Trump can have one more felony, as a treat
Lol. Dude most likely to attempt a coup in the US just pissed off the armed forces. You love to see it.
Good point. However, why would it have taken this long? This man has been nothing but insulting toward our military.
Everyone posting quotes from the trump side, so here’s what the Army said:
“This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation’s fallen deserve,” the statement said.
So the Army sided with the people at the cemetery, and tge following paragraphs indicate the Pentagon does as well.
Barely… They don’t even condemn the people who did it. They say it was “unfortunate.” Give me a fucking break.
Imagine if this was a Democrat.
their campaign would have ended and you’d still be hearing about it in 2028
The US military is very apolitical. They don’t get involved with campaigns or politics. I think it may actually be illegal for an active serviceman to make statements with any political leanings. Certainly in uniform I think.
So for them to say this much is actually a big deal.
Agreed. It even says in the article that the army stays out of politics and such a statement was a very rare occurrence. So we can infer the fact that they made a statement at all carries quite a bit of weight.
Let’s see how “apolitical” works when fascists are running the country.
Actually, surprisingly not badly. US generals like Milley took precautions to prevent Trump from doing even more disastrous things. Military leadership is generally respectable.
And yet they continued to voluntarily work directly with a fascist administration.
I’m so glad he pissed off the army before trying to stage his second coup.
Good luck asshat.
I don’t really have much hope for this. People have short memories
But Trump can’t go a day without showing his ass for attention. Without rose colored glasses dismissing the things he does he will remind them consistently how much he doesn’t care about soldiers.
He pissed off the 60% of the army who already knew what a disgusting failure of a human he is.
The US military is aggressively non-political. Don’t count on them to do anything as long as the civilian institutions do nothing.
What about “foreign and domestic”?
Just means they can be deployed against traitors, not that they have the authority, or consider themselves to have the authority, to make the judgement on who is and is not traitorous.
Civilian control of the military is a good thing. But it also means that any thought of the military as a safeguard against any tyranny that worms its way in through civilian institutions is… misguided.
May seem sad, but in fact good if really works this way.
Since I’m in Russia and here shit went wrong (EDIT: after the last time shit went right) since Yeltsin using military to “resolve” a constitutional crisis in 1993 (not really a crisis, just when the Supreme Court says both Yeltsin and his opponents in the parliament should resign and have new parliament and presidential elections, that apparently is a crisis, because he’s the president, thus the boss and should be able to make all decisions ; that unironically was the main argument in support of Yeltsin, ex-Soviet people have a very weird idea of law and order, where the boss deciding something is “dura lex sed lex”, while referring to codified laws is “legal illiteracy”).
That’s not the point. The Military is no longer a tool he could use. Staying neutral unless things get really bad is a good thing. He’s already tried to use the military against protestors. (And the military told him to pound sand)
Am I crazy? I distinctly remember a military helicopter hovering quite low over protesters in a city and that very much didn’t feel like them telling trump to ‘pound sand’
Yeah, not crazy: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/pentagon-national-guard-helicopter-dc-protests/index.html
I appreciate the army’s attempts at trying to stay neutral but from my perspective they were already complicit in the trump regime and I have no faith that they would be any different if he gets another shot.
Not American, I thought national guard and army are different because the national guard do stuff like security at disaster sites and riots which the army aren’t allowed to?
You’re not crazy. The thing is there’s a difference between the national guard and the regular army. The national guard is used to control protests all the time by state governors. In D.C. Trump gets to act as that governor. What Trump wanted was a regular army Infantry division with lethal weapons. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs actually got into a shouting match with Trump over the issue.
When he couldn’t have that toy he tried to tell the National Guard to use live ammo without actually ordering it. He told them to use “all available means” to protect federal property. The National Guard however has trained extensively against using live ammo in protests since May 4, 1970. So they used every non-lethal method they knew, including the down wash of their medevac helicopters. Which the Pentagon later said not to do again as they consider that to be against the regulations for medevac helicopters.
Which kinda sucks, but it’s actually a good thing.
He’s gonna try having the police arrest the military
I’ll get the popcorn, you get the butter sauce?
“butter sauce” makes me uncomfortable.
Why? It’s very slippery, and lubricating.
Where can I read in full what the army said? I couldn’t find anything in their official press releases
It seems like it may have been emailed directly to news agencies. Apparent full text via a Fox News Correspondent on Twitter: https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1829174392300961928
Thank you!
The US Army published a measured response to the implicated poor behavior of an on duty servicewoman at ANC.
The Army would very much object to this being categorized as “against” Trump. Rather in defense of their service members and their correct actions.
The Army is careful not to overextend itself on political rhetoric and invite too much politics directly.
Yeah for them to say this much is a big deal considering they like to stay out of this stuff. It’s pretty much a harsh repudiation coming from them.
