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      He reviews/discusses mostly audio related tech (mainly headphones) but also dabbles in more generic mainstream tech like smartphones and laptops. The past few years he’s been expressing major frustration with the likes of Microsoft and Apple and I guess for the last few months has moved all his production over to Linux rigs, and even ditched his smart phone in favour of a modern flip phone.

      Also he has a car channel called “garbage time” and a drumming stream called “garbage stream.” Very funny guy who’s definitely worth a watch.

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          He also has a nugget cars channel where he reviews and tinkers with cheap old cars (and does things that outright would be qualified as torture if cars were sentient), also a music channel where he shows his drum playing and of course Frank’s channel, where he shows his pet snake, Frank. He calls it The Garbage Network.

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    Some of my fav quotes:

    “Ads in an operating system that you’ve paid for from a company that owns ridiculous amounts of money is so offensive.”

    “data, it’s like the new gold to people”

    “I got the confidence to really jump into Linux after the Steam Deck.”

    [regarding the terminal] “You just see text going across the screen, they’re working at lightning speeds.”

    “I’m kissing convenience goodbye, I just want control.”

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      “I got the confidence to really jump into Linux after the Steam Deck.”

      I offered my son (16) to get him an “office” computer for his room so he can do homework and emails and junk. He said he felt so comfortable with Linux because of the Steam Deck and we could instead just get a nicer monitor and a docking station and he will use the Deck as a gaming machine AND office workstation whenever our main computer (also Linux) is busy

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        I think it should be really clear to everyone now that the Steam Deck is exactly the kind of thing that Linux needs: nice hardware with a well-integrated OS that is designed to be user-friendly and has some guardrails to prevent you from breaking it.

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      “I’m kissing convenience goodbye, I just want control."

      He is in for a surprise when he realizes GNU/Linux is much more convenient than Winblows.

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        I’d argue this is a wash. Linux is more convenient in many ways but Windows is in others.

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          I don’t think it’s really much different. What makes windows feel more convenient is that everyone generally learns how to use it first. I think if you took a person that is not familiar with either, they would be able to figure out both OS at around the same time.

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            at this point i have utterly forgotten how windows works and when placed in front of a computer not running linux i just get frustrated that it won’t let me do things properly

            LET ME OPEN A TERMINAL AND USE REGULAR COMMANDS YOU OVERBUILT TOASTER

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            it really just depends on what hardware you are on. For example my Dell pribter was plug and play on windows . It took me 6 hours to get it to work on Linux.

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              This. In my recent experience on one laptop. Arch (Endevour OS btw) installed fine.

              But LMDE would not boot. I got a system disk missing error every time after install. So much playing with EUFI settings in BIOS, boot back to live disl, multiple re installs, GRUB repair, remake the ISO (ISO was fine, installed on another PC with no issues). Gave up. Just could not boot to the OS.

              Install normal mint. No issues.

              And past the install? Bluetooth dongle works fine on arch, but so many issues on mint.

              WiFi dongle A works on arch, but not mint. WiFI dongle B dosenr work on arch but does work on mint. Took me a while to work thst one out.

              Headphpnes have some weird echo back to me when mic is on. Use pipewire config from archwiki. Worked, but reduced qualoty. Tried a few other configs. Didn’t work. Must have broke something coz now the original config dosnt work. So will just deal with echo.

              0 of these issues on windows. And 0 likely your regular user can easily swap to Linux.

              Will stay on arch tho. Fuck spez windows.

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                I just installed endeavor an hour ago. I switched from kubuntu. I love the style of the is and arch programs seem to work better out of the box compared to Debian.

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                Maybe it’s just me, I always had issues with Ubuntu and Debian based distros that I didn’t have with Arch based distros. Why do people say Arch is harder? That was never my experience. I’ve been using endeavorOS and it’s been pretty great.

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                  For me it’s the wiki. Arch just explaining so simply. Searching an issue for LMDE just lead to forums. And the Debian or Ubuntu wikis don’t seem as good as arch.

                  Plus must searches for <other distro> issue seem to lead to forums and random “run this code”. All arch searches led back to the Wiki. All hail the wiki.

                  But srsly. I feel like I’m LEARNING Linux with arch. Rather than just running fixes for the other distros.

