No, they can make money without stealing. They just choose to steal and lie about it either way. It’s the worst kind of justification.
The investors are predominantly made up of the Rationalist Society. It doesn’t matter whether or not AI “makes money”. It matters that the development is steered as quickly as possible towards an end product of producing as much propaganda as possible.
The bottom line barely even matters in the bigger picture. If you’re paying someone to make propaganda, and the best way to do that is to steal from the masses, then they’ll do it regardless of whether or not the business model is “profitable” or not.
The lines drawn for AI are drawn by people who want to use it for misinformation and control. The justifications make it seem like the lines were drawn around a monetary system. No, that’s wrong.
Who cares about profitability when people are paying you under the table to run a mass crime ring.
Copying information is not stealing.
Depends on the context. Are you copying someone else’s identity in order to make a passable clone? Are you trying to sell that clone?
A duplication of someone’s voice, commercialized by an unauthorized source, is definitely a form of stealing.
Copying information illegally, such as private information held on a private device, is overwhelmingly illegal.
In general, copying information is only as legal as the purpose behind it.
Sounds like they need better bootstraps.
Or at least a business model.
What crimes can I get away with using the same idea?
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Aww poor shit company and their poor money problems.
Honestly this meme is way understating the sinisterness
- Election interference for money machine
- Whole internet is ads company
- Dopamine addiction for all children
- Superpowers for law enforcement
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they’ve played us for absolute fools
“WE’RE NOT A VIABLE BUSINESS! BWAH!”
Oh. Oh no. Such a shame.
oh good. then fuck off. who knew copyright law would eventually be the good guy in a story.
You know that old adage, “You either die the villain or live long enough to become the hero.”
;)
that does not sound right, but I don’t know enough to argue about it.
I said it intentionally backwards. If I 'm now missing a joke in your comment I apologize. :)
Good artists copy, great artists steal. If I think even Steve Jobs mentioned having in mind their visit in Xerox Parc research lab
Wait, steal = taking away from the original owner
Meaning, good artist copy, while great artist display anticompetitive behavior?
Ah, steal in the sense of copy and then stealing the market away?
Oh yeah, Picasso. The great artist who was an abusive guy who beat her mistress to paint her crying (The Weeping Woman / Dora Maar).
I only want to know how did you bump on this off topic
Beyond the legal aspect, AI training on artists’ works poses an ethical problem. And when it comes to ethics, I think we can avoid quoting Picasso,
It’s widely quoted quote even by Steve Jobs. You’re reacting like: famous austrian painter liked animals and forbid animal cruelty. So it means like you’re like him
Fuck OpenAI. I hope they fail.
slaps roof of coffin
So what would it take to get you in one of these?
In every other circumstance I can think of, “I can’t make money doing a thing unless I break the law” means don’t do that thing.
Why should AI get special treatment?
Well in almost every other circumstance, you’re forgetting Uber and Airbnb.
AirBNB is currently failing. Uber likely will when people catch on to “dynamic pricing”
Now about that fake money for criminals - it was quite useful for me when I needed to send money to my sister, with me being in Russia and her being outside, and it was year 2022. Also with the way ruble sank after the war, buying BTC hours after seeing news of it starting was probably a bargain. Would be twice as expensive the next day.
I haven’t used Uber (Yandex Taxi) and Airbnb (asocial type and have responsibilities), and I agree about the plagiarism machine.
So you didn’t do the crime, but your home country did, and you could use crypto to make life easier despite the repercussions. I’d say it’s not a bad fit.
Nah. Arbitrary shit that doesn’t hurt those who did the crime, but does hurt me, is not repercussions. Neither is it a crime to find tools to solve such problems.
Sorry to break it to you, but bypassing sections is a crime. You just proved his point. Sanctions are supposed to make life difficult for the people in sanctioned countries so that those people maybe start doing something to the person causing the problems.
It may be useful, but it was designed to facilitate criminal payments.
Sanctions are supposed to make life difficult for the people in sanctioned countries so that those people maybe start doing something to the person causing the problems.
Nah. They are supposed to reduce connectivity for everyone except the right people with connections, who deal in shit big enough, like oil, gas etc, but not us serfs and not businessmen who don’t respect their government officials enough to bribe them. This worked especially well in the Iron Curtain times, and it seems there are people nostalgic of that now.
First, spitting into my soup for something other people did is not going to make me more pissed at them (suppose I already was), it’s going to make me more pissed at those spitting into my soup.
Second, knowing that Israel isn’t sanctioned, Turkey isn’t sanctioned, Azerbaijan isn’t sanctioned, but Russia is, not being better, makes it extremely hard to believe that those sanctions are meant to solve problems. Even if I didn’t know how they work.
Third, a country can’t make something a crime outside their jurisdiction.
Ah yes, the original unviable silicon valley businesses! I love how they used their VC money to undercut and kill small businesses all over the world.
Because they already raised hundreds of millions from investors
The more the original work is transformed, the more likely it is to be considered fair use rather than infringement.
Because black numbers going up make shareholders happy
This headline sounded familiar. The article’s from 8 months ago, folks.
Now now, I am sure what he meant was they can’t make enough profit to bring billions for its shareholders
