I don’t even understand the screenshot. it seems like a ban but reads like someons opinion about their opinion about someone else.
The turquoise text is the comment that op made which prompted a .ml admin to ban them.
The bottom text is the mods reasoning.
Yeah I get that. I think its because the banned comment is sorta sarcastic so its generalizing the opinion of the thing which then with the ban just gets sorta wierd to read. It feels like the not not not of pinochio from shrek.
Only 30 days?
They’re being reasonable 😏
I’m shocked it wasn’t a permaban, honestly.
Lmao of course this place is ran by hardcore war crime apologist PugJesus who advocates for jailing Edward Snowden and Julian Assagne.
Link?
You wanna post a screenshot where they say those people should be jailed?
Apparently thinking that Ed Snowden has better PR than intentions is a violation of dogma.
Maybe people who hold power are all conniving bastards to some degree, and all of them should have their dirty laundry aired.
Makes me think lemmy tankies can’t admit even their saints are flawed humans, too, because that’d mean they could never become perfect and can’t bear ever being wrong.
Please don’t air my dirty laundry 🥺
Joking aside, I have two primary problems with Snowden.
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His leaks were not just of the moral variety, but also exposed US spycraft. That’s… not great.
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I would have been much more convinced of his idealism, even as a change of heart from his prior opinions, had he gone somewhere other than fucking Russia. You expect me to believe you’re too moral to stand by while the US spies on its own people, and then go and settle quietly under Putin’s regime? Moron, hypocrite, or actual authoritarian scumbag, it doesn’t matter to me at this point. I have no desire to see him jailed at this point, but he’s no hero to my eyes.
I’m pretty sure Snowden is very opposed to Putin and everything the Kremlin does. He knew he’d be safe there. It was a smart move, evidenced by the fact that over a decade later, the world’s richest government hasn’t arrested him. Do you agree with the politics of your country’s leaders? I certainly don’t, but that doesn’t make me immoral for living here.
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Sorry, but nothing in there even mentions jail, Assagne, or war crimes.
Why obama wont pardon edward snowden
What do you think it means to not pardon someone? It means jail.
In Snowden’s case not really. Him not getting pardoned just means he remains in exile. And I’m not even seeing anything in explicit support of that.
Tell me more about how October 7 was Legitimate Resistance™. God knows you can’t get it up unless civilians are getting murdered.
Boo fucking hoo, you were wrong and come crying here about “tankies”? You are the exact same, just on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Get some self awareness. NATO is a bunch of warmongers who managed to get Putin to do the greatest PR coup for them just as they were losing significance - and now they could be important because at this moment Russian regime is the greater evil. But instead they do fuck all in helping Ukraine to a decisive victor, proving again that those shitstains just want to prolongue the conflict to line the pockets of their buddies in the military industrial complex. Disgusting fucks, all of them!
they tricked Putin into genocide 😤😭
How weak is your position if the only “argument” you have is pretending to quote something that you invented yourself?
I have no interest in debating you. Enjoy your blood money.
Yeah You indeed are a disgusting fuck
and you’re a little cutiepie who needs a hug. smooch
Figures, consent doesn’t seem like something that both you and the Russians understand.
And you felt like responding to me instead of the previous poster whose insecurities led him to lash out like that? Right on, nothing wrong with your brain, keep living your life just like that…
It’s funny how NATO members continue to throw more and more money into the alliance like they’re about to be attacked tomorrow. Russia can’t even conquer a third of Ukraine, so they’re hardly going to be much of a threat to everyone else.
If NATO is indeed a defensive alliance and the deterrent works, then there’s no need to put so much money into it at the expense of domestic needs for each member state.
It’s a fantastic revenue stream for arms manufacturers who can keep getting fat contracts to make more equipment. The day the war ends it will be a disaster for them.
That is indeed the way it appears that the west is viewing this conflict. A great way to make extort a lot of money from taxpayers for “not enough to live but too much to die” support for Ukraine, and it’s perverse that the powers that be don’t even blink at sacrificing the lives of tens of thousands of Ukrainians for that.
And come to think of it - a shorter conflict would also mean less Russian lives lost.
Capitalism is murderous. :(
Comment more, comment harder.
The world rejoices when troglodytes like yourself get outted and labelled.