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                  Arch does tend to keep packages as close to upstream as possible, which can be both a good and bad thing. Sway not binding to graphical-session.target by default is a little strange for example. Other distros also save a first-time user a great deal of configuration for things they probably don’t care about as well. Going through Fedora’s install and finding out that disk encryption and SELinux were configured OOTB was very nice to see personally. On the other hand Arch’s installation (w/o archinstall) has you choosing a bootloader, audio server, display manager, etc. Nothing arduous and I like it, but definitely not for everyone

                  This is all eliminated by spinoffs of course, but even there users have the option to run random scripts/AUR packages without vetting them. Also doesn’t help that the most popular Arch-based distro for a while (Manjaro) was pretty flaky and generally incompatible with the AUR (despite saying otherwise), leading to many people saying “that’s just Arch” and swearing off the parent project as well

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                  It really comes down to if you are trying to use newer hardware or not. Debian based systems usually run fine out of the box on older systems.

                  For newer hardware your going to want new drivers and kernel versions which you get with a rolling release distro.

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              I had a printer I could not in my life make work on a Windows PC (2017). Then I tried my Ubuntu laptop, no drivers installed, just worked.

              Fuck Windows.

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              True, meanwhile my HP printer had a hell of a time trying to work on windows much less finding an actual downlosd for the scanner tool on HP’s websitr for a printer ovrr 5 years old and on Linux I typed yay HP, 1, then I was ready to print and scan.

              Plus KDE discover is the convenience if the Microsoft store was actually good.

              Settings are ACTUALLY in setting instead of being split between settings, control panel, individual tool auto diagnoses, powershell, and registry edits.

              KDEconnect works seamlessly and I can also locate my phone if I lost it in the house.

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                Yep, it really just comes down to complete luck that there are drivers in the kernel for your hardware. As another example, my Lenovo Legion sucks at running Linux out of the box. The webcam is terrible, it never suspends correctly, outputting to a monitor is incredibly painful. Meanwhile my wife’s thinkpad runs popos perfectly. Even the touchscreen works.

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          Assuming you don’t need a windows only application for your workflow (admittedly this isn’t very common), it’s really just a matter of getting used to it. There’s plenty of easy to use distros out there, such as Linux “I’m not buying my grandma a new computer” Mint.

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          If you go immutable then I really don’t think it is unless you need niche software

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      He’s specifically using Ubuntu Gnome, which feels a lot less complete than even Linux Mint Cinnamon. Gnome doesn’t want you to customize it at all. I’m surprised they give you a master volume slider.

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        I used gnome though. IIRC, everything to do with customising GNOME is done through extensions, and all extensions have GUI settings menus.

        My point being, even though it’s objectively harder to customise GNOME, it still doesn’t require using the terminal.

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          I mean, I hate Gnome and I think their work actively harms the Linux ecosystem. Gnome is deliberately unfinished. They have an artistic vision, and that artistic vision is blank uselessness is beautiful. They hate settings, they hate options. They get rid of as many settings and options as they can. Which means their UI feels incomplete to most people who try it for the first time coming from basically anything else. It’s so bad that third parties maintain “extensions” to add those options back in, and Gnome does everything they can to break those because their artistic vision does not include options. The ideal Gnome utility is a blank window with a button in the top bar that says “Never Mind.”

          Many people trying Linux for the first time fail to find a setting in the options menu, conclude that Linux as a whole is dumb and bad and incapable because there’s no check box that puts the dock on the side or bottom of the monitor, you tell them to go install GnomeTweaks from the package manager, they point crotchward and say “Install this.” And they’re right, Gnome is unfinished and it’s not the end user’s job to finish it for them. Windows 95 had a robust system for changing the system theme, Gnome demanded we stop doing that.

          I think you’re right in that most Gnome users don’t customize the GUI from the terminal, they install extensions. But if you ask a narrow question on a support forum, you’ll probably be told to run a terminal command, because that’s usually how Linux veterans communicate narrow answers to narrow questions over text-based media, and it’s also how a lot of system admin stuff like changing anything that ends up in /etc is done. I’ve never seen a GUI utility for editing fstab, everyone says to do that in the terminal. Gparted or Gnome-Disk-Utility might do it? I know KDE at least used to have the attitude that admin stuff should be done via the terminal. Dolphin and KATE didn’t have the option to Open As Root because they felt if you know enough to mess with the system directly you know enough to use the terminal to do so.

