Just in case you thought this was only a Florida problem.
“Sir, it says here that your son Michael wants to be called Mike, is that correct?”
“Close, but no. You have to pronounce it Miiiiiiiike or I’ll consider it disrespectful to him”
Ah, like the band Miiike Snow
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Get involved in local politics. Vote in every city, county and state election. When that fails. Well…
This is good advice. You can make a much bigger splash in local politics. Vote. Get educated on local issues. Become an activist. Run for office. Get involved in local community groups. There’s only so much your typical individual can do towards national or even state politics, but local involvement is much more impactful.
There’s a saying, that the states are the laboratories of democracy. There’s often this push to make big scale reforms at the national level, and in some cases that is the right thing. But Congress is perpetually gridlocked. Often it’s better to build from the state, county, and local level to fine tune a reform and prove to the country that it is a good idea. Take ranked choice voting. Some states and localities are slowly adopting it without needing permission from Congress.
To be fair, Indiana basically is Florida, just minus a few alligators.
There’s a reason it’s called “the northern most southern state”.
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Pretty sure that’s rural Maine.
it’s rural everywhere
Those of us who have little choice but to live here call it “The Middle Finger of the South”
The party of small government.
Indiana, Mike Pence’s Florida
It’d be a real shame if all the students who aren’t on board with the intent of that law were to request a different name/pronoun at every opportunity to tie up school personnel with notification paperwork (since HB 1608 Full text, PDF specifies that the notification is to be done in writing). Certainly hope they don’t do that or administrators might start complaining to elected officials.
Man I would be requesting a new nickname daily…
“I feel like a ‘Dickhead’ today. Can you please process the formal request for that to be my nickname?”
No, I was Bustopher Jones yesterday. Today, I am Jennyanydots.
You think administrators are going to be doing this? That’s cute. It would be making teachers’ lives horrible. Republicans would be thanking you for driving them insane, making their lives worse, and making them think about quitting so they can continue to take public education funding for private charter schools.
I think there are ways to make shit roll uphill and teenagers are relentless when they find a way to make somebody else miserable.
Not in states without adequate union representation, AKA most red states.
Crippling public schools with meaningless busu work is a happy side affect for the people that came up with these laws. There has been a GOP led war on oublic education for the past 30 years
Shit like this happens when the people directly affected by it are prevented by law from voting to protect their own interests. It’s easy to target people who are routinely denied their right to remove your ass from office for it.
Lower the voting age to 6
There’s no stupid thing a kid could do in the voting booth that old people don’t already do regularly.
When I was 7, in 1984, the school held a mock election. I voted for John Glenn because he was an astronaut and astronauts are cool. Jesse Jackson won because I don’t know why, but maybe lowering the voting age to 6 might not work out.
A new Indiana law that requires parents to be notified of students’ name changes, including nicknames, has caused confusion and annoyance among some parents, while others are angry about the risk it places on transgender students.
(Emphasis mine)
Pretty sure that’s the point…
Oh it’s definitely the point, but the consequences go way beyond that because the idiots who wanted to be cruel to trans kids didn’t actually think anything through.
When cruelty is the point, bonus cruelty isn’t a dissuasive argument.
Exactly. “Oh, this impacts kids who want to express some individuality rather than take the ABSOLUTE NAME that their PARENTS ASSIGNED THEM? Good.”
They don’t want kids going to school and broadening their horizons, they don’t classrooms to be places where a kid can ask to be called “DJ” because they’re really into hip hop, they want classrooms to be centers of indoctrination to create good little workers. A law that makes the public school experience worse is a win for them.
I don’t think there’s additional cruelty. You can’t really compare the danger outing trans kids to the annoyance of requiring to report every mundane nickname a kid requests.
It’s not a comparison, rather it’s a further illustration that it’s all about controlling what EVERYONE can or can’t do. If anything, if I was a kid in this state, I’d be requesting a new nickname every week, every day, even.
All I’m saying is that they don’t care about collateral damage.
So here’s what we do: we start a TikTok challenge. “Nickname November” or something like that, where you use a different name every day of the month for maximum confusion. Get a couple classes doing it, especially if there are any trans kids in the school, and you can see how far you can stress the system.
