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Are the 3.1% that like the manosphere okay? Do they need help?
They actually have internalized misogyny.
It’s pretty externalized. Saying or typing that women are “femoids” and talking about any guy who treats women like they as actual people as an inferior breed then your misogyny is fully flapping in the breeze with the rest of the dirty laundry.
Internalized implies that it’s at least one step removed from cartoonishly obvious levels.
Had to Ctrl-F to find a comment about manosphere
So wtf is manosphere
All the Andrew Tate stuff. Low value men/women, general sexism and misogyny. Just weird, horny grfiters mostly.
It’s vaguely divisible between Incels, Men Rights Activists of the sort that like to complain to each other about how nobody cares instead of actually going out and doing activism and Pick Up artists.
Go figure the guys who treat women like they are sex vending machines who are the root of all societies ills aren’t popular with the ladies.
incel fetish
or “i can fix him”
or both
Maybe they didn’t know what it meant
4% margin of error, is my guess.
Foreign languages, bet they mean French and Spanish. And not the weebs learning Japanese or the Dutch
Also who would call their porn watching habits a hobby? It’s just something you do to kill some time, like scrolling social media. A hobby is something you can get better in or gain deep knowledge in. Calling porn a hobby is like calling eating, or shopping a hobby. Consuming stuff is not a hobby.
The random callout of the Dutch is pretty funny. Dodged a bullet there.
Ah! I see you never did competitive porn!
Barbados Slim?
I met a guy whose hobby was painting vulvas. It was a very active hobby and his apartment was covered with his work. He seemed very proud - his gf not so much lol
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100, 25, 75, 50, 6 and 8.
Your target is… 592.…what? We arent playing countdown?
Is it Sean Bean in the Dictionary Corner?
“Surely you’ve had worse things spat at you, Susie.”
That sean bean impression was amazing every time haha
Reading, instrument, cooking, woodworking, painting - lol cars, airbrush, graphics…, writing - I have a whole sci-fi universe, gardening, photography, astronomy, I can fab nearly anything.
I’m just partially disabled, live under a rock, and need a rich girl to take care of me in exchange for a ton of love. I don’t even bother looking, but if you’re in SoCal, hit me up lol, I’m still a 30-something until tomorrow.
I’m genuinely sickened that 3%+ of respondents consider manosphere attractive
They probably thought it was referring to spherical man butts
Who doesn’t love a good butt
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And here I thought we were friends, and now you’re telling me you hate an aspect of me 😢😂
Ehhh, take this upvote
I never heard of manosphere before this post
My takeaway is that gaming is a neutral.
The secret is couch co-op
My wife used to think that a man who knew how to work on cars was sexy until I built a racecar in the garage, and she saw the parts invoices.
She also used to think a man who cooks is sexy until she learned that I am a GOOD cook and consequently that means I don’t want help, I want you the fuck out of my kitchen, don’t sample the ingredients they are weighed and portioned for a damn reason and if you put sweet baby rays on a $50 cut of steak again it will be the last time I ever cook for you.
Hey I’m the good cook husband with a car problem too.
My wife never wanted to help cook though, she loves that I take it on by myself most times.
And I get the kitchen mostly to myself (though I’m sharing it with my son more now, which is slower, but pretty fun).
I taught my 4yo daughter to answer “Yes Chef!” When helping me in the kitchen. Its pretty adorable.
My 6 yo did “yes boss” for a while. But that’s less common lately. He still does it when we’re working in the garage sometimes though and it’s the best.
Yeah! You’re supposed to use mustard.
if you put sweet baby rays on a $50 cut of steak
Monster!
Grabs Heinz 57
You can come over on burger night… with the mustard guy.
I’m the primary cook in my family, and my wife loves it. But she also is a fantastic sous chef. She helps me out with everything.
It’s awesome having an extra set of hands in the kitchen and is also great bonding time.
My wife has 3 university degrees, she is significantly smarter than I am. She also reached under the blade when I was cutting to get a piece of carrot to snack on…
I can’t do a good job and teach and watch for harebrained dumbassery at the same time.
You might be right, but I don’t envy your wife.
So I gather this not about the hobbies themselves being attractive but about what’s attractive for a partner to have as a hobby, or even specifically a male partner? What was the question exactly?
What are these hobbies???
Yeah my hobby is Arguing Online
Spoken like a madman
Drinking
???
One of my hobbies is “drinking”. I love craft cocktails and craft beer. I collect craft liquors and share them with my friends. I even make my own cider and beer sometimes. Maybe home brewing doesn’t fall into the “drinking” hobby as much.
Come visit us at [email protected]
I do consider it a hobby, and would put it as a subset of cooking. I like cooking and entertaining, hospitality, making good drinks is part of that, and historically that means alcoholic drinks.
Fuck you, those can be hobbies! *drains shot*
Hey, pass me the hobby!
But you can combine those two hobbies, it unlocks some form of super power!
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ITT: people missed to poke fun at “blacksmithing”
Who on earth is blacksmithing as a hobby? Is that even possible except if your occupation is actually being blacksmith? Like, would you set up blacksmithing equipment in your garage?
Knifemakers typically.
you should watch forged in fire. the best competition show ever
Hobbyist blacksmith here.
I read a book on blacksmithing, built a small forge in the backyard, and put my tools in the garage. It’s fun, fascinating, and surprisingly approachable.
