I’ve had enough of the text editing issue, where when you press backspace it highlights the space before the word and ends up deleting it. The developer passes off responsibility for this to the engine they use and seems to have no intention of addressing it.
What are the pros and cons of the other Android apps? I’m only considering ones on F-Droid, not the Play Store, so that rules out Summit and Boost. Ones I have available are:
- Thunder (IzzyOnDroid)
- Interstellar (IzzyOnDroid)
- Voyager
- Eternity
- muffed (IzzyOnDroid)
- Combustible
I cycled from all apps but keep ending in Summit. Yes I understand the FOSS attitude I really do but it all comes down to usability and UI and active development. Voyager and Eternity are my next options.
I went from Jerboa to Eternity to Raccoon to Voyager. I have to say Voyager is the most mature lemmy app when it comes to current features, development of new features, customizability and stability.
I was on Artemis and then Jerboa and now Thunder (probably a few others in between).
Artemis was going to be great but is no more, sadly.
Jerboa I just couldn’t like. I think my biggest issue when I was using it was you could only search for community names? I can’t remember exactly I just remember the difficulty searching was the last straw for me.
Thunder is great. I don’t think I have any complaints. It works as I need it to and probably has a bunch of features that I don’t use. It’s pretty new still so I’m trying not to get too attached lol but it’s updated pretty regularly, commenting works well, it allows you to preview before posting. Search seems to work great. I guess the only issue is the delay in notifications? Not really an issue for me but I guess if you’re having a more immediate conversation in the comments it might be.
Thunder is fantastic. It’s so good now. Lots of customizations, and it’s actively being developed.
The markdown support is good, and spoiler tags are done right. It has it’s own YouTube video player now, too.
The only issue I’ve found recently is superscripts rendering funny. Let me try one again.
This number should be a superscript1 more words.
Oh, it’s working now. The other day or at putting a line break before the superscript.
Oh! Here’s the ultimate test: [1]
Can it handle Markdown citations???
Even the website doesn’t handle those quite right.
The links should scroll between the citation in the text and the definition at the bottom, while I actually wrote the citation immediately afterwards. The website scrolling doesn’t quite work, but it does at least place the definitions all together at the bottom.[2]
View the source for fun.
Oh, maybe the website does handle it ok, it just doesn’t quite work on the first click. Subsequent clicks seem to scroll correctly.
Neat!
The content isn’t long enough to scroll, and the superscript doesn’t look like a link. Tapping it just collapses replies now that I’ve replied.
Tapping the little arrow doesn’t collapse replies, so it’s doing something. It might scroll up if your comment were long enough.
Good stuff hah. Thunder is in my trial group now anyway :)
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I understand you prefer f-droid, I’m also an old FOSS user, but I used Sync for reddit for like 13 years and bought the “no ads” version of Sync for lemmy in the first hour it came out too… I only used Jerboa in the beginning for a couple of months.
I can’t get anything else to look and feel as nice as Sync, either. It’s even worth spoiler tags not always working.
Yeah I never really liked Sync on reddit, I went for Relay as its UI suited my workflow. However in hindsight Relay was dodgy as even the paid app included trackers.
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Yup. I’ve been using Eternity and I like it but it doesn’t mean you would.
Yeah I mean ultimately they should all end up with the same features, then it comes down to which UI you like the best.
Muffed & Combustible, seem to be dead, Interstellar early development it seems & more geared towards Kbin… Eternity (very good) recently had a update after months of inactivity, whereas Voyager & Thunder (both excellent) have active devs and continuous support & updates…
Looks like I’ll lean towards Voyager and Thunder, might give Eternity a go also. I had Voyager before but was sticking it out with Jerboa, we’ll see how I feel this time. Thanks!
You can’t really go wrong with either of those, I do lean towards Voyager as a personal preference… Raccoon is another that I really like, but I’m not sure if that will see any further development…🤷🏻♂️
Voyager is fantastic.
I’ve tried pretty much every app there is and ended up with Thunder. It’s got a huge amount of features and polish, a clean UI and gets regular updates. The only issue is that I don’t see the number of upvotes on posts since my home instance upgraded Lemmy, though that will probably get fixed soon.
I’ve been using Thunder since I came to Lemmy, and I’m shocked to not see it mentioned more. It’s fantastic, and seems to just feel right as someone that used rif for reddit
I tried thunder looking for exactly what you’re saying but it didn’t feel like rif with so many of the customization and settings that rif provided not being present. I don’t just want something that looks like rif, I want something that works like it.
That’s why I ultimately fell onto Summit. It is basically the one app I’ve found after trying them all that genuinely feels like rif, because it’s packed to the brim with customizations and settings, with a very responsive dev, and fits the rif aesthetic (though you can change it to be however you like). It scratched that rif itch and I haven’t touched another app since.