          There are also just so many settings that just don’t reasonably have a GUI. Give you a personal example, I’m using an old speaker system that has a very hot external amplifier, every time the motherboard’s audio circuit would turn on or off the speakers would make a loud pop. I had to edit a couple files to change a 1 to a 0 and a Y to an N to stop that from happening. In Windows that would be a setting buried somewhere in Sound Settings > Volume > Advanced > More Options then the Power Saving tab or something, or maybe a registry key you’d use regedit to change. On Mint I could do it with Nemo and Xed, on some distros you have to use the terminal and something like Nano or Vim to change that setting. And newbies who probably didn’t choose their hardware for Linux compatibility and having to do workarounds to compensate are more likely to have to do stuff like that.

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      For what he said is more that when he search for something he only finds CLI commands, he just doesn’t know about the GUI controls.

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      To be honest, a lot of system configuration is better done on the CLI or editing configuration files manually (see the majority of the audio stack). I like that approach way more than Windows but even the System Registry in Windows is more “GUI-like” than editing ALSA files or pam.d files manually (usually on the cli as they mostly require sudo). This scares people.

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        You want the most common things available in a Settings app(s) as they generally are on Gnome, KDE, Windows and Mac. If we cram too much stuff in there regular people struggle. Finding a good balance is a dilemma for most platforms. You want the less obvious stuff to be available in additional specialist “tweak” apps for more experienced users as they often are on all these platforms but sometimes less so on Linux. Then the really esoteric stuff you have to edit registry settings, conf files and plists as you do on all of them. Linux tends to provide more power and flexibility but requires reading documentation due to the diversity of config methods and locations.

        A Mac user very sensibly contacted me worried about pasting a command to edit a plist into the terminal from a website they found trying to fix an issue. Nobody should be pasting commands they don’t understand into terminals. A quick search and I found the GUI toggle to do the same thing. It isn’t exclusively a Linux issue. Windows and Mac have complex operating systems underneath and equivalently powerful command line tools.

        GUI config isn’t practical for hardcore linux users. It isn’t scriptable, we can’t store it in version control, it is harder to document, it is harder to use remotely. We have to appreciate that we have a growing number of users where it is worth taking a bit more time and sharing an alternative if one exists. However nobody wants to configure services in a GUI as we want to version, document and distribute this stuff and managing services in a GUI is unprofessional because you lose these things.

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        To be honest, a lot of system configuration is better done on the CLI or editing configuration files manually

        and this is apparently a “problem”… people shy from the command line and fail to realize “we” continue to use it, not because there is no GUI alternative but because it is simply awesome!

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    Damn who imagined that gaming would be the topic that made the FOSS OSes relevant. I don’t agree on all that steam does but, they really nail it with the Steam deck and Steam Os.

    A lot of people have steam deck and it helps realize that GNU/Linux is an amazing OS.

    On the other hand Microsoft and Apple are doing their best to try to give more reasons to switch.

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      It actually feels like in a few years, the year of the linux desktop will become real. Not even joking.

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      Gaming has been the only pathway to mainstream desktop since forever. I’ve been around for a hot minute and I remember that consistently, the “real Linux users” for years repeated “we don’t need gaming this is an adult OS go back to Windows and play with your toys” and then turned around and whined that no one wanted to use desktop Linux. Valve stepped in and casually created the year of the Linux desktop as a side-effect of just wanting an escape hatch for their business model. Now the casuals and elitists alike will have a better experience via the magic of Marketshare, and all it really took is not listening to people that don’t know what’s good for them.

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        What do you mean by an escape hatch. Valve have been messing with hardware and Linux for way longer than the Steam Deck.

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          “Escape hatch” specifically refers to the speculation that Valve is positioning themselves in a way that they can’t be forced into paying fees for existing on the Windows platform, and that if push comes to shove they can say they only support Linux now. This hasn’t happened yet, but it’s a strategic stance which will likely prevent it from even beginning to happen. This doesn’t have to do with the Steam Deck specifically; it was also part of their intentions with the Steam Machine and etc.

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              I would also wager that Valve was worried about Microsoft attempting to use “creative” methods to compete with Steam and chipping away at them, like hidden API. Its not like Valve knew that Microsoft’s attempt would continue to flop so hard for decades that they couldn’t even try that.

