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I hear the silencer one a lot, and although it’s not nearly as quiet as media likes to suggest, they can be much quieter than you expect. There are a lot of variables to play with when it comes to guns and noise.
My neighbor at camp handed me his silenced .22 loaded with subsonic ammo. All I could hear was the action moving back and forth. So clear, I realized I had heard that exact sound because I have the same gun in a different form!
OTOH, it’s impossible to get a significantly silent supersonic round down to “quiet”, not even close. And none y’all better steal my new band name!
Shame most Americans take the term “silencer” literally. We’ll never see sane legislation. Meanwhile, in Europe, I’m told some ranges mandate suppressors, and at best, you’re considered a douche canoe blasting away without one.
Going to bite the bullet (heh) and get one on my AR when I can afford (and have time to figure out the tiresome paperwork and fees). The noise is stunning and I’d like to be more considerate of my country neighbors.
It’s not a myth that shooting two guns at once looks cool. It looks super cool. Accuracy has nothing to do with how cool it looks.
Padlock shackles haven’t been made of iron for around 120 years. They’re made of case-hardened steel.
I’m pretty sure you can hear someone who is yelling while skydiving, because my friend has a video of him skydiving and you can hear him yelling in the video. Camera microphones are usually worse at picking up sounds in heavy winds than human ears are.
Some of the others seem suspicious too, but I’m not sure enough to dispute.
A grenade pin is tight, but if people can open beer bottles with their teeth they definitely can pull the pin on a grenade.
They’re probably referring to the confidence clip. We used to tape the spoon to the grenade because if the pin got caught on your jacket, you’d have a really bad day. There’s actually an extra step before you pull the pin where you sweep your thumb across the spoon to allow the pin to be pulled out. If you just grabbed a grenade and tried to rip the pin out with your teeth, without removing the confidence clip, you’d rip your teeth out.
Oh ya I forgot about that, it’s been like… Close to 20 years
You wouldn’t have remembered if it was 20 years ago. That clip was introduced recently, I remember where I was the first time I saw one and that would’ve been like 2015.
Hmm, they definitely had safety clips back then, I just double checked. So might be a different design, but same concept. I just looked at the m67 Wikipedia page and that looks like what I’ve used.
Naw not 20 years ago, that’s 2004. Here’s an article from the Army talking about their introduction in 09, most Army units wouldn’t have seen till 2010.
I was in the USMC so adding about 5 years till we got them tracks lol. I absolutely was taught in the school house with no confidence clip and I remember what country I was in when I got training on it in 14-15.
Maybe my memory is just shit, it was a long time ago, I got out in 2011
Ok, I know nothing about grenades but from what I’ve seen I imagine there’s a spring mechanism and that is clamping the pin down. So wouldn’t pressing down on the clamp make pulling the pin easy/easier?
There are different types of grenades.
Ya, most grenades have a lever called a “spoon” that you press down that relieves some of the tension on the pin, and when you pull the pin and throw the grenade the spoon flies off and ignites the fuse.
MYTH: It looks cool to spoon two grenades at once and watch the pieces fly off in slow motion.
TRUTH: It looks very cool.
Jake Sully did this in his Avatar body during the Assault on the Tree of Souls, after Turuk Maktow put him on top of Colonel Quaritch’s Dragon command craft.
And yes: very, very cool.
Someone’s never played Pistol Whip.
Pistol Whip has an auto aim mechanic. You can disable it in the challenge settings and see how impractical it actually is to dual wield handguns
I disable it and see how awesome I still am.
I’ve seen a game show about pulling semi trucks uphill by the teeth, I’m sure an 8kg grenade pin pull force isn’t a stretch.
Almost all guns that can cause hearing damage (with repeated firing) without a silencer are still going to cause hearing damage despite that silencer.
It just takes a few more shots to accumulate the same level of auditory damage.
That’s how loud shots are despite the action of silencers. Silencers exist to protect your hearing when you likely only need to fire off one or two shots at most… with such few shots you can avoid the conspicuousness of hearing protection while getting that hit done.
I’m very confused on the grenade pin one.
If you held down the level (not sure what it’s called), wouldn’t the pin be fairly easy to remove? Why would that be harder than your teeth?
I’ve never seen a grenade in person.
Yes, you hold down the spoon and almost all of the tension gets removed from the pin, it’s made to be easily pulled with one finger by anybody.
If you’re holding the spoon, you can pull the pin.
For real. If it was that hard to pull then people would be dropping live grenades by accident even more than they currently are.
Check out my other comment but I’m pretty sure it’s because of the confidence clip. There’s actually an extra step where you sweep your thumb across the spoon to allow the pin to be removed from the grenade. After that yeah you probably could pull it with your teeth… but if you fucked up and fumbled it you’d win the Darwin award.
Really the myth should be about cooking a grenade. Absolutely no way in fucking hell you’d ever trust that fuse to “actually” be 4 seconds. What if it’s short and actually 3? And you wait to 2 to throw? Nooo way lmao
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- You can report people before 24h have passed but the cops may still want you to wait. They do this because they’re lazy/don’t want to waste time dealing with paranoid folk.
- A gun can be completely silenced when built to do so. Generally using subsonic ammunition and not semi-auto.
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To be fair they said “aiming two guns at once is hardly possible”. Means it is with enough practice? Lol. I hate this guide, full of half-truths and misinfo, not to mention completely withholding explanations.