For the schools that require physical signatures, that’ll piss people off right quick. For the ones that just use an automated email and call it a day, toss in a twist: have each student loudly announce their new name at the start of every class, AA style. Heck, get the school announcer in on it. “Chess club on Wednesday has been cancelled, and Squidward Jones is now going by Jackie McJackson Johnstone.”
They want a ridiculous law to be followed? Okay, here you go.
Ok, but it’s only August, we need something for September and October too.
I’m with this in spirit but I don’t think I’d encourage that unless I knew one of my kids teachers was lgbtq-phobic. This will be a lot of hassle for a lot of teachers that couldn’t give two shits about nicknames and pronouns. Driving them to quit won’t change any policies except for policies that push kids into private and charter schools.
I think this assumes that most teachers are otherwise fine and want to go along with it, and also only view themselves as there to transmit data, rather than as role models and sources of love and support for a child.
If I were a teacher, I’d rather my students did something maliciously compliant than just go along with this idiot policy in silence. Kids have to learn to stand up for what’s right sometime, you know? I want the next generation to know that sometimes, authority really, really needs to be questioned.
Any respectable teacher will recognize what the students are doing and support it regardless of any added hassle. As a matter of fact, the teachers supporting the students can use this in support by showing the immense waste of time the R-Small-Government bureaucracy is causing, resulting in less time available to actually teach. A proper protest must disrupt.
Ah yes, I can’t wait to be notified of Robert’); DROP TABLE Students;-- nickname.
Another example of Big government Republicans trying to regulate our lives
As if that description doesn’t apply to democrats…
bOtH sIdEs yOu gUyS!!
I guess the reality of what the Democratic party has been for the last, oh, 70-80 years at least is irrelevant if we’re trying to disparage the Republicans? Way to hive mind yourselves Lemmy…
We get it, in a time no one today was alive to see, a Republican freed the slaves and Democrats hated blacks
And 30 years ago Republicans weren’t big government big spenders but here we are. Let’s focus on today
When did Democrats claim to be anti-regulation and pro-small government? Because that’s what Republicans claim while forever increasing government power.
Like it or not, Republicans push for less business regulations, they’ve neutered the EPA at least some(as a moderate conservative I’m not necessarily in favor of that one but it’s reality) when given the chance,
About the only things that democrats can pin this idea on the Republicans about is abortion and immigration.
The Democrats forced the ACA, which is more regulation and bigger government. Republicans were the ones pushing back on vaccine mandates while Democrats pushed for them.
So ya, I stand by my statement that the op statement is not some unique thing to the Republicans and I think stating that as if it is and then agreeing with it is an example of basing your opinions on feelings and propaganda, not facts and reality.
No, Republicans have the government…
- in my uterus
- in children’s and adult’s bathrooms (trans)
- filling paperwork for nicknames (trans)
- preventing adults from being trans
- preventing children from being trans
- preventing children from learning the truth about their bodies
- deciding any and every parent can demand a school do whatever they want
- trying to make it a criminal offense for a librarian or bookseller to loan/sell a child a book called The Bluest Eyes about 1940’s racism
- yes specifically that book
How is any of that small government?
As for your argument about the ACA, that was created as a bipartisan effort with tons of concessions by Democrats only for Republicans to vote no anyway.
Sure, vaccine mandates. As if we don’t have those already and haven’t for at least a hundred years. That’s new and bigger government.
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Knuckle dragger.
Are you suggesting the Democrats haven’t been about bigger government? Are you suggesting that bigger government means more freedom and less regulations? Like, this isn’t even all that debatable. I truly don’t think you understand the reality of, well, reality if you think this isn’t the case.
Course, the far left is all about whats not reality and I bet that’s exactly the space you think in. Makes it easy to just spout off whatever nonsense sounds like fits your narrative about the other side and call it intelligent.
Ever heard the idea that when you point at someone you’re pointing 3 fingers back at yourself?