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                Yeah no, it makes heaps of sense. It just initially sounded to me like the person was implying the Steam Deck is Valve’s escape hatch from running the Steam store. Which would be ridiculous, the two business sectors aren’t even close to the same order of magnitude.

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              It’s not a take, that was their actual reasoning behind it. Gabe knew Microsoft well, as a former employee.

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          Sometime around Windows 8 Microsoft started making noises about closing the Windows ecosystem and making people buy software through their store. This would have shut things like Steam out, so Valve said “Okay, we’re going to make a Linux-based gaming platform, because we think gamers will follow us and not you. Also we’re going to create console-like gaming PCs called Steam Machines and make our own controller, because we think we can win against Xbox, too.” Microsoft didn’t lock down the platform, Steam Machines didn’t really go anywhere, but it laid a lot of the groundwork for the Steam Deck.

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            Thank you for the history, I appreciate it. Hopefully Valve releases SteamOS properly soon, it could be the resurgence of the Steam Machine!

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      it’s a very successful rebrand. people Ive talked to hate linux as a concept but will use a deck

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      always has been. the one complaint ive always heard for linux is that it didnt run games and photoshop.

      most games run now, and photoshop is workable on wine if you are not a professional.

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          id imagine it doesnt work? i said its workable for non professionals because ive used it on wine for simple tasks, but my time working on photoshop was already over by the time i switched to linux.

          alternatives exist now too

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          I need you to understand 98% of windows users (and computer users in general) don’t need or use photoshop and advanced photo editing

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              4K HDR

              Normally I use kdenlive to edit video, which supports 4K AFAIK, but although that doesn’t support HDR it looks like DaVinci Resolve supports both.

              Taxes

              That’s surprising. Turbotax and Quickbooks have online options, and there are a few native apps like GnuCash, but I haven’t used them—TurboTax works for me.

              GarageBand

              Yeah that’s too bad. I hear good things about Ardour, though. Also, bandlab if you’re okay with a webapp.

              Netflix

              I only stream on an actual TV, not my computer, so I haven’t done this in a while, but I thought you could do this in Firefox with DRM enabled? If not, seems like there are addons which enable it. Might be outdated knowledge.

              vector illustration

              Fun is hard to come by

              git client

              Git clients all suck for me, CLI is the way to go. However, my co-workers that use git clients all use GitKraken (on macOS) and that is available on Linux, too.

              screen recording was also painful

              Won’t argue with you there. Don’t know why it doesn’t have first-class support in many distros. I hear OBS Studio works well for this if you want to do anything fancy with the recording, otherwise there are plenty of apps for this (Kazam might be a simpler choice).

              barely meets my use cases

              I think really (considering the above) your main issue is that you just have some strong software preferences. There are certainly ways to meet most if not all of the use cases you listed. It requires a big change in workflow, though.

              For what it’s worth, I find that most of the issues with software alternatives in Linux is that everyone often recommends free/GPL replacements, which are invariably worse than the commercial/non-free software the user is used to. But there is paid software in Linux land, too, remember. In my case, I have often found that if I can pay for the software it will be better, and if there’s a webapp version of something non-free it will often be better than the native FOSS alternative. There are many notable exceptions to that rule, but money does solve the occasional headache.

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                  It would be cool to pay a monthly subscription, that’s then distributed among the software I use or have installed. That could be integrated into a package manager even. I don’t know if any Linux distro does something like it.

                  I’ve been thinking the same thing lately. It would be cool if at least there were some sort of metadata maintainers could include on packages saying, “if you want to donate money, upstream accepts donations at this link: <…>”. Then I (or someone else) could put together a tool that helps you track what upstream projects you’re donating to.

                  I understand that isn’t nearly as easy as just a subscription though. The issue I see with that is legal - you’d need a legal entity specifically for accepting payments and disbursing each upstream project’s share, plus all the accounting and such that goes along with it. I don’t see why it couldn’t be shared across multiple distributions though. Upstream packages could create an account with the funding service, then distro maintainers could include some sort of Funding-Service-ID: gnu/coreutils metadata and a way to upload a list of Funding-Service-IDs to the funding service’s servers.

                  I think that would be doable, but it would require buy-in from distributions, upstream maintainers, and someone who could operate such an organization. Not to mention users.

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                  Sorry but saying Linux users don’t like paying for things is just not true. In fact stats about gaming from Humble Bundle (I think, don’t remember exactly) demonstrates the opposite: that Linux users will happily pay and on average more than windows users.