And they used a picture of Neo. Might as well show a picture of Luke Skywalker and bust the “movie myth” that you can use the force to lift objects
Nice movie references
The poor potted plant.
Fashion is often very impractical so this makes perfect real sense actually
Also what about aiming both at the same target or using them alternating?
Shooting two guns at the same time sucks whether it is at one or multiple targets.
You can’t look down the sights on both at the same time, and the recoil is goofy because you can’t line both up with your body if aiming at the same target. So you are either shooting one blindly or two awkwardly.
What if shooting alternately?
Aim the left, shoot left, aim right, shoot right
That wouldn’t be shooting two guns at the same time.
I don’t remember exactly because last time I saw the Matrix was two decades ago but i had the impression that Neo didn’t shoot exactly at the same time but alternating, although at superhuman speeds
Edit: yes the handguns were shot alternately https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI (at around 1:10), but automatic rifles and uzis were shot at the same time
Iron padlocks?
The phone tracing one is misleading. It might take hours for the police to get the location from the ISP (I doubt that), but the phone call doesn’t have to be hours long.
Are they talking landlines? Because I’m pretty sure if Police already had contact with cell provider they could find where your phone was (within reason) by seeing which towers it is currently pinging off.
Im wondering about the grenade one. You would have no teeth afterwards? does it take a special leverage tool to remove or a supreme amount of burlyness. its not easy for teeth to be pulled out.
I think it’s the total time including the warrant order
It takes typing a single command to trace a call.
What takes time is getting the authorization to the person who has the password permission to issue that command.
Very few people at the phone company are allowed access to those commands.
Neo is a superhero using hacks in a video game world. Criticising The Matrix because Neo is better with guns than any real person is like criticising Superman because nobody can leap tall buildings in a single bound.
It is not a myth that shooting two guns at once looks cool. It looks cool AF.
Right?! Looking cool and being effective are two different things. I know what they went for but really poorly worded that one.
Since everyone’s having fun dunking on these, I might as well have a go and potentially look like a fool in the process. Note, I will be commenting on the accuracy of the chart and assessing whether the chart is correct, not the myth.
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Partially-correct. As someone else said, it’s very unlikely for you to restart a heart with a defib; they’re meant to stabilize a fibrillating heart (when the heart is beating irregularly and too quickly, like a heart attack). However, if you can get a person’s heart to start fibrillating by some other method, like CPR, then it can help stabilize them.
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Correct. It does indeed take longer than a couple seconds to knock someone out with chloroform. That said, supposedly plenty of other medical anesthetics that supposedly can put you out really fast.
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Misleading. Tracing calls is extremely fast, it’s getting the proper authorization that takes time.
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Iirc this is technically correct; forensic investigation doesn’t actually tell you anything about what happened, only what is present now. The explanation is what you get from the evidence. Seems a bit like saying, “guns don’t kill, it’s the massive trauma resulting from your body trying to stop a tiny lump of lead that’s flying at over 1k meters-per-second that kills you” but okay.
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Technically correct, but wrong in practice. This is such a widespread myth that cops will sometimes repeat it. Additionally, the time period can be anywhere between 24~72hrs, depending on the person responding. So if someone tells you to fuck off and wait, call and try again.
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Correct. >95% of the time the victim is too busy trying not to drown in order to yell or scream. You need air to scream, and if you’re struggling to get air, then screaming isn’t something you’re doing.
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Partially-correct. Aiming with two guns is possible, but significantly harder than shooting one. People try to do something hard like splitting their attention to aim at two targets, and then when they can’t do it, they assume that it’s impossible. No bitch, that’s like an archer giving up because they didn’t hit the target the first time. Don’t let your dreams be memes, gitgud.
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Partially-correct. There are some extremely quiet guns out there, and subsonic ammo helps quiet the gun further (bullets aren’t breaking the sound barrier, also lower powder load = smaller explosion). However, it’s unlikely you’ll get a gun down to a “pew pew pew” like in the spy movies.
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Almost completely wrong. Firstly, aim at center mass. Yes, it’s thicker, but there’s also a lot of air in there and the individual pieces of metal are probably thinner. It’ll be easier to hit and less likely for the lock to deflect the bullet (hitting a flat-ish surface vs curved one). Secondly, use something other than a .22 pistol.
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Mostly correct. If you have headsets then you probably could, especially if they cover your mouth, but otherwise basically correct.
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You see that little lever? You’re supposed to hold that down before you pull the pin. Dumbass.
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Eh, kinda. Depends on the asteroid belt. Planetary belt? They can absolutely be that dense (though they’re unlikely to be all that big). Stellar belt? Probably not, or at least ours isn’t that dense. That said, it’s a big universe out there and we haven’t even come close to visiting our neighboring stellar system, so who knows.
Tbh, some of these myths are so widespread and have such a high risk of causing injury from ignorance (like 5 and 6) that it should be illegal to repeat them in a way that portrays them as factually correct in media. However, based on my current knowledge, that’s my rundown on the trues/falses.
- Technically correct, but wrong in practice. This is such a widespread myth that cops will sometimes repeat it. Additionally, the time period can be anywhere between 24~72hrs, depending on the person responding.
It depends on the situation. I called in a missing person because I had a good reason to believe their life was in jeopardy and the police immediately responded. They ran a rough geo location on the person’s cellphone and dispatched an officer to check for them. They would not run a precise geo location without a warrant though, and that would probably have taken 24 hours or more.
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