want homeless people to have a place even if our society can’t provide proper ones, yes.

    • @[email protected]
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      38 months ago

      No, what we want is benches. And for people to not sleep on them because they have somewhere better to sleep

      Hostile architecture isn’t hostile to the homeless. It’s hostile to humans, the goal is to make it uncomfortable to be there

    • @[email protected]
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      I WANT everyone to be taxed to provide basic, ventilated, plumbed, string free shelter for the fellow citizens and human beings we failed the most. Their situation is our national shame and responsibility, same with our largest on earth prison population, and not even per capita. That’s on all of us, despite the fact most of us shitbag twist it into being their faults when it isn’t a problem in the developed world that cares about what matters like quality education, actual rehabilitation, and mental Healthcare for all.

      Not letting them sleep in my bed is not the same thing as someone bitching about human beings dying of exposure and police harassment in our name despite our gold plated shithole’s self-bragging prosperity and generosity because herp derp those PEOPLE threaten my PROPERTY VALUES.

      That kind of thinking is sociopathic. We aren’t Haiti, we have resources. We just choose to use them to further enrich the significant capital hoarders and brainstorm new and exciting ways to murder people at scale thousands of miles away. You know, to throw on the pile and sell to other nations. That’s the one thing we’re good at, mass murder exports.

    • @[email protected]
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      They do, though. Most tables don’t sport the room underneath to allow a wheelchair, this if one goes out for dining, one needs to transfer to a regular chair.

      If possible ofc, but it sincerely limits the scope of restaurants you can visit if you can’t switch seats.

      • @[email protected]
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        88 months ago

        i always wondered why the arms of wheelchairs weren’t adjustable/removable. It seems like it would be a smart thing to implement. I can move my office chair arms up and down, forward and backwards, i even have about 30° of rotation available

        • @[email protected]
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          48 months ago

          Can you put boxes of pounds of force on your office chair’s adjustable arm along different vectors without it moving as you use it to get in and out of the chair without your legs?

    • @[email protected]
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      358 months ago

      You know what wheelchair users also sometimes like to do in the middle of a long day?

      Fucking lie down.

    • @[email protected]
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      768 months ago

      No, you see, it’s not a full chair, just the backrest. Just in case their wheelchair backrest needs to rest.

      • @[email protected]
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        Oh, and here i was thinking they found a way to cut costs on wheelchairs by removing the backs – necessitating these backless-wheelchair-accessible-wheelchair-backs for those that need to give their backs a break.

        • @[email protected]
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          Backless and low back wheelchairs are definitely a thing, though fortunately not for cost savings, but for better mobility for the user.

          If you have really good T-spine mobility and control, it can sometimes be beneficial to get rid of the back of your chair, giving you more range to twist, turn, and lean from the hips.

          With enough upper body strength, If you go for a lightweight no back chair with tip wheels, strap in, and get some durable gloves, you can even do full cartwheels in a wheelchair.

          Obviously whether a backless chair is appropriate is very individual and a physiotherapist and occupational therapist will need to help assess.

  • @[email protected]
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    298 months ago

    A wheelchair’s backrest does not have zero depth, so with this design the rollchair user has to sit slightly in front of the people on the left and right. Utter shit.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    48 months ago

    Sometimes the dumbest things are done by thoughtful people “Just trying to help”

  • baduhai
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    258 months ago

    This feels like a disguised way to not let people sleep on the bench.