Can you guess which tags I have over your username?
Can you guess which tags I have over your username?
“triggers my insecurities”?
Make sure you don’t pull a muscle performing all those mental gymnastics.
NATO is a bunch of warmongers who managed to get Putin to do the greatest PR coup for them
Lmao. I refuse to believe that any sane, adult person can hold this opinion. Nobody’s THAT fucking stupid, right?
Nobody’s THAT fucking stupid, right?
Narrator: “They were, in fact, THAT fucking stupid.”
I love that NATO is even Putin’s puppetmaster.
Look, NATO is bad, that’s why it’s absolutely necessary for anti-imperialism purposes that Russia invades its neighbors before they can get into NATO!
This is logic amped up to 11 right here, folks.
Which works about as good as rhe war on terror
“Bro just one more invasion bro I swear this time it’ll really solve
terrorismWestern Imperialism™ for good!”Problem is, Russia is technically in the west.
Something something, Eurasian realignment BRICS Imperial Core Global South Anti-Colonial Axis of Resistance.
I think I’m ready to start my career as a professional tankie!
I am still amazed at the 12 dimensional chess thought process of invading a country that didn’t join NATO to discourage joining NATO. All that socialized vodka in the maternity ward must be getting out of hand.
Gentle reminder that blocking the entire Lemmy.ml instance has made this place a lot less … tankie
Can you do that yet without your instance just entirely defederating?
Most apps have a instance block in the settings.
Sync has it as an app option, and several of the apps I was using prior to sync had something similar.
This has vastly improved my experience on Lemmy’s Top 6 Hours
Hey that’s my go to default sort as well.
Thunder has it too
No. User-level instance blocking is not the same as instance-level defederation. User-level instance blocking is equivalent to blocking all the communities from that instance. AFAIK you’ll still see posts and comments from the blocked instance in other communities. More problematically, the blocked instance still influences your feed via its votes.
Yes. Go to: settings > blocks > scroll down
At the end of the page, below your blocked users and communities, there is a list of instances, which you blocked. You can add instances there aswell.
I’m using thunder, on mobile. All I know is I am on lemmy.world, any idea how to modify what instances I am connected to with that?
Account > gear icon / settings > User/Community/Instance Blocks > Instances
You can manage your blocked instances there.
On Thunder, you can also long press on a comment or post, and it will bring up an action menu. If you click the “Instance” option there, you should see a “Block Instance” option.
Please be aware that user-level instance blocking is not the same as instance-level defederation. User-level instance blocking is equivalent to blocking all the communities from that instance. AFAIK you’ll still see posts and comments from the blocked instance in other communities. More problematically, the blocked instance still influences your feed via its votes.
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I got banned on a lemmy.ml sub for pointing out a post was misleading, that’s it.
I think I was banned from some communities there but I don’t remember which ones and haven’t missed them. I’m probably better off.
I got banned for posting a ProPublica article in their World News community.
People here complain about reddit mods being power tripping, but my experience on Lemmy has been equal if not worse. Ml and hexbear being obvious examples, but I’ve even gotten 7 or 30 days bans, with no warning, for stupid shit that I’ve seen plenty of other people do, in a news sub and aboringdystopia, obviously because the mod disagreed with my opinion, they were just using some minor violation of the rules to justify banning me.
Oh it’s absolutely worse here.
Mods have removed my comments for dumbest shit.
Edit:
https://lemmy.world/comment/12050823
My removed response:
I’ve never bought any Apple product, you triggered ball of catpuke. I’m just pissed at Android manufacturers copying Apple without offering any pros of iPhone. 5 year old iPhone still updates to latest iOS. Good luck trying to do that with 5 year old Android. Keep raging at the mere mention of Apple though. Sounds like a wonderful existence.
I mean this is a stupid take but if I were a mod I’d leave it up (for everyone to see).
It’s a stupid take to say Android manufacturers are copying useless features from iPhone?
yes, that’s a stupid take
Ok, shove that Android without headphone jack where the sunlight doesn’t shine.
That is a personal attack. I’m for that kind of moderation.
In response to someone telling me to keep swallowing Apple marketing wholesale.
Did you even read what he wrote in response to my original comment?