I might give Summit a go at some point then. I was never a power user of rif, so thumbnails appearing in the same places and general text size / layout etc was enough for me to draw comparisons.
I’m also way more active on Lemmy than I ever was on Reddit, I probably have more comments here in just over a year than I did in like a decade on reddit, so my use case has also changed I guess.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Had the same issue but switching keyboard resolved the issue for me.
Currently using FUTO keyboard and it’s working great.
I went from Jerboa to Eternity to Thunder. I liked Eternity a lot but it doesn’t get developed very actively which causes issues. Spoiler tags for example aren’t implemented correctly. Voyager seems to be great as well from all I have heard, but I don’t like its UI.
UI preference is a key decider, imo!
That’s why I support Eternity (and Infinity before that), but also use Voyager (I have a lot of others installed too, but they sleep).
I tried the paid ones like Boost and Sync but eventually have settled on Thunder. It mostly just works and is still being actively developed
Seconding Thunder. It’s my daily driver. Eternity is also nice if you want to quickly swipe through a bunch of posts.
I’ve never had this happen, does it need a special set of circumstances?
I get a similar glitch with all keyboards based on AOSP (openboard, etc), where pressing backspace randomly jumps back a few words
I eventually switched back to swiftkey because it was unbearable
Basically when you press backspace the underline for autocorrect extends over the space before the word, then when you press backspace again it deletes that space. Every other press of backspace will delete the space before, completely messing up the text when you’re just trying to make a minor correction. You then have the hassle of pixel hunting to get the cursor in the middle of the word where the space was to add it back again.
Ok my bad seems like I recalled incorrectly, your description fits exactly my experience. It’s the keyboard
It’s not really the keyboard though, the keyboard works fine everywhere else. It’s a poor implementation from the text editor that Jerboa uses, one that other keyboards have created a workaround for. But the issue is in the text editor.
It’s like when a website only works in Chrome, but doesn’t work in Firefox. It isn’t because Firefox is broken, it’s because the website doesn’t follow web standards and has only been tested in Chrome.
I see, there’s the keyboard on one side and the text editor on the other, and they don’t mesh well ? that makes more sense
I also have never seen that behavior. And even if, would it matter in any way how it handles the backspace key?
It’s an absolute pain in the ass. When you press backspace once, the underline for autocorrect extends to the space before the word, then when you press it again it deletes the space, merging it with the word before. It will keep doing this over and over if you keep pressing backspace. You then have to go through and position the cursor just so in the middle of the word to add the spaces back - or, if you don’t notice it, you submit the comment and then have to edit it, which marks your comment and makes it dirty (lol, one thing I loved about reddit was the 3 minute leeway for edits).
I still fail to see that this is an issue. I use the backspace key only when I make a mistake. You seem to hang up the whole user experience of an app off it. Just make less mistakes that require you to use backspace.
I make little typos all the time, and often go back and edit things to change the shape of my comment. The backspace thing is a little thing, but it’s persistent and frequently annoying.
Also *fewer :p
what phone do you have?
use whatever app you want, I’m just curious because I’ve been using jerboa since the beginning without any issues, im on a pixel 6.
did you try using a different keyboard?
Part of the reason for the move is upgrading from a Poco F3 to a Pixel 7 Pro (although I’m sad to lose the IR blaster). However I run custom ROMs, so I’ve been using the keyboard that comes with DivestOS and AXP.OS. Don’t really want to try another keyboard lol but others have said that might fix it.
got it.
i hope the 7 is good, I’m donnne with pixels after this guy.
i hear they’re great with custom roms but haven’t tried replacing mine yet.
Yeah DivestOS ticks nearly all the boxes for me (eg call recording and custom gestures eg long press back to force close), however there were a few little niggles that custom ROMs have with other manufacturers - the camera is usually closed source so you can’t quite get all out of it, and also I was having issues with pocket detection where a message or call would turn my screen on and then it would either answer in my pocket or mess with the audio player on the lock screen. Not had any of those issues so far with the Pixel.
However curved screens suck balls, and the cheap screen protector I got is already cracked lol.
haha, dang. man the stock camera pixel 6 app is horseshit for me, even taking .raw photos it applies filters and effects that there’s no way to disable.
over been wondering if camera apps are the alt option to go for, but i take videos much more often than I take photos anyway, so it isn’t too frustrating…except every single time I want to take a candid picture haha.
yea curved screens can get outta here.
have you tried grapheneos? everyone was encouraging me to try that on one of my pixel 6 rants some months ago.
I was tempted by GrapheneOS, my son used it for a while on his older Pixel, but I always resented all the diva drama from the devs. AXP.OS seemed like an easy transition, basically using the same ROM as my old phone (AXP.OS is a DivestOS fork).
yea that one dev sounded like such a douche I stopped considering it, didn’t really want to be associated with the whole scene.
well nice, enjoy and good luck on finding your next preferred client app.