Notice there is only 1 full headline (from /r/NoStupidQuestions) visible, it doesn’t even show the full post. There are 3 of those “trending” boxes but only 2 of those even fit their headlines because they are like 3 words long, they cut off anything longer including the description
I originally became addicted to Reddit because of how streamlined it was to skim dozens of headlines and pick from lots of content, seems they have decided content is not something they want to provide anymore :/
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The fact that crypto is listed on the side makes me wanna bump my head on the wall.
The whole thing in general looks like a mobile app stretched to fit on a monitor. I mean, that’s how most websites are in 2023.
funnily enough, it literally fucking is, this was originaly their mobile site.
A lot of apps are also just web wrappers for a mobile site… It’s obvious with some apps, others are a bit harder to see, but it’s there.
Low effort app developing.
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Mandatory Website Obesity Crisis mention, TL;DR:
Some kind of brain parasite infected designers back when the iPad came out, and they haven’t recovered. Everything now has to look like a touchscreen.
My gripe with this design aesthetic is the loss of information density. I’m an adult human being sitting at a large display, with a mouse and keyboard. I deserve better. Not every interface should be designed for someone surfing the web from their toilet.
It’s like we woke up one morning in 2008 to find that our Lego had all turned to Duplo. Sites that used to show useful data now look like cartoons. Interface elements are big and chunky. Any hint of complexity has been pushed deep into some sub-hamburger. Sites target novice users on touchscreens at everyone else’s expense.
I shouldn’t need sled dogs and pemmican to navigate your visual design.
That’s not a mobile first principal. Mobile first design and development includes progressive enhancement as the viewport grows. You can make a website that operates perfectly on mobile and desktop. These fucks just don’t actually adhere to any philosophies or standards. Don’t blame mobile first, which is a brilliant approach, for the shortcomings of a dumb-ass company like Reddit.
It’s called “responsive design” i think. I played around with it a bit when learning html years ago. You can get free website templates that have this cooked in - like, you don’t need to code anything. Seems easy to do and pretty much an industry standard now. Pretty weird that reddit would choose a trashy option instead.
Yeah I used bootstrap for building some websites almost a decade ago now, and I used responsive design. You could have the website in a small browser window and it’d appear as the mobile version with a navbar at the top. As you drag the window wider it slowly morphed into the desktop version.
So much white space…so many frames…so much waste…I can’t look away…it’s whispering to me …
Responsive design is approach you can use as part of your mobile first development. There are others, but responsive is a good one.
Legit thought you were on YouTube.
It looks like a news site from 2012, and it actually looks like it’s trying to imitate digg lol
Seriously me too!! I was paying more attention to the TV show I was watching and was wondering what was so remarkable about the same old YouTube layout. I had to wait for it to end to really look at the picture DAYUMN it looks like YouTube. Wtf reddit what a weird thing to copy
Almost like when they replaced the reddit app with one that looked just like Instagram. Reddit has no originality I guess.
Fuck Reddit and all, but old.reddit.com if you MUST go there.
I wonder how long it’ll be until they shut down old reddit.
that looks like youtube. is that how non old.reddit looks like?
JFC that’s hilariously hideous. Well done spez you fucking wank stain
Super dumb question, is it possible to switch UI’s on reddit? I think on lemmy is (?) 😗
yeah there are three uis:
- sh.reddit.com - default for logged off users, mostly works without js, uses simpler pagination system then new reddit.
- new.reddit.com - the most bloated one, painfully slow, tracks your every move even with ublock, only accessible for logged in users after the recent update
- old.reddit.com - good ol’ old reddit ui, don’t really like it but it’s… bearable unlike new reddit (loads instantly). With some CSS userstyles and scripts it’s still usable…
Than*
You can still use the old UI, by adding old to the reddit link: old.reddit.com
That feature will probably be gone soon tho
Thanks!!
There are some browser extensions that can do this for you.
Old Reddit Redirect is one I found with a quick search. Also available for Firefox. (I can’t remember which extension I use)
or just disable new reddit from old reddit settings, that redirects all regular reddit.com/ reqests to old reddit
That requires actually needing an account.
That’s not how limits work, good day.
dude thinks he disproves mathematics before checking his work
As someone who used the site for almost as long (don’t know the exact length) how is this just now the thing that bothers you? Reddit has been consistently declining in quality for at least 6 years now if not even longer. What year did they stop showing the upvote and downvote count? That was the first in what became a long line of quality downgrades
We used 3th party apps that still had all those features and didnt look like shit hehe
I hear you. I’m sure that helped a lot, but also policy changes and just in general content also declined quite a bit. The overall “vibe” of the site and user…IMO anyway
I read this as “As a 14 year old user” and thought that was an impressive Fisher Price reference for a 14 year old lol
LOL I originally did draft it that way when I was submitting, but changed it so it didn’t sound like I was 14!
Digg redesign vibes
That was my first thought as well
The day that digg launched that new design was the last day I ever logged into that site. Why do people fuck up things that work?
Why do people fuck up things that work?
Depends on what you mean by “work”. If by “work” you mean is enjoyable to use, I understand. If by “work” you mean sustains a business, then no.
It obviously is a sustainable business. What they want to do is fatten the cow before slaughter
It’s obviously not. Because they’ve been reporting losses since it’s inception.
The more I think about it. I think you’re right. No more 0% loans so cheap debt is hard and interest starts accruing.