                  As for paying maintainers of important packages etc I think states (and corpos) should start doing it given how much of the IT infrastructure depends on them.

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            This isn’t about being fancy with Photoshop layering together bracketed photos - modern flagship smartphones all shoot direct in HDR. Basic edits in stuff like Apple Photos on the Mac or Google Photos take this into account.

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              Again: According to Adobe itself, 98% of computer users don’t use photoshop AT ALL. That includes windows users. It’s a problem only a few people have.

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                I literally said it has nothing to do with Photoshop - if you shoot a photo on your iPhone or Google Pixel it shoots in HDR, and then you just use the built-in editor on your PHONE, it will edit in HDR. Linux is worse than Pixel and iOS stock photo apps at photo editing. I don’t know why you’re obsessed with Photoshop.

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        Adobe’s licensing model is also a paper sack of hot liquid shit. If you’re gonna switch to an alternative it might as well work on Linux.

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      Damn who imagined that gaming would be the topic that made the FOSS OSes relevant.

      Frankly, that’s been obvious for a pretty long time now. I’ve been hearing “but I need Windows for gaming” as people’s primary excuse for not switching since literally two decades ago.

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    It’s perfectly normal I guess but I’m still not quite used to seeing so many people who don’t know much about linux talking about how they use linux.

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    Gotta love these videos… they can be summarized as follows:

    “I hate Windows so I will try Linux with no prep… Linux is not identical to Windows in x, y, z and therefore Linux is still deficient… Looks like I cannot do everything I could think of without reading a single line of documentation, conclusion, LiNUx iS nOT ReADy!”

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        I did… he tosses out a ton of misinformation about how hard Linux is. The fact he decided to “stay and endure the hardship” doesn’t mean the message he is pushing is sadly misinformed

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          “linux is hard” is a subjective opinion and he is entitled to it. it does not make it misinformation. he is free to express his frustrations at the learning curve, just like any learning curve in any other software.

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            I agree, but there is a big difference in saying “I don’t know what to do, I need to learn this new thing” vs “there is a scary part to Linux and there is no way around it”

            Saying “driving manual is hard” is fine, saying “you need to learn to shift gears without a clutch to drive” is wrong and would scare potential drivers

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            Totally get it… but sadly, other people who follow him would listen to his vids and conclude “Linux is too inconvenient for me” based on mistaken info

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              I’m not so sure we’ve seen the end of his Linux videos. I’m sure he will learn more and talk about it.

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      However, this guy has actually switched to Linux, and is willing to adapt and learn how to use it.

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        Sure. And hopefully he can post a follow up video where he correct the misinformation on this first one

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    I assumed he was big on Macs for their own sake. It’s a thing, for music geeks - and obviously he’s a fan of iPods, specifically. Surprised to hear his objectively correct summary of Windows versions.

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      Elsewhere in the thread people say he’s an “audio guy”, so that’s actually kinda neat if he’s going to Linux.

      We’ve made progress on the Linux gaming front, now we need to dispell “Y’but you can’t use Linux if you’re into sound.” :)

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        Where have you heard that? The whole reason jack exists is professional audio

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          I’ve mostly heard it from musicians on various distro forums and such for some reason. You’re right, there’s JACK, and low latency versions of kernels and all sorts of other stuff. (LMMS is more than fine for my experience level lol)

          Mainly I think it’s because a lot of the fancy paid DAWs or plugins boil down to Windows, but I’m not an experienced musician myself to really know what their exact complaints are.

          I think it still might just be FUD generated by frustrated people, because sometimes you gotta do a little more than “unzip and run” for a lot of plugins.

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      When that person is a public figure I think it is news worthy. Because it won’t be one person but a handful. As I am betting alot of people who follow them will want to try it out as well.

      This is advertising 101.

      Downside is if the public figure has a bad experience it will discourage many people from not even trying.

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          I guess you had to be there, he has some very fun videos. His garbage time videos are a lot of fun if you like watching people mess around with shit boxes. And if you’re into drums, he has the drum thing too.

          I guess if you’re boring and like watching others play games you could just play yourself. There’s hello, I’m gaming. He tries to make it more interesting but it’s gaming so.

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    How weird, I was just thinking about this guy yesterday after forgetting about him for probably ~5 years. I got pretty into buying, repairing, and modding broken iPods for a little while thanks in part to some of his goofy but informative teardown videos. Still have a small box of parts somewhere.

    Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’ll be a little surprised if he doesn’t immediately fire up Shrek to test whatever media player came with his distro.

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      I think the worst way to sum up his channel is that he reviews MP3 players and bad headphones. You’d really just have to see it, he’s very funny.

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        If it works on electricity, there’s a chance I’ll yell at it

        or something along these lines he’s got as a channel title, and I think it describes the content in a very cromulent way

  • @[email protected]
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    348 months ago

    Their rough new user experience is concerning though. From what they described I suspect many of their “problems” are not actually “real”, but it doesn’t really matter because they still ended up in a scenario where they thought there were problems. How did they end up thinking that everything must be done with terminal while using Ubuntu? I know in the last ~10 years there’s been a big focus on the new user experience, so what more can be done to prevent this? My gut says there are too many online resources that are confusing new users when they try to onboard themselves - especially resources that are old, written for other distros, or written for people who just want to find the command they can copy-paste to do something.

    • @[email protected]
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      How did they end up thinking that everything must be done with terminal while using Ubuntu?

      When asking for help in a Linux sub/forum/community, the answer will generally use the terminal because it works across desktops and even distros. It’s a lot easier to give one or two commands than it is to work out what distro, what desktop, and what settings the querier has, then describe the steps necessary in that particular GUI.

      This may lead to the impression that the terminal is required for day to day use of Linux.

      • @[email protected]
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        168 months ago

        Maybe it needs to be more obvious that there are many ways to do things in Linux, and give new users a short “learning to learn” primer on how things operate differently in Linux-land, and where/how to look online for help. There are always first-boot popups but I imagine most people are conditioned to click out of them without even reading; forcing people to confirm a couple times that they want to skip “very helpful reading” may cut down on people that play the search engine lottery on what information they use for their first steps.

        Also semi-related, I hope that mainstream Linux eventually “un-stupids” computers for regular people again. I get the distinct feeling that Microsoft and Apple have, at least somewhat intentionally, imposed ‘learned helplessness’ onto average computer users. “Oh computers are magic no one knows how they work. We are the only wizards that could possibly understand them and we will sell you the solution.” Windows/OSX/iOS/etc are so locked down that people have rightfully learned over time that if they run into a problem, there really is no solution. I suspect that’s permeating into the new user experience on Linux where people will encounter one problem and throw their hands up and say “fucking computers” instead of using basic problem solving to try another approach.

        • @[email protected]
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          168 months ago

          eventually “un-stupids” computers for regular people again

          The problem isn’t that people are dumb or don’t want to learn or whatever, it’s that the vast vast majority of them simply do not care.

          They do not care what OS runs Chrome, because it doesn’t matter. They don’t care about privacy, they don’t care about ads, they don’t care about AI, they don’t care about enshittification, they don’t care that Linux or OS X might be better, it doesn’t matter.

          The computer is a screwdriver, and nobody gives a shit who makes your screwdriver. Hell, a lot of Windows users don’t even know who MAKES Windows, because it’s just “the computer”.

          I’d wager that Dank Pods didn’t care all that much either - or, at least didn’t until the point that something happened that DID make him care, and the real incentive here should be making people actually care that their screwdriver is shoving ads at them and stealing their data and that’s somehow worth action from them - even though literally everything you do on a computer does that now.

          How you do that I do not know, but the user has to have a solid, definable, clear reason for their change that’ll get them past the transition period, or it just plain won’t happen.

    • @[email protected]
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      158 months ago

      How did they end up thinking that everything must be done with terminal while using Ubuntu?

      Most guides on installing things or help on fixing things will offer terminal commands, so I can see how that could certainly lead to that feeling as a new user.

      Also depending on the DE and stuff certain very basic obvious settings are not available in the GUI, like fractional scaling on KDE which has to be done by editing some config file first.

      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        You got the desktop wrong. KDE has fractional scaling. Gnome which the reviewer is using because he is using Ubuntu needs the editing.

      • exu
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        98 months ago

        Where do you have to enable fractional scaling in KDE? Worked out of the box for me when I installed that recently. Sure you don’t mean Gnome?

      • Omega
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        58 months ago

        Fractional scaling is available, I remember using it from the settings. There is really nothing left to be configured from console anymore, and if there is it seems to be the apps themselves that pose a problem