You can’t tell the difference in alluding to someone being gullible and calling someone a triggered cat puke? One is a comment on your behavior (swallowing marketing) and the other is a direct insult. One might be a personal attack, the other one definitely is. Just be kind.
I’ve never even once bought any Apple product ever. I’ve been using Android since last 12 years. So yeah, when I have a legitimate complaint about the direction Android is going in and this is the response I get to it:
It never ceases to amaze me how iPhone users think… But hey, keep on swallowing that Apple marketing wholesale though.
Then fuck that asshat and if you think his reply was justified then fuck you too.
Then fuck that asshat and if you think his reply was justified then fuck you too.
Save the hostility for the tankies. Or at least take it somewhere other than here. We’re here to hate red fash.
The difference is that the mods in many cases also run the instance. If anything that could be worse for power tripping!
But you can always remove those instances from your Lemmy experience. Not always a great option if there’s only one good community for something (e.g. news), but supposedly people who agree with you do the same and make a new community. Given nothing can last forever and even your own instance can grow terrible with time (as Reddit subs sometimes did), it’s nice to be able to hedge your bets.
Example, nothing of value was lost defederating from hexbear.
Dessalines literally changed how mod log reports work (to not show who took the action or if it was an admin) early on because it was a bad look that he was censoring and banning so many users over very mild perceived slights. The dude is clearly off his rock at this point, ironically showing exactly what Marxist-Leninists do with even a tiny bit of trivial power.
One time I posted a meme on a Blahaj community I moderated where someone named [email protected] was being transphobic. Ada, the instance owner, private messaged me to say I needed to redact the username or my post would be removed. She said Obvious_Troll is a real, trans Lemmy user and I’m not to attack them. There is no user called Obvious_Troll, I made that username up for the meme. Ada defended a fictional transphobic troll because they were from Hexbear.
Lemmy has a serious admin problem.
I think Ada is afraid of ever hurting a trans person, like by excluding them from their community, even though their job is to moderate users on the trans instance.
A lot of folk either have forgotten or never experienced self regulated communities that existed prior to social media.
It is a culture shock to see disagreeable or stupud takes instead of them being removed from their sight and feeds without engagement or even knowledge.
I’d be glad if NATO didn’t exist.
It would mean countries wouldn’t feel threatened by their neighbors, and no invasions would happen.
But until that is the case, NATO is necessary.
Every species has weapons embedded into its body, some organisms are specialized members of the species, such as queens and babies, but all species spend a portion of their precious energy budget building weapons.
Given how ruthlessly evolution prunes out anything that doesn’t give an advantage, I think this gives significant information about the nature of existence.
Hostility appears to be as universal as entropy, and just as manageable.
Fun fact. Being the most complex object in the known universe. The human brain is the lowest entropy place we know…
The most complex object in the universe … according to the brain.
Life feeds on life
I’d like your comment more if it said: “I’d be glad if NATO didn’t have to exist”
And I’d like your comment more if it said “Ricky is the bestest person on all of the world” but we can’t all have what we want.
I would much prefer every country in the planet being in NATO.
Any country attacks any other country? Literally the whole world goes to defend it. So no invasions are possible.
It wouldn’t work though. Wouldn’t take much time for alliances to form that agree to not follow NATO’S rules.
Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states
Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states
When did the US invade a member of NATO, again?
Sorry, their presumed mission of ensuring peace in Europe through collective defense.
It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.
But you’re right, the explicit mission is to protect their members and noone else, so I guess everything is working as intended
It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.
lol
Tell me more about how America’s aggression turned the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake.
Fascists like you just can’t help yourselves when it comes to Russia, can you?
I have no problem acknowledging Russia’s aggression and imperialist activities, but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.
NATO ends up categorizing conflict in Europe into two sides and ignores all conflict originating on the member side. An alliance that includes all members would at least in-theory be more equitable, but we already know that even a global supergovernment can selectively enforce their mission and ignore offenses by particular members.
but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.
Hey, want to tell me what the European conflict going on right now is and who instigated it?
Maybe you could also do the last major European conflict too, just for fun?
“NATO is sabotaging European security” is such a braindead talking point that requires not just ignorance, but active denial of reality. It’s unsurprising that fascist shitheads find it so very appealing to parrot.