Yeah, but only because Reddit wants to become more than they are! All the coins, nfts (yes, they already sell them), useless functions and redesigns they implemented over the years, while simultaneously giving a shit about what made Reddit useful and interesting. They had a chance to be better than the rest and give us (and by that I mean user who used Reddit often) a way to pay for what we liked but more and more they pushed people like me away with all the convoluted and microtransactiony way to spend money.
Eh, whatever. I like it here better now!
They had a chance to be better than the rest and give us…a way to pay for what we liked
You wouldn’t have paid. No one would have paid. It’s as simple as that. People are happy to pay with their data and their attention, but not with their money, which is why they forced everyone onto their first-party app where they can mine your data and push notifications to keep you engaged, all while ensuring you’re forced to look at their ads.
Not to mention charging AI companies money to mine the information you’ve contributed to their platform that they were previously bypassing via the API.
You wouldn’t have paid
Eh, I don’t pay for Tv or have a lot of subscriptions but I actually pay for YouTube premium because there are channels I follow for more than ten years at this point. And because I know that some of this money goes to the creators (not all, I know) I feel like it’s money well spent for content I actually enjoy. So, with all that said: if Reddit would have given me an option to pay a reasonable amount to browse it on an app of my choice I am pretty sure I would have done that, because some of content and communities were also a part of my life for way longer than ten years.
I can kinda see where you are coming from, though. Not enough people would have paid the way I would have done. People like free stuff. I do too.
Designers want to get promoted, or get good bonuses for having impact. Product Managers are similarly incentivized to make changes, to improve some metric that they believe helps their business. If these structures exist, and the people making changes don’t understand what the users want, or their incentives are misaligned… it’s inevitable
“Promoted to the level of incompetence”
They had an impact alright.
This makes me think of Microsoft. I get the impression it’s a software and technology company run by suits who are completely detached from end users and every decision is made purely from pie charts, analytics with no nuances included and designers itching to be promoted whispering in their ear.
So many things that worked perfectly - things people have learned where they are and how to use them for decades get changed for apparently no other reason than just to change them and a constant push to redesign everything into a path towards using one of their new services that already has better existing external services people were quite happy using.
Like if your product is good and works don’t start a new product then start changing the original product solely to integrate the new product. That’s bad for the existing users and customers.
It just seems like a constant thing with them that always leads back to squeezing more data and money out of users at the detriment to everything else then gaslighting users by using phrases like “improved user experience”
I actually just scrolled down some more after writing all this and there’s a good comment with some of they whys on what I was saying
Things that work aren’t profitable (enough). A thing that works is good for expanding customer base. A thing that almost works is good for profit per customer base. The thing is… A thing that works and is sustainable to maintain provides the most long term profits. There’s no legal requirement a company grow in scope, but most investors (both in small and large companies) see that as the only way. Reddit has been operating on an unsustainable business model. Their core feature set is simple. Their userbase was loyal, and willing to pay for Reddit gold to directly keep the website running. The holes in their sustainability were a huge staff to develop features to grow their customer base despite no one wanting or asking for those features, a terrible ad model that left money on the table by not putting ads where they’d have the most effect (why did I always get Ford ads on r/FuckCars, never Taco Bell ads on r/ShittyFoodPorn, no small online stationary shops on r/FountainPens?) and not returning ads in API calls, and finally an API model that went from free to impossible to justify overnight. But no one on the board of directors is interested in a business that consistently makes money over the long term. They want to make as much money as possible all in one go.
Let me ask you this. Which is better? To run a small coffee roaster that employs 8 people and serves coffee through one physical shop and one online store front to a loyal fan base by serving a high quality product in small batches, or to be massive coffee company, shadowed in scale only by Starbucks and Peets, but going into bankruptcy because you can’t keep up with Starbucks and Peets? I’d take the consistent sustainable business every time, but too many people want to be the big winner with the bankrupt company, and the result is the small investors, the ones who bought into the big coffee company, or Reddit, end up holding the bag while the people who took their money deploy their golden parachutes
Your example of Reddit’s evolution underscores the challenges that companies face when striving to balance the demands of expansion, customer satisfaction, and financial stability. As companies grow, there’s often a temptation to introduce new features, expand into new markets, or chase the latest trends, even if these decisions may not align with the core needs and desires of their customer base. This can lead to inefficiencies, overspending, and sometimes even a dilution of the very qualities that made the company popular in the first place.
How profitable did Digg get? It’s definitely a tight rope and the fact that we’re discussing this on Lemmy is a testament to how a lot of the user base feels now.
Great insight
Yep, same here.
Why does this image remind me of Quora?
Oh dear god, we don’t need two Quoras!
UI is the smallest of all problem about Reddit right now
Which is saying a lot given that the UI is atrocious
LOL. They went full Digg. I abandoned Digg for Reddit, and now Reddit for Lemmy.
I went 4chan, Imgur, Reddit, Squabblr, and now Lemmy. Been a hell of a ride
Same here, oh well
Same here
Samezies
Same. Bonus, I also abandoned Fark for Digg.
This is the third time I’ve watched a fantastic service shit it’s pants in public.
same. slashdot to digg, digg to reddit, now reddit to lemmy.
I skipped the digging part of that, thank God.
Before Slashdot was Yahoo though. Remember when it was a basic search engine, then they made it “your home on the internet” or some shit and homepage was cluttered? This is what reddit reminds me of
Usenet to digg, digg to reddit, reddit to lemmy.
Oh, I never stopped using usenet 😅
Wait, that’s the front page? At first I thought it was an individual post page and the complaint was more about all the things surrounding the post. Instead, they take up almost the entire screen to show a single post?
yes, that’s the plain vanilla logged out experience of reddit.com w/ a private browsing window
