as a person that came from the 3rd world country and new in fediverse environment, i genuinely would like to know about this.
edit: thanks for the replies! sorry, i literally don’t know the reason since i’m not a western lol. twitter/x is too biased especially when musk openly supports trump so i came here and seeing fediverse is mostly are harris or biden (when he’s still up for the candidate) supporters. don’t know about reddit tho, i only use reddit as a forum for linux and programming stuff.
There is [email protected]. I don’t visit that community but I assume they are supporters.
Its like on “conservative” mod shilling genertic GOP talking points with cherry picked facts and dozens of demoractic shills shilling their brain dead takes.
Republican ideology has no under pinnings beyond fuck poor for the benefit of the rich.
Ask these conservatives about maternity leave and want them get bent out of shape explaining away why we can’t just have it 🤡
They’re here, anything pro trump is often downvoted, and most things heavily critical of the Dems are also often downvoted.
For better or worse, there’s not a lot of right wing stuff that makes it into the positive on votes.
If you sort new, you’ll see it pop up from time to time.
It’s hard to tell sometimes, but it certainly feels like some political regimes are trying out dropping propaganda here or there into the conversation. I’m sure most of it is from genuine users, but there are some comments that just look like they’re here to stir up dissent.
The difference to Reddit et al is that votes don’t generally matter a huge lot in here. And you can easily hide them.
For better or worse, there’s not a lot of right wing stuff that makes it into the positive on votes.
That is for the better.
It would be nice to have some opposition, though. Even if most “conservative” media right now is little more than xenophobia, or cult worship, there do exist sound arguments against the typical internet-left positions. I don’t have a solid enough read on what comes through New in the fediverse to say whether any of that is being submitted and just downvoted off everyone’s feeds, or if all that’s being submitted is the average conservative media junk.
Still, political spaces without opposition/diversity invariably degenerate into purity contests, and circle jerking.
Conservative media comes through plenty in the form of business, tech and mainstream media sources 🙄
Don’t confuse the fact that Republicans have become degenerate doesn’t mean their ideas are the basis of conservative ideology.
No, there’s really not sound arguments against them. That’s why nobody ever hears sound arguments.
Stop assuming ghosts exist because you saw a picture frame on the wall move when a large truck went by…
No, there’s really not sound arguments against them.
That’s like saying there are no trade-offs to any policies; it’s simply not true. I’m as left as they come (not American left, British), but failing to admit there are flaws or sound arguments against left-wing ideas is very ignorant.
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Not what I said, is it? The person said there are no arguments against “the typical internet-left positions”; which I disagree with. If such positions were infallible, they would always succeed. All policies have trade-offs.
I didn’t mention “right … sound points” or their representation.
Actually it’s my b as i confused another posters point up the chain for yours, sorry
Nonono, you misunderstand the political landscape.
Something having downsides IS NOT the same as the claims being made against things. If you think conservative politicians are arguing in good faith, you simply haven’t been listening.
There really are not sound (conservative) arguments against them.
If you do not agree, you do not know enough. Period.
If you do not agree, you do not know enough. Period.
Lol. Your arrogance is astounding.
Your pride in ignorance is pathetic. Perfect example of why public education is critically important to fund, and to fund properly.
Conservstives cling on to old, stupid ideas that are in the process of being proven wrong. Again and again and again and again.
But you go ahead and defend that hill that brought us golden gems of wisdom like “Trickle Down Economics”, private, for-profit prisons, and a lack of regulation so companies can dump what ever they want in to rivers and the ocean…
You occasionally run into some disagreeable but unobjectionable “traditional” conservative opinions, usually around economics and the governments role in it, but trump shit isn’t that. We can be friends if you think a market solution is viable or better than an entitlement program. We can’t be friends if you think a significant portion of your fellow citizens are vermin or that we should just let terrible problems continue or get worse.
The window has just shifted so far that literal objective depictions of reality are described as “left”.
However Lots of places love to call those pointing out flaws in democratic policies trump supporters unfortunately
A few exist, they’re just defederated from most instances. Its Freedom of Association at work, the only acceptable form of censorship.
The Fediverse’s demographic is digitally conscious lefties and moderates that desire transparency, accountability, and greater user control.
Exploding Heads is the only Nazi instance I’m aware of, are there others?
Exploding Heads is the only one Im aware. But I am certain there are others; just need to dig for them.
I’ve been accused of being a Trump supporter multiple times because of comments on Gaza… as I read top comment of a dumbass calling people who denounce Harris as confirmed Trump supporters…
Anyways it’s the same in practically any niche technology, you just tend to see more leftists because they happen to be the ones creating and using said technology.
There’s still a large portion of Republicans who use cable/satellite TV, but don’t have internet besides their cellphone plan. They’d only come if lemmy became a popular de facto social platform like Facebook.
as I read top comment of a dumbass calling people who denounce Harris as confirmed Trump supporters…
i really hate this, same thing also happened to me in my country. i’m hating on the “B” candidate and people would assume i’m “A” supporter. i don’t believe any politician at all.