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You don’t need it. D.C. is an exception to Posse Comitatus. What’s likely is the Guard will be activated but not on site. So they’ll be about 30 minutes away if the police are getting overrun again. But I would be very surprised if the Metro and Capitol Police don’t do an all hands day and even more surprised if a crowd got through that. It would almost certainly require a use of force by the crowd that rises to armed insurrection anyway. At which point the NG gets the go ahead and either the 82nd or 101st (whoever has the alert brigade that month) gets a mass recall text. They probably wouldn’t deploy but those options have to start lining up early to be ready in case some large organized militia actually turns it into a fight.
The chances of things getting that far are statistically indescribable but that’s the reaction chain.
You mean give them something to latch onto if they win or lose? If Kamala wins don’t expect just Jan 6 to be a bad date, Nov 9, Jan 20-21, etc etc. if they win, they get to point at this “egregious overstep” and do more asshatery.
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After, retribution hits against dems and biden for overstepping their power.
Well as long as it’s an “official act” it’s not illegal.
We both know that means jack.
I’m struck by the similarities to Trump’s bible photo incident: Donald Trump photo op at St. John’s Church - Wikipedia
Edit: Link fixed, thanks to apfelwoiSchoppen
Why couldn’t the Army itself press charges on behalf of the official that was assaulted?
Not only that — what is the penalty for violating Section 60?
The army acts like the employee being assaulted was the only issue.
Because once again, Trump just gets away with it. This is fucking bullshit.
The army stated that they consider the matter closed according tovthe article. I doubt any legal action will come from this.
That’s not the point. Lots of people now see how tone deaf the entire campaign is.
I wish I could believe that.
It’s a cult though.
How often do cults end in mass suicide?
One cult too few so far
It turns out that the police will absolutely rise up but the military is all about protecting and following the chain of command. I used to think as you do but I’ve since seen so many times when they have expelled the crazies. There’s no union protecting bad soldiers from consequences.
I’m pretty sure they’re saying his followers are a cult, not the Army. His followers will easily take the word of him and his campaign over the Army and Arlington National Cemetery.
I’ve reread the comment a few times and still think that they were talking about the army. I do see what you mean though.
Well, at least the brass at Joint Base Henderson Hall, one of the cushiest appointments in the service, located in one of the bluest zip codes in the US.
This event will change exactly 0 people’s minds at the ballot box.
You say that yet everyone except the “base” is fleeing. Trump is limited to down ballot voters and whackadoos.
Look, come election day, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I’m just not seeing any conservatives “fleeing”.
It’s all over the news. Republicans coming out in support of Harris, etc.
It’s hard to know, but my feeling is that this is not a good look for trump.
Since when has that ever mattered?
Audio leaked of him admitting he sexual assaults women because he feels he’s entitled to, and he won the presidency. The “look” of anything Trump does is irrelevant.
The one true thing he has ever said was that he could shoot someone on fifth ave and not lose any support.
I disagree.
There’s certainly a lot of people that will just vote for Trump no matter what, but this election will be won or lost on the hapless fools who are still bobbling around in the middle easily distracted by phrases and headlines.
The “look” of anything Trump does is irrelevant.
It’s true that his loyal fans are blind to his egregious flaws, but this statement is nevertheless hyperbole. If it were true he wouldn’t need to bother campaigning.
Campaigning in the USA is all pageantry. He’s doing it for his own ego. Anyone who hasn’t made up their mind about Trump in the last eight years isn’t going to be swayed by this picture. It’s like the hundredth least worst thing he’s done.
Whoever hasn’t made up their mind about Trump in the last eight years is precisely the type of idiot who will be swayed by these types of things in the weeks and months before the election.
This isn’t going to be the foundation for a landslide against Trump. My point is, it’s not good for him.
I bet it will change more than 0.
Like 5.
I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore. Just gotta say my piece at the ballot box and hope for the best
I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore.
Yup. There’s no point caring, he’s a broken record of hatred. Just move on.
I’m actually impressed a former president currently running for reelection managed to fuck up pandering to the military so bad the Army called him out for it.
Yeah I’m so fucking tired of watching him break federal law out in the open with zero consequences over and over and over and over
Normalization of this shit is how the fascists get a foothold. In this very story we see that the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash. The absolute minimum thing you can do is stay angry. Enjoy passive opposition while it is still an option.
the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash
Does she say this or are we making it up?
Seems like she’s not making a big deal out of it because she’s in the army and someone shoving her a bit while rude isn’t a big issue in her day?
Guess I just can’t handle the minimum, then. My mental health is shot man, I need a break.
I thought it was an Onion article!
What happened to all troops that die in service being losers?
He really is a disgusting twat.
Still waiting for team trump to release the video that defends them lmfao
‘No video has been released yet’ to the surprise of no one.
Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung
This fuckin’ guy. Keep digging up Steve.
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“For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed [sic] grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.
This is vile.
It’s grammatically sickening.
But also very ironic since the man doesn’t know the word ‘hallowed’ is different than ‘hollowed’
OK, this reads almost Azeri.