Nah, I want war. I want the rest of the world to go to war with the US. They’ve got a Nazi problem. We beat the Nazis in 1945 and we might need to beat them again in 2045.
Lmfao who’s the warmonger now?
My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.
My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_massacre#False_leads
NATO isn’t there to defend you, it’s there to serve the interests of a bunch of rulers and elites
I mean the rulers and elites live in the same countries as many of us do and they sure as shit don’t want war where they live. It might not be here to defend us, but it’s here to defend the countries we live in.
War is a business and a tool to get more power. Rulers and elites cares about money and wealth they don’t give a fuck about the planet or peasants. Just look around yourself
That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting, but you can profit off of. Which is why they’re still incentivized to keep peace in their own countries, but not so much half a planet away.
That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting
If you are a ruler you probably don’t give a fuck about anything that isn’t money and power.
What good is money and power when you have to live in a bunker?
Idk ask them. Billionares or authoritarian rulers are basically addicts who don’t make rational choices. Their “bunker” is probably a palace with servants
That might be hard to grasp but sometimes the interests or rulers and elites do align to some degree with the average person in their country. Most rich and powerful people have a lot of investments that are worth significantly less when unpredictable things such as invasions happen that disrupt trade.
Humanity is literally on the verge of extinction due to global warming and you still believe rulers gives a single shit to anything that isn’t money or power? War is a business.
Extinction would kind of interfere with the whole power and money thing.
Go explain that to the biggest 10 companies in the world. I doubt you have enough money to sit at their table. Stop giving a fuck about everything around you and focus on money and wealth alone and perhaps you will get a chance to talk with their executives.
I was just pointing out a flaw in your reasoning. There are no simple answers to complex questions.
I think it’s simple to see how greedy people try to take as much as they can without thinking of the consequences. Money and power are a drug
Believe it or not, both things can be true
Did you even read any of the link posted?
“Only your side can be evil and not mine!”
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true dat
I can’t hear you with that imperialist cock brushing against your tonsils.
Are you my hundred year old Jewish great uncle? How’d you get on here?
Not everybody will understand your comment, but you are right.
What happened in Libya according to them?
Poor Gaddafi was attacked by the corrupt NATO, to the disgust of the rest of the world (except that it was resolution by the UN security council).
Except there is strong evidence that Western powers (predominantly France, the UK and US) created the fiction of Gaddafi being a global supervillain and then used NATO forces to enact regime change in Libya, under the pretext of “preventing civilian casualties”. In fact, the real objective was to secure Libyan oil reserves and open the country up to western markets.
NATO is often used an extension of Western foreign policy. To pretend it is solely a benevolent peace keeper is just as simplistic and naïve as saying that everything the West does is pure evil.
there is strong
evidencepropaganda.You people seriously hate history and facts, don’t you.
And what is dropping this wikipedia link supposed to prove?
Does it contradict the scholarly article I cited which supports everything I said?
P.S. who is “you people”?
The article was supposed to educate you on what type of person and leader Kadaffi was but something tells me education is not your strongest suit.
“You people” are teenage armchair communists with zero life experience and disdain for history books.
Interesting, thanks
Gaddafi was a supervillian. Almost literally:
.It also wasn’t NATO who directly killed him. His own citizens did, and they weren’t kind about how they did it.
NATO also wants stable oil reserves. Both these things can be true.
Gaddafi was so popular among Libyans that in the end they dragged him to the street and raped him with a sword. Allegedly.
You think that couldn’t happen with Biden?
No. He might get assassinated by an individual or a small group of conspirators. He won’t get paraded through the streets while being raped with a sword until he dies. But nice try.
It’s weird that some random German thinks they know what American hillbillies are capable of or actively talk about doing when their memory doesn’t even go back more than three years and they have literally zero knowledge of history or the nature of angry mobs.
Oh, no, wait, that’s not weird, I always forget some people are just average.
He certainly played up to the role, presumably for egotistical reasons, but most of it was sabre rattling bravado. He wasn’t seen as a genuine threat by Western intelligence agencies.
Also, NATO forces didn’t have to kill Gaddafi directly in order to be instrumental to his deposition. Their air strikes were highly effective in destabilizing the regime and empowering opposition forces within Libya. Besides, you only have to look at the history of US intervention in Latin America for many examples of how regime change can be carried out via proxies and rebel groups.
