Reddit is garbage because of the mods.
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I use it less and less. I only really visit two sub reddit, and one of them has been really declining as it has grown.
If you use Inoreader, you can just skip going to it for the most part.
Please elaborate
No.
To be fair reddit is still better than some instances of lemmy
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“Ruins the internet”
I happen to remember the forum culture of the mid-late 2000s. It wasn’t that great.
It was better though. Wouldn’t call it good. But definitely better.
Gotta disagree with that. I remember the rampant elitism and tribalism, the shock-culture, isolation of communities, casual bigotry that would make modern 4chan blush, arbitrary forum rules irregularly enforced, etc etc etc.
For all the modern internet’s problems, its communities are much more connected, it’s much more accessible and less elitist, that shock-culture died out, the casual bigotry became contentious instead of accepted, and corporate running the show on most of these sites means that appeals and reversals are much easier than when you would rub some mod the wrong way and get permabanned from a forum you were a long-time member of. Never happened to me, but I saw it numerous times.
Yes, but if you didn’t like one forum you just move on to the next. Today there are very few active forums left.
I do recall that people were extraordinarily toxic online. Reddit for a few years was a breath of fresh air but then got too big.
Wish I could experience it
It had unique pieces, and a lot that I genuinely miss. But… there was also a LOT of bullshit that wouldn’t pass muster nowadays.
It was pretty great, actually. So much creativity, everyone has a normal voice, no YouTube celebrities
So much creativity, everyone has a normal voice,
…
You might be wearing nostalgia goggles.
It started out great. It went to shit.
My account has been banned for like 2 years but I can still watch porn so idc.
The hardcore forums survived.
Are you kidding? They were some of the first to go.
What makes you think so? I read hardcore as ‘small and tight-knit’, exactly the kind of forum that could survive easily on user donations and due to the more personal relationship there’s more loss in leaving it. I know some forums that fit that description that are still around now.
None of the small tight knit ones I used have survived outside of VI Control. But even the remaining ones are barely turned up by search engines.
I’m sorry to hear that, that’s a shame. My experiences are more with gaming communities from the early 2000s, so perhaps my view isn’t universally applicable to other hobbies, professions, and such.
Nah, I’m happy to hear there are still some thriving out there. Gives me hope for the future. I’ve just noticed that I’m corralled towards Reddit any time I seek out the sorts of discussions that used to happen on forums.
Yeah I can definitely say for a while that was the case for me as well. It’s honestly why I like Lemmy, since by the nature of federation it can both be self-contained and owned by the people actually using it, but still kept around even if the specific instance doesn’t last forever.
So so so many of my old favorite forms are dead. I’m not sure I agree with you
I’m sorry to hear that. For me I’ve seen far more (relatively) big forums either turn into a discord, a subreddit, or just die out altogether due to being unsustainable for it’s cost. Just seems more logical to me that the less personal places have more trouble sustaining themselves, but we can disagree on that.
4chan was hating on Reddit before it was cool
Yeah but what good has ever come from 4chan?
Always seemed like a place for people to be subversive and provide a haven for hate and degeneracy.
Reddit is cool?
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Ah, the ol’ lemmy switcheroo!
hold my
beerlingerie, i’m going in!
I think they meant that hating on reddit is cool.
Yeah, this makes more sense
I’ve made an active effort to bookmark any active forums I come across. Even Lemmy doesn’t quite fill the niche that actual forums provide, though it is still useful.
Lemmy still has a lot of problems reddit does, just smaller and weirder. It’s probably not possible to create a “perfect” social media platform, but there still seems like room for a new type of social network that’s federated but isn’t a clone of something else.
What’s your favorite forum?
Civfanatics. I actually joined up long before I ever signed up for Reddit. It’s probably the one site besides Youtube that I’ve consistently used since middle school.
It’s about the Civilization games?
Yes.
I still use reddit for looking up information even after deleting my account. Yesterday i decided i wanted to compile the zen kernel for fedora. And reddit had the best guide for doing so. And what settings were worth a damn.
I’d argue discord is even worse.
It’s a toss up, for me. Both managed to capture all discussion on major open source projects.
Yeah, I feel dirty for even saying this…
Reddit allows site wide search, and recently contracted with Google to make their content accessible. Also old reddit content is searchable and thread based conversations can be followed.
Discord is just a vast collection of independent black holes that gobble up information and data while its users collectively yell into the void of chat channels.
Id say discord is a good place for already enstablished friend groups to hang out
It’s an excellent chat program (except it’s pretty buggy on mobile). But it doesn’t function well as a forum replacement. The lack of discoverability is a big problem.
Well yeah, because it’s not a forum.
It’s increasing taking up the role of one. And I’m sad about it.
