“Too many” kinda sounds right to my ear because beans is plural, but the second logically seems right because its served by volume and is not ‘countable’ as ordinary (non-destroyed) beans might be.

  • @[email protected]
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    Depends whether you consider the noun countable or not. Too many peas, too much mashed potato. It’s purely semantics, I think we can consider refried beans an edge case.

  • You would use too much, since refried beans is an uncountable noun. You have to add a unit to it to make it countable.

    You would say “there’s too much refried beans on my plate, and too many cans of refried beans in the pantry.”

    By adding “cans” to the noun phrase, you’ve made the refried beans countable, you may now use “too many.”

    • Richard
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      28 months ago

      What? That is not at all how that works. Beans is the plural of bean, therefore, many is the only correct option.

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        Talking “refried beans” as a noun phrase, not beans.

        Refried beans does not have a plural noun form. You have to give it a unit. “twenty plates of refried beans,” “pounds of refried beans,” etc.

        It like oil. You don’t say “top up my car with oils.” If you add more than you’re supposed to, you put in too much, not too many.

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        Beans are countable. We’re talking about refried beans though. It’s a paste. You cant count paste.

        It’s like saying “oil.”

        You have to give a unit.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      38 months ago

      NGL… I kinda want to tell someone to reduce their beanage without any context, and walk away.

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    “Too many” if you’re referring to the beans themselves. “Too much” if you’re referring to refried beans as a dish you have been served.

    Edit: just remember: “too many” as reference to a quantity of things, “too much” as reference to a volume or a quantity/amount of a thing. In this case, the “thing” was the dish being served (refried beans). Since it was the dish, itself, being considered (not each individual bean) the phrase was being dealt with, grammatically, as one whole unit— a dish that was served to you, of which you had too much.

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    Obviously this is very context dependant, but here’s my take:

    “I ate too many refried beans” = in one meal, I consumed more refried beans than I should have

    “I ate too much refried beans” = over the course of an extended period of time, I ate meals consisting of refried beans more frequently than I should have

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    Since refried beans is not countable, I vote for “too much”.

    Example:

    • I’m gassy because I had too much refried beans
    • I am gassy because I had too many burritos

    Or like someone else suggested, make the noun singular and call them “refried bean paste”. This will probably raise more eyebrows than much/many confusion, though.

  • ivanafterall ☑️
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    38 months ago

    “Scrambled eggs” is kind of similar. You could say, “I had too many scrambled eggs” or, “I had too much scrambled egg.”

    So I think the correct version is:

    “I had too much refried bean.”

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    You would say “too much mash potato” rather than “too many mash potatoes”, and the consistency is similar

    Difference is with “refried beans” the countable noun is plural (“refried beanS” vs “mash potato”).

    Saying “too much refried bean” sounds a bit more natural.

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    808 months ago

    When it comes to refried beans, “too many” or “too much” are both incorrect. The correct construction is “may I have some more please?”

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        Señor*

        Also, I’d love to see a version of Oliver Twist where the orphanage exclusively serves tex-mex for some reason.

        19th century london orphan taste buds who are used to the blandest of the blandest slop only get to eat really spicy food at the orphanage for the added cruelty.

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        You can’t have any pudding until you eat your meat.

  • @[email protected]
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    Regardless of whether the noun is countable or not, it would typically still be “too much” when referring to how much you’ve eaten.

    Consider the scenario where you’ve had only one steak (countable noun), but you had too much steak.

    Of course, it’s not always like this. You might say that you had too many cookies for dessert.

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    118 months ago

    It seems like the problem goes away if you add a “the.” I had too much of the refried beans.

    • @[email protected]
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      Your point is fair, but I respectfully disagree. “Beans” being plural makes me want to use “many.” “I had too many of the refried beans” parses fine for me.

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          I don’t think I’ve ever been asked to quantify mashed potatoes in such a way, but after reflecting for a moment, yes. Thank you for an interesting question.