US involvement in South America has been brutal- murder, terrorism, starting civil wars…Societies were torn apart in ways they may never recover from. How can you consider this an option and publicly advocate for it? That’s fucked up
Edit: ITT people downvoting me who don’t want to hear about US operations in South America and also people who like US operations in South America.
Cause it’s whataboutism, not cause it’s wrong.
calling something whataboutism is such a cop-out. what has the user said that distracts from the greater debate?
Yey USA tankies!
He certainly played up to the role, presumably for egotistical reasons, but most of it was sabre rattling bravado.
My dude, this ignores like 40 years of him being the most unhinged leader in North Africa. He’s always been a wild card on the global political stage, swinging wildly from befriending revolutionary leftist, and then immediately dumping them for right winged dictators.
The man literally tried to sell surface-to-air missiles to a street gang in Chicago… No one had to make him seem crazy, he was crazy.
Now that doesn’t mean I think the US should have intervened, but I don’t think anyone had to really do any work to make him seem like an insane supervillain.
That also overlooks all the times western powers were friendly with Gaddafi. They didn’t mind him following his ascent to power, nor in the post 9-11 period when the U.S. and European countries restored diplomatic ties with Libya, and Western oil companies re-entered the Libyan oil sector.
In 2007, the UK’s Tony Blair visited Libya to strike up energy deals, and France’s Sarkozy met with Gaddafi for military and economic agreements.
Was Gaddafi a supervillain then too, or did he only become one when his interests were no longer aligned with the Western powers?
That also overlooks all the times western powers were friendly with Gaddafi. They didn’t mind him following his ascent to power, nor in the post 9-11 period when the U.S. and European countries restored diplomatic ties with Libya, and Western oil companies re-entered the Libyan oil sector.
That was my point about him swapping out friends sporadically. Gaddafi had massive swings in political alignment throughout his time as leader of Libya. The reason nato/un could actually make a move on his government without greater political ramifications is because he’s burned every bridge across the political spectrum.
Was Gaddafi a supervillain then too, or did he only become one when his interests were no longer aligned with the Western powers?
Literally yes… Is it that surprising the west would work with a crazy despot that has a bunch of oil?
During Arab Spring, the West was (naively) hoping that Libyans would rise against Gaddafi and create a democraty. When he saw what was happening, he threatened to a) flood Europe with migrants and b) expose Sarkozy’s illegal campaign funds.
a) made him a political adversary, b) made them launch a military campaign to topple him
All the happy cake days to you! What will you do with your time without them? ;) EDIT: i.e., without lemmy.ml
except that it was resolution by the UN security council
You mean the Security Council over which Russia has veto power? That UN Security Council?
Russia’s decision to abstain in that vote happened under the notoriously “liberal” Medvedev and was a point of heated disagreement between him and Putin. It was arguably the breaking point for Putin deciding he needed to hold onto power indefinitely or else (in his view) a liberal president would let NATO do whatever they want, with Russia presumably being next on the chopping block
Is that why Medvedev is constantly on X threatening to nuke NATO like every 5 minutes?
Thanks for the reminder, happy cake day
One air campaign in Libya (permitted by UNSCR 1973) > fourteen Russian invasions
Checkmate, Westoids
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Sure I’m a NATO apologist: I’m sorry NATO is necessary because Russia is such an antagonistic fuckwad.
Russia had a choice: play by the west’s rules, or play second fiddle to China. They chose the latter unfortunately for them and for us.
That’s just what happens when you go from tsarist serfdom state to a communist peasant regime to a “democractic” dictatorship while constantly greasing the gears with vodka and corruption.
Hey at least the alcoholism has gotten a little bit better, right?
Hey, you’d think so, right?
I mean, even if we trust the numbers coming out of a propaganda-riddled shithole whose only saving grace at this point would be a couple hundred strategically placed nukes (which - to be clear - I don’t. Their entire government+military is probably downing shots just to get through morning briefings). Even trusting their sources, they’re still back on the potato wild ride again. At this point I can only commend the nation for slowly killing itself, and blame them for not choosing a speedier route.