For the record, I’d level similar criticisms at the far right and it’s narratives as well.
non-american here. I knew the conservatives in your country were bad but holy shit
I guarantee there are equally bad conservatives in your country. Keep them very far away from the levers of power.
they’ve been in power in one way or another since the 50s. mainstream left-wing politics in this country never really had a chance at any point since we became independent. Going back to the McCarthy days of Magsaysay in the 50s, to Martial Law under Marcos of the 70s, to the Post-Arroyo right-wing dominated politics we have today(23 out of the 24 senate seats are currently held by the conservative government, the House of Representatives isn’t any better). Some families have been in power in their regions for centuries.
arguably the most leftist government we had was the post-EDSA C. Aquino Government, and even that was led by someone who was arguably part of the aristocracy, and even then her government suffered around 9 loyalist coups in 6 years until her government eventually shifted to the right.
Have you seen the Top Gear US South special where they drive from Miami to New Orleans? A bit old now, but still relevant.
I watched ‘Till’ last night (if you don’t know the story, Emmett Till was lynched when he visited his cousins in Mississippi in the '50s. The murderers were identified by multiple witnesses, but the local jury found them not guilty. Till was a 14 year old black kid whose infraction was telling a white lady she looked like a movie star, and then doing a dog-whistle).
A lot of what was happening back then looks like what is happening to LGBT now. It’s wild. They’ll keep ramping it up, they aren’t anywhere near where they want to be and they have the power and support to make it happen.
OMFG. Seriously that’s all I can think to say Oh My Fucking God. Not just the potential damage it can do to trans kids, but also just the total fucking waste of time and effort for no fucking purpose but performance. It’s like the fucking TSA, not actually doing anything, just making a few idiots feel safer with their little song and dance.
This law confuses me, won’t it protect against bullying? How does it target trans kids
How on earth would such a law protect anyone from bullying?
Some parents beat their children when they find out they’re queer. This forces the school to potentially out kids to their hostile parents.
I have no clue, not an American and neither understand the law, trying to understand the extent of effects & why people are so mad
iM jUsT aSkInG qUeStIoNs
I just explained why it’s a bad law. It’s that simple. You do know now.
Is queer considered a nickname? That’s stupid
Let’s say John is in school and wants to come out at trans. “He” would like to go by Jane and use she/her pronouns. The one problem is that John’s parents are very conservative and would beat their child for being LGBTQ instead of “a normal straight kid.”
If John feels comfortable in school, he might transition publicly there - answering to Jane in class and reverting to John at home to avoid beatings.
This law, however, means that the second John asks to be called Jane, John’s parents would be contacted. Even if John/Jane begged for them not to be. School ceases to be a safe space and Jane needs to keep pretending to be John everywhere lest they get beaten.
Thanks for explaining. That sounds awful for the kids, peer pressure is bad enough and now having to deal with conservative parents too!
No, but a lot of queer kids drop their given name for one that fits their identity, one that is obviously queer…
This isn’t that hard to understand
“We’re sorry Mr. Smith your Nickname Application for “FartLordxxx69” has been rejected by the Middle School Nicknames Appropriations Board. Please report for immediate detention.”
In all seriousness, this will have such a detrimental effect on trans kids and I hope students, parents, teachers, EVERYONE gives this the pushback it deserves.
This is what “making america great again” looks like.
Just stupid, idiotic stuff made up by boomers who couldn’t log on to anything without all the help in the world.
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And if the parents are supportive, then the government simply bans gender affirming care and labels it child abuse a far as the law is concerned. This way if parents are supportive of their trans kid, the government can lock the parents up in prison for child abuse and give the child to an appropriately intolerant foster family.
After all, what’s better for a child? To be raised in a loving and accepting environment or to be beaten because they don’t conform to what conservatives declare to be “normal”?
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I’d only add that conservatives have already shown their hand when it comes to trans people. At first, it was “we’re only restricting gender affirming care for kids because they need to become adults before they make such big decisions.” (Although conservatives didn’t seem to think that a raped 10 year old girl wasn’t too immature to carry a pregnancy to term.)
Now, they’ve moved on to banning gender affirming care for adults as well. Their “we’re just protecting kids” talking points obviously don’t apply when the trans person is 30, so they’ve outright shifted to full blown anti-trans rhetoric instead of hiding behind the very thinly veiled “protect the kids.”