I might stop being sad if its forum features become more used and Discord massively improved discoverability, but for now it sucks for people googling problems.
On one hand we have to move away from Google. On the other hand information should be made available to people. Hopefully we are just in a transitional phase and this isn’t just reigning in a internet dark age.
Well I said Google but ideally that would be “a healthy market of several competing quality search engines”.
Right now I think we only have Google and Bing. (Lots of alternatives like DuckDuckGo ultimately use Google I think)
My rule of thumb is, if it says, “Join our Discord,” I move on. I’ll only join a Discord if I want to discuss something, not if I want answers to questions.
That’s cool in principle, but what if I actually want help?
I just look up YT videos or find a wiki, and 90% of the time I can find my answer that way. It’s a lot nicer than trying to figure out where they stuck something on Discord…
Same here, except I won’t go on Discord for discussion either. I really loath the platform. I’d even go back on the dumpster fire that is Telegram before I go back to Discord. Good thing IRC still exists.
Yeah… shooting some nonsense back and forth. But game devs that shoehorn stuff into discord making everything objectively worse while making everything unfindable… it drives me nuts!
Not if those friends care about having their data sold to advertisers.
discord requires a phone number to create an account. hard pass.
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Oh definitely. At least Reddit can be searched (let’s see for how long though)
That’s not exactly true anymore. Reddit has deindexed itself.
That’s an adult themed subreddit. You’ll need to sign in on the app thanks!
At least Reddit can be searched by google or on site1,2,3
1 terms and conditions do apply
2 you need an account for some subreddits
3 you also need the app for some subreddits
Most toxic moderators of large subreddits does come from discord.
If you’re looking for a discussion board and end up in a chat room, of course you’ll be disappointed. That one’s on the user, not the service.
Yeah, it’s just that devs of games guide everyone there and try and shoehorn it in. I don’t know how or why devs do this… just run your own forum with a chat module.
Just say no. I don’t join any discord groups for crap like that, if it’s not on some public wiki, I don’t bother. Most games don’t need a community anyway, if I can’t find one readily available, I’ll enjoy it for what it is and move on to the next one.
Nobody likes reddit. Nobody. Everyone is just stuck with it and spez’s dumbass moneygrubbing bullshit.
I wonder how long that’ll last now that’s it a public company (or will be? I actually haven’t kept up on it too much)
bans controversial subreddits
They are ruining valuable conversation by banning GasTheKikes and Jailbait. My free speech!!! /s
It dies every time someone stops using it.
Disenchantment is the little death.
I thought fear was the little death???
No, fear is the mind killer.
What’s the next line?
The spice must flow
Its a joke son. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No sons allowed 😠
- Bene Gesserit
No You!
-Lady Jessica
That’s not what the Frenchman told me
Omelette au petit mort…
DU FROMAGE* YOU HEATHEN.
Dexter is a fucking nerd.
No, the Frenchman told you that ‘the breakfast is the little lunch’.
FYI it’s the female (only?) orgasm …
French being french ofc…
TIL
La petit mort
The bots will continue to churn like npcs in an abandoned mmo.
“ruins the Internet”? This coming from 4chan? That’s rich
4chan is kinda the sump of the Internet. All the crud sinks there.
Shit usually floats.
4chan, in part, ruined real life. So much of the initial meme buzz around Trump came directly from 4chan - god emperor, etc. /b/ and /pol/ had large coordinated campaigns to boost Trump for lulz and to fuck with people. These made the news occasionally and were sometimes quite wide-reaching. Edit: not to forget Qanon, pizzagate, etc.
Additionally, 4chan is responsible for a massive swathe of meme culture more broadly. Most people don’t dredge its depths or even know “the hacker named 4chan” exists, but it has been a massively influential force.
There have been dark corners of the internet for several decades now. 4chan is just one. Trump didn’t achieve popularity because of it. There aren’t enough users, and there certainly aren’t enough politically and economically influential users, for that to be true.
QAnon started on 4chan lol
imo redditors and 4channers think too highly of themselves if they believe they have real influence on elections. Most people aren’t online (except for Facebook), and politics are much more readily explained by material causes such as the Dems fcking up the post 2008 economic recovery and going for austerity instead of investment. The biggest proximate cause (non-material/economic) is just that hilldawg ran a bad campaign that didn’t focus enough on swing states (but she won the popular vote, congratulations).
4chan doesn’t nearly have the kind of traffic to ever have ruined the internet.
It used to. Used to be the #1 most visited website worldwide for many years.
I miss moot. Back when 4channers didn’t take themselves seriously.
Right now, mainstream internet needs 4chan to deflect their own issues onto even though they all have the exact same people using it.
Not soon enough.
