i think this is a good idea in 95% of cases. Some jobs obviously require being on call. In some cases, it’s necessary to have meetings with people in +/- 8h timezones. there should be appropriate compensation naturally.
Some jobs obviously require being on call.
If you need 24/7 coverage, you also need to pay those people to wait around on call. But just buzzing people at odd hours and demanding Just-in-Time employment puts a disproportionate tax on their unpaid time.
Medical staff will often have these extremely long - 20 to 30 hour - shifts because they want to maintain continuous care on a patient. But they also get paid for being active for that time frame. They don’t just teleport to the hospital when an ambulance arrives and teleport away again as soon as the patient is stable. Professional Fire Departments keep people on call in rotation so there’s always someone available in the event of an emergency. The volunteer system yields much worse results, as people holding down households and second jobs can’t drop everything on short notice to rush halfway across town with ease.
there should be appropriate compensation naturally.
But that will cost money. And paying more money means keeping fewer profits.
JFC, as a business owner I 100% not expect my employees to be reachable after hours. Why do these idiots don’t understand the basic principle: happy employee is productive employee. Understanding life happens and work is ‘just’ work. Give and take equally, be reasonable about stuff - basic human empathy… I hold my own personal time in high regard, it would be insane not to hold other people’s personal time in high regard too.
But Kevin O’Leary is a very honerable man /s
Fuck you, pay me.
but that’s why we made you salary with low wages!
You beat me to it 😂
He’s also ignoring the fact that if your job’s responsibilities are mission-critical, chances are you have a contract which stipulates situations in which you can be contacted after hours. It’s about Joe Schmoe IT guy being called in at 7pm while he’s having dinner with his family and being told to come to work because Greg the assistant to the Sales VP forgot his password again. Greg can fuck right off until tomorrow morning.
The server going down at 2am is mission-critical and the guy in charge of it will definitely be answering that call to fix it.
At my job we’re expected to at least try to be available if needed after hours which in my 3 years here has happened once and it took about 30 minute and I waited until my son went to bed for the night.
In return we get to leave for doctors appointments, picking up kids, errands etc without having to use PTO or make up the time. It’s a pretty sweet deal for the developers and no one abuses it to much.
At my old job they tried to get us to work after hours pretty frequently for a fraction of what our hourly rate was, we were salaried but when you broke it down you’d be getting like $20 an hour instead of $50. Ridiculous and almost no one did it.
Right, but he’s placing a subtle idea on people that wage theft isn’t a thing, overtime shouldn’t be a thing, and we shouldn’t have regulation for that. There’s a reason SREs get paid so much money, and it’s because it’s in their contract that they have to be the ones to rotate shifts and be up at 2am during an upgrade or otherwise, and he’s just mad he can’t pay everyone less and make more money
Just average capitalist things. Nothing to see here.
The only correct answer. Pay for that availability if needed around the clock.
he said in a clip he shared of a recent interview with Fox News
ahh yes, as broadcasted to the group who are consistently brainwashed to vote against their own best interests. mission accomplished
If employees start ignoring their boss’s calls, texts, and emails outside of work hours, an after-hours emergency might have to wait until the next business day, which O’Leary finds unacceptable.
Did this fucking fascist consider hiring more staff and going 24/7? How is it the problem of salaried workers that their boss is too fucking cheap to hire enough people to get the level of support that he wants?
Why would he do that when he could just work the to the bone, then fire them and hire more people?
If your service needs to operate 24/7, then it needs to be staffed 24/7. If it doesn’t need to operate 24/7, then staff will resolve the issue during normal work hours. Most businesses have IT teams stagger their start time so that someone comes in early and can deal with issues that may have risen the night before and prior to other employees arriving.
I made this a few years ago, about 6 months before walking out on a job I’d had for 11 years.
Fuck all these sociopaths. Right in the ear. With a rusty spoon.
And all these laws have carveouts for emergencies. Although I have a feeling Mr O’Leary would probably count having to do a presentation on Monday morning for some guy he met golfing over the weekend an emergency.
Not-slave owners?
That dude is a great illustration what Engels meant by comparing slavery to wage slavery.
what if you have to get a hold of them at two in the morning
People sometimes accuse me of being cynical, and yet here I was giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, thinking his objection might be that we don’t need such a rule because employees already had the right to not answer the phone by nature and tradition.
Worst Canadian in the world, maybe top 5 worst human.