Actual quote from Vladimir Putin:
Dear NATO, we regret being imperialist bastards. We regret coming to Ukraine. And we most definitely regret that the VMSU just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!
Oorah! Lol.
The world was deeply afraid of Marxism. When Russia experienced a workers-led revolution in 1917, Western powers were terrified of the spread of Marxist ideas and the potential threat they posed to the capitalist world order. In response, several Western states, along with their client states, sent their armies into Russia, aiming to overthrow the newly established worker-run government under the Bolsheviks. We attacked first, in an effort to suppress a system we feared.
This antagonism continued and evolved over the decades, culminating in the Cold War, where tensions between the Soviet Union and the West defined global politics. The Cuban Missile Crisis stands out as a key moment in this conflict. In fact, it was the United States that, in violation of international norms and against the Geneva Convention, installed nuclear launch sites along Russia’s borders in Turkey, heightening the threat and contributing to the Soviet response of placing missiles in Cuba.
Historically, it’s clear that we have been antagonistic towards Russia, driven by a fear of communism and a desire to maintain Western dominance. This pattern of confrontation has had long-lasting effects on the geopolitical landscape, contributing to the strained relations that persist today.
Dont take my word for this stuff, you can easily find information online, in text books.
Not to defend Western European imperialism in Russia because fuck that but no one did more to destroy the newly established worker-run government than the Bolsheviks. I’m assuming you’re a ML–unfortunately they don’t allow factual discussions of history, so you’ll need to read some history outside of the thought bubble to learn the truth.
Trotskyist, so all up for discussion and challenging my understanding. Point me in the direction.
A lot of it is from many articles and podcasts I’ve read but here’s a decent if long overview. https://blackrosefed.org/workers-power-and-the-russian-revolution/
If you prefer an audio format, I recommend this video (the visuals are optional so I usually listen in the background). https://youtu.be/uwU3STgBknQ
The whole series is worth a listen but would be a big time commitment.
Those… aren’t even mutually exclusive opinions? NATO can exist for more than one reason.
There is only one good opinion at any time, citizen. The correct opinion (my opinion) can change any time, but any different opinion is doubleplusungood.
Yup. I was raised in communist Poland and I’m really tired of this. Some people are just allergic to history books and open speech. Looking at you teenage armchair communists. Grow up.
No no no, they said “what about–,” so the argument is over.
Well if NATO exists for more than one reason and serve multiple purposes, then claiming NATO exists only for defensive purposes is wrong. Since it also exists for other purposes. Then it is also wrong that it is necessary harmless to Russia. I believe that is a logical conclusion?
But as soon as you express such an opinion you get branded a putinist and downvoted. That is why the lemmy.ml community protects itself from
nato expansionlemmy.world users.This question is so hot because it goes towards Russia’s justification for invasion, and for the claims of Ukraine and US to be completely innocent in the causes for the war. IF nato not only serves as a defensive organization but also serves as a tool for regime change then Russia does at least have a shitty justification for a preventive war - to prevent more arms building in Ukraine. And the war clearly has shown that Ukraine with enough weapon supplies by the west is a serious threat to Russia.
You do NOT have to be a tankie to be angry about the “brinkmanship” of the US, Ukraine and nato - and Russia. You can be angry at all parties. But the overwhelming propaganda or dogma on reddit and lemmy.world is that only Russia is to blame. This makes any diplomatic solutions impossible.
That is WHY the propaganda is so strong and why this opinion that nato eastward expansion represents not just defensive purposes is not allowed. Because otherwise you might end this war diplomatically.
Now the overwhelming majority of users will not give one inch on this position. You see how they make fun of this very serious and painful topic. I feel empathy for all the ukrainian and russian lives lost and get angry at the jokers preventing any honest discussion about the causes and possible solutions to this war. It is as painful as the israel/palestine conflict. So .ml and hexbear DO need to protect themselves from these kind of “nato is only defensive” crap because frankly, it is painful.
In this “post-truth” sense there is little difference between liberals or “lefties” and MAGAts. They deny historical facts or logical arguments. Except that the magats are weirdly also pro russia because of trump. That does not mean ml users are “pro” Russia or tankies. That is just a slur. There is plenty to hate about Putin. Especially his interference in social media and elections is abominable. But the neoliberals are no better!