To start blacksmithing you need a space to pile up some charcoal, hairdryer and a tube, a hammer and tongs + something that can be used as an anvil(i have used a piece of old railway on a log
I have friends that 3d print and woodwork, plus one who was setting up a forge to smith when life threw some bad stuff at him (fire, car accidents, etc). It doesn’t seem strange to me. Lots of people like hobbies and smiting/knifemaking seems relatively popular, if a bit expensive.
On the other hand that woodworking friend had a whole lathe so a small forge doesn’t strike me as odd. A bit of googling suggests you can get some backyard forges between $70-300, and can just DIY and make your own. By contrast my camera (OM-D Em1 Mk III) cost me somewhere between $1.5-2k, with just one of my lenses also costing $1.5k.
My GPU also cost that.
Yeah you can easily set up a home forge.
looks at the apartment
I think my neighbours would prefer I didn’t
Yes. One of my coworkers has done exactly that.
That’s good to know. But I can imagine the electricity bill.
Blacksmithing is mainly done with coal, not electricity. So just imagine all the dust in addition to cost for that instead =)
I don’t want to.
Propane forges are pretty cheap. The real money is in the anvils…
Interesting, I didn’t know these existed. Thanks!
Yeah! For sure. You can pick up a little 3 venturi one for knife making for under $200. I’m no expert by any means, but I have my fun.
“Metal Fabrication”
My brother-in-law does smith knives for fun at home
I read all the time, everyday. In fact, I’m reading right now. 😎
As long as those languages include Assembler, C, C++, Rust, and a handful of others, I’m fucking set.
:'( i can read
I feel like the linel between ‘reading’ and ‘comic books’ is a bit unfair.
I mean there plenty of written stuff that’s demonstrably worse than anything in comics.
And comics that are absolutely amazing, like Sandman and Persepolis
My favorite lately is Bea Wolf, a retelling of Beowolf. Oh! And Pebble and Wren.
Sandman isn’t flawless but it’s the best stuff not by Moore. Fables (the first story that ends around 12-16 at least) was a fun read after finishing Sandman.
I think they should’ve polled superhero comics separately from comics in general.
i’m sorry blacksmithing? I mean it’s cool as fuck, don’t get me wrong, but have you seen that shit? it’s the LEAST sexy hobby by far.
Also, traveling is not a hobby, stop pretending it is. That’s like saying veganism is a hobby.
anyway, my main hobbies consist of playing minecraft or factorio like an autist, fucking around with linux, or philosophy, so i probably score, somewhere…
I think it’s more of what kind of people women are imagining as a blacksmith. They’re probably imagining a rugged man in their 30s/40s with practical muscle definition and enough financial stability to have the time/land for their own personal forge.
Likewise Travelling is just a proxy for “a ton of disposable income, and willing to take their partner to nice places”.
i guess from that perspective it makes more sense, but i feel like you could easily throw something like “yard work” in there it would be equally as strenuous and status based lmao.
Yard work is a chore. Gardening is on there though.
yes but now your suburban home looks good and you’re proud of it. Seems relative equivalent to blacksmithing to me. Especially considering blacksmithing is actually the precursor to weapons manufacturing.
Gardening is close, though i think different enough to warrant being different.
I wonder if hobbies here may mean what people talk about primarily, because some aren’t hobbies unless it’s all you do or something. Like arguing online.
that might be the case, but i think this list is just… Poorly compiled to be honest.
Without knowing the prompt they replied to and how the scoring scale worked, its hard to take much from it.
Its like we took the useful and personal responses from each woman, randomized them and included outliers and things from other categories, and spit them out in a useless pile.
i like to think it was just like, multiple different forms, not even one clean one. lol
I’ve looked up the original article and some other articles, and one thing I’ve noticed is the ones here on lemmy focus more on what is highest vs lowest, while some articles focused on the comparison between men and women.
They had ~800 respondents, 48% identifying as women. They asked the same question, which I don’t know the exact question but the gist was what percentage of women found this hobby attractive. There are some disparities in perception, usually towards the more attractive than men think.
For instance, one article pointed out men assumed 7% of women found MTG attractive, whike women responded with 28.5%. There were also charts that focused on the largest disparities:
What’s with the anti blacksmithing sentiment? Most people just find someone’s genuine passion to be an attractive quality, wherever their interests lie.
nothing wrong with it, it just isn’t sexy or hot. The only “sexy” part of it is one of the less involved parts of it.
You still have to do a lot of cleanup and build work after the fact.
I mean i literally said as much in the comment lol
Not sexy? Perrin Aybara would like a word.
“this real life hobby isn’t hot?”
links a fictional universe:
Apparently you’re not sexy enough to understand
maybe not, but to be fair, i’m not really sure how many people consider smelling like coal and tasting like sweat sexy.
Throw in some steel and abrasive dust. And hooo buddy do we have a cocktail of… something.
My wife loved the idea that I was into wood cutting. What she didn’t realize was when I said woodcutting, I meant I studied the blade and practiced chopping wood with my anime sword.
based
I’ve always made the distinction that traveling is just going to average tourist stuff, beaches, camping, hiking, stuff like that, while traveling as a hobby is more like actually immersing yourself in the culture
yeah i understand the difference, but like i said, i feel like it’s calling veganism a hobby. If you like travel to the point where you live in various different places of the world at different times, you don’t travel as a hobby, you travel as a lifestyle.
It just doesn’t feel right to call that a hobby to me. Is socializing also a hobby at this point? That seems like a weird thing to consider a hobby.
