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The grenade thing depends on the generation of grenade. Also depends on the country of origin. Assuming we are talking about the American M67 one you see in most movies, there are 3 different generations of safeties.
Quick basics of an American grenade- the spoon is the handle looking thing that is sticking out the top and runs along the side. Under it in the head of the grenade is a spring that is always trying to push the spoon off its hinge and make it fly off, while then starting the fuse and the whole bang process. The safety pin (a codder pin with a ring on one side to pull on) runs through the head of the spoon and is held in place simply through binding into its hole/channel by tension provided by the spring. For a little bit of extra safety the end of the pin sticks out about a quarter inch and is bent for a little, but easily straightened and pulled out with the ring (look up a picture and you will see what mean).
The old ones were just the safety pin held in place by the spring/spoon mechanism. But if you had excessive vibration or just enough pressure and you had pre-straightened the safety for pulling ease, it would negate the spring pressure and the safety pin could slip in and out with ease (thus easy to pull with teeth for Rambo effect). People didn’t trust it, so it was typical to then use electrical tape to hold the spoon down wrapped around the full body and then a bit extra folded back to make a quick pull tab. To throw: pull e-tape, pull pin, throw. The army then added a secondary safety to the safety. It was this secondary safety clip that held the spoon down to the head, providing constant tension and stopping the vibration loosening issues. They were also intentionally designed to have to get pulled off in opposite directions. To throw: (I am left handed) sweep safety clip left, pull pin right, throw. This was in my opinion the best setup and my favorite of grenade generations. Apparently this was about 50/50 with other others. So the army then came out with their third generation, the “confidence” thumb guard thing. It is a metal flap switch that locks/latches the safety clip onto the pin ring. I thought it was dumb. Most people hate it. But credit where credit due- it is impossible to fuck it up. Now to throw: thumb/sweep up on confidence latch, sweep left on safety clip, pull right on pin, throw.
It is not a myth that shooting two guns at once looks cool. It looks cool AF.
Right?! Looking cool and being effective are two different things. I know what they went for but really poorly worded that one.
Someone’s never played Pistol Whip.
Pistol Whip has an auto aim mechanic. You can disable it in the challenge settings and see how impractical it actually is to dual wield handguns
I disable it and see how awesome I still am.
A grenade pin is tight, but if people can open beer bottles with their teeth they definitely can pull the pin on a grenade.
Ok, I know nothing about grenades but from what I’ve seen I imagine there’s a spring mechanism and that is clamping the pin down. So wouldn’t pressing down on the clamp make pulling the pin easy/easier?
There are different types of grenades.
Ya, most grenades have a lever called a “spoon” that you press down that relieves some of the tension on the pin, and when you pull the pin and throw the grenade the spoon flies off and ignites the fuse.
MYTH: It looks cool to spoon two grenades at once and watch the pieces fly off in slow motion.
TRUTH: It looks very cool.
Jake Sully did this in his Avatar body during the Assault on the Tree of Souls, after Turuk Maktow put him on top of Colonel Quaritch’s Dragon command craft.
And yes: very, very cool.
They’re probably referring to the confidence clip. We used to tape the spoon to the grenade because if the pin got caught on your jacket, you’d have a really bad day. There’s actually an extra step before you pull the pin where you sweep your thumb across the spoon to allow the pin to be pulled out. If you just grabbed a grenade and tried to rip the pin out with your teeth, without removing the confidence clip, you’d rip your teeth out.
Oh ya I forgot about that, it’s been like… Close to 20 years
You wouldn’t have remembered if it was 20 years ago. That clip was introduced recently, I remember where I was the first time I saw one and that would’ve been like 2015.
Hmm, they definitely had safety clips back then, I just double checked. So might be a different design, but same concept. I just looked at the m67 Wikipedia page and that looks like what I’ve used.
Naw not 20 years ago, that’s 2004. Here’s an article from the Army talking about their introduction in 09, most Army units wouldn’t have seen till 2010.
I was in the USMC so adding about 5 years till we got them tracks lol. I absolutely was taught in the school house with no confidence clip and I remember what country I was in when I got training on it in 14-15.
Maybe my memory is just shit, it was a long time ago, I got out in 2011
Nice movie references
The poor potted plant.
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To be fair they said “aiming two guns at once is hardly possible”. Means it is with enough practice? Lol. I hate this guide, full of half-truths and misinfo, not to mention completely withholding explanations.
And they used a picture of Neo. Might as well show a picture of Luke Skywalker and bust the “movie myth” that you can use the force to lift objects
- You can report people before 24h have passed but the cops may still want you to wait. They do this because they’re lazy/don’t want to waste time dealing with paranoid folk.
- A gun can be completely silenced when built to do so. Generally using subsonic ammunition and not semi-auto.
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So reading through these comments and also based on what i already know, it seems like this coolguide is pretty much bullshit.
The phone tracing one is misleading. It might take hours for the police to get the location from the ISP (I doubt that), but the phone call doesn’t have to be hours long.
I think it’s the total time including the warrant order
Are they talking landlines? Because I’m pretty sure if Police already had contact with cell provider they could find where your phone was (within reason) by seeing which towers it is currently pinging off.
Im wondering about the grenade one. You would have no teeth afterwards? does it take a special leverage tool to remove or a supreme amount of burlyness. its not easy for teeth to be pulled out.
It takes typing a single command to trace a call.
What takes time is getting the authorization to the person who has the password permission to issue that command.
Very few people at the phone company are allowed access to those commands.
I knew the asteroid one, but it still baffles my mind to this day.
As far as the lock one, I have watched the lock picking lawyer open a padlock with a ramset gun 🙄 so yes it does work.
I don’t like this, I’d prefer if they provided a source or explanation. “A phone call takes up to an hour to trace”? Really? How do we even trace phone calls? Why doesn’t a defibrillator work? It’s not movies that taught us that! School taught me that shit!
Why doesn’t a defibrillator work?
In movies (and mostly cartoons), it’s often used as a solution to any ‘death’, so it’s more just misleading
- For the heart to pump blood, the muscles need to contract in a specific pattern. This is coordinated by a part of the heart using a form of electricity.
- When these contractions get out of sync and blood stops being pumped (ex. certain types of heart attacks), we can use a defibrillator/AED to get everything in sync again.
- If that is not the cause of the cause of the problem, the defibrillator wont’ work.
Iron padlocks?
Almost all guns that can cause hearing damage (with repeated firing) without a silencer are still going to cause hearing damage despite that silencer.
It just takes a few more shots to accumulate the same level of auditory damage.
That’s how loud shots are despite the action of silencers. Silencers exist to protect your hearing when you likely only need to fire off one or two shots at most… with such few shots you can avoid the conspicuousness of hearing protection while getting that hit done.
I hear the silencer one a lot, and although it’s not nearly as quiet as media likes to suggest, they can be much quieter than you expect. There are a lot of variables to play with when it comes to guns and noise.
My neighbor at camp handed me his silenced .22 loaded with subsonic ammo. All I could hear was the action moving back and forth. So clear, I realized I had heard that exact sound because I have the same gun in a different form!
OTOH, it’s impossible to get a significantly silent supersonic round down to “quiet”, not even close. And none y’all better steal my new band name!
Shame most Americans take the term “silencer” literally. We’ll never see sane legislation. Meanwhile, in Europe, I’m told some ranges mandate suppressors, and at best, you’re considered a douche canoe blasting away without one.
Going to bite the bullet (heh) and get one on my AR when I can afford (and have time to figure out the tiresome paperwork and fees). The noise is stunning and I’d like to be more considerate of my country neighbors.