Lemmy is full of communists/socialists - this is an opposite side of political spectrum
Lemmy is full of communists/socialists
Socialist here! Lemmy is much more welcoming than Reddit.
Why join Lemmy.world as a Socialist? There’s a lot less Socialist content to interact with that way
Well I didn’t join Lemmy just to do Socialist stuff. I just happen to be a socialist, and I joined Lemmy. What instance to you recommend?
The 3 biggest Socialist-friendly instances are Lemmy.ml (FOSS and Privacy focused but maintained by Communists), and the 2 dedicated Communist instances, Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net.
If you want to see as much content as possible, liberal or otherwise, Lemmy.ml will let you see it. Lemmy.ml doesn’t block Hexbear or Lemmygrad, so you can interact with those communities while retaining access to Lemmy.ca and Lemmy.world.
If you are a dedicated Marxist-Leninist, Lemmygrad takes itself “seriously,” though it’s the smallest of the 3.
If you’re generally a Socialist, Hexbear is a Left-Unity instance made up of Communists and Anarchists, is by far the most active leftist instance, and also the most self-sustainable thanks to its large and active userbase. Plus, it’s less serious.
TL;DR based on what you’ve said, either Lemmy.ml or Hexbear.net, the former if you want to retain access to Lemmy.ca and Lemmy.world while gaining access to Hexbear and Lemmygrad, the latter if you want a much more active community than Lemmy.ml federated with most instances, with the exclusion of Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ca
Thank you! This is great information!
Is it? I’ve only seen a lot of centrist/centre-right Democrats and people who align with them.
Well you’re on .world which is more like that. And also .world defederated some quite large leftist instances
Which ones?
Lemmy.world is defederated from the 2 most active Communist instances, so you don’t see them.
Lemmy.world only seems to want those types of users
They absolutely exist. But in general, I think most people here are informed and choose a wide variety of information to consume. That is exactly the opposite of most Trump supporters.
They generally get defederated from the major instances.
The ones I know are full of racist memes and incel comments, so…
if only we could defederate them from the USA.
They tried that once themselves, and would go back to their old ways if they could.
Lemmy in general is developed and maintained by Communists, for starters. FOSS in general, especially FOSS social media, is a Leftist answer to already existing Capitalist Social Media.
There are right-wing instances like Exploding Heads, which is a Nazi instance, but they are defederated from every major instance.
FOSS in general … and FOSS social media … is a leftist answer to capitalist social media …
This is how you can tell me you’re a troll and know nothing of the history of personal computing.
[Tried to approximate the quote, couldn’t copy and paste on mobile]
Edit: not sure if you were sarcastic or not, based on other comments. Either my instance or my mobile browser makes it hard to see everything in a coherent way.
I have seen the one or the other, but they were immediately down voted into oblivion.
sad to be trump supporter here tho lol
Its sad to be a trump supporter everywhere.
They’re cowards?
Most likely your instance is defederated from all the nazi-adjacent instances 🤷
Yeah. It’s the advantage but also disadvantage of the Fediverse. If you’re on the wrong instance you won’t even notice that certain ideologies are right out blocked by the instance owner. This can go into all political directions. You wouldn’t even notice this happening unless you do research on which instances are blocked by yours.
That’s the thing. On one hand I like not being bombarded by the shit opinions but on the other I like being informed at what the talking points are (to a degree) because I find that keeps me sharp against the opposition. When I read or hear about conservative viewpoints, I only think about how obtuse the logic is so it’s not something I worry at all about affecting my mindspace so this might not be a solution to everyone.
I’m still torn on the topic since it’s nice to not give a platform to obviously shit ideals since that’s how the misinformation spreads but I still wonder if there’s an even better protocol out there we haven’t been able to even comprehend yet.
Personally I’m cool with that. I don’t think daily exposure to actual fascists is good for one’s head. And I wouldn’t mind .ml getting the axe too (though I’m not gonna be the one pestering my instance admin about that) because Tankies are equally as draining.
I point your attention wolfballs.
I may not agree with most of the perspective, but the author’s opposition to censorship is admirable.
Yeah free speech isn’t always free, but I’d rather the freedom to read things I disagree with. Others may disagree though.
We don’t take kindly to folks who don’t take kindly 'round here.
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They don’t want any outside voices in their echo chamber
Yeah conservatives even more militant about excluding people lol
Ban hammer used way more often on alt right communities. fucking snow flakes haha
“Without echo chambers, the weak trump supporter gets bullied and humiliated, leaving defeated and confused back to his herd. Nature is beautiful. “
David Attenborough, maybe
Haha are you implying that Lemmy isn’t an echo chamber?
It definitely definitely is.
But it’s not a Trump echo chamber, hence their absence.
It’s insane. I left reddit because I thought it was an over-moderated echo chamber with too much corporate influence. Lemmy is somehow an even worse echo chamber and it didn’t need corporate influence to see it happen.
Picking Lemmy over Reddit is a political choice, hence Lemmy having far more Communists.
Closer to reality than you think. He did a parody narration of “the MAGAs”.