He makes me ashamed to be Canadian.
I’d say Elon Musk too.
My general sense of this dude from Shark Tank is he’s an asshole. After reading about him for 5 minutes, he’s definitely an asshole.
Oh that’s employees boss. We’re the majority actually. And if you stop us from organizing or voting we’re still the majority, just angrier.
There’s a lot of talk these days about people being cancelled. This guy seems like the sort of person that would be an excellent candidate for it. I believe we, as a society, ought to collectively express our disgust at this kind of behavior.
So how is it done? How do we figuratively light the signal fires of Gondor and call forth the hosts to confront this evil?
Rich asshole with a reality TV show? Probably just as likely that we elect him president, wait for him to commit treason and more felonies than anyone can reasonably keep track of, and then fail to hold him meaningfully accountable for any of it.
Better that people do not know this but I am pretty sure he is Canadian. No Presidential risk.
He tried putting his hat in the ring for Canada’s PM. Didn’t get much momentum. His wife killing a guy with their boat came back up in the news. There’s speculation she took the fall for him because he was drunk and killing people while drunk driving your boat is generally frowned upon in Canada.
We could less-figuratively use O’Leary as the signal fires of Gondor.
Everyone should send these shitty people drawings of poop. Good ones, bad ones. Whatever your drawing level… draw a poop, lable it with “poop” if youre not sure theyll get it and send it. That should get across that we collectively think they are shit.
These types of assholes usually have po box for their businesses at the very least. On their website they typically have some sort of mailing address under “contact us.”
If we can get inundated with junk mail everyday from shitty businesses advertising I think we can return the favor on this one.
Edit - put the return address from the north pole
This could work.
#we’re not taking your crap anymore
Maybe #shitpostal could work? dunno how any potential sensors would handle that one though. Don’t want it getting filtered out or anything
You’re right on making it more pithy, but if prefer something like #nomorecrap
I like that one a lot more! No censoring to worry about.
I’d really love for this to take off. It’s a way to protest that people can participate in without having to disrupt their lives or take time off from work.So how do we do this? Post the campaign on anti work, work reform, etc? Do we want to post elsewhere, or see how far this goes on Lemmy?
Honestly I have no idea and just kinda posted that without thinking too far ahead, not even sure if it was a good idea or if it would get any traction. I’m excited that there’s at least some interest!
Post it whereever you think people would be interested in participating! Maybe start on lemmy first then branch out once people here seem to be aware of it? Then just see what happens! Hopefully some folks will participate.
I plan on sending some poop drawings this weekend to get the ball rolling. Maybe I’ll post a pic of it on lemmy too to spread the word!
Even better if you send it in their own, pre-paid postage envelopes they sent to you for whatever bullshit reason.
You realize you can send actual shit through the mail, yeah?
The mail carriers didn’t do anything wrong, why would I send something through the mail that could completely ruin their day?
I’m looking to offend that rich cunt, not some poor worker who has to clean up a package full of shit if it gets destroyed in transit. Plus, mailing a piece of paper with a drawing of shit is far cheaper than mailing a box.
Guillotine?
If Kev and his cronies keep pushing their neofeudalist garbage, that might just be the solution we’ll see.
Boycott the companies funding them
A couple hundred years ago, Kevin O’Leary would be whipping his slaves to death for objecting to being raped.
With the right vote he could be doing that in a few years too.
That vote’s coming in western Canada. So many short-sighted hillbillies rage-voting in some fatcat climate-change denying moron hell-bent on killing healthcare and personal autonomy under the banner of “woke==bad”. All the Dodge RAM pilots are eating it up – and not just to soak up the rye before heading out.
The ag industry just got thrown under the bus because the Liberals needed to suck american cock and bring in a tariff on Chinese EVs that nobody wanted. It’s not protecting anything in Canada, and now all canola shipments are under “dumping review” by China as retribution.
Hundreds of thousands of people in agriculture affected by this in order to accomplish nothing, but hey, we’re used to it. No wonder he doesn’t have any friends west of Ontario.
says the guy who definitely blows up his employee’s phones after hours
…and is irritated when he gets after hours calls.
Yeah he is one of those that won’t respond when people try to work out if issue is resolved
Oh, you just know that dickbag has an answering service, still. My asshole of a father did until he retired earlier this year.
If he wants to have people on call after hours - how about paying them for that?
