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Amazing. there will be one car manufacturer with this garbage and the rest of them won’t be allowed to use this parented technology
If it gets used at all, that would be the best case scenario.
And it might even go down like things have with GM and their blocking Android Auto and Carplay (affecting their bottom line). And it might even affect enough that they’d stop.
But that’d be the beat case scenario (still feasible, even in hypercapitalismworld. But unlikely)
No, they’ll just license it to all the other car makers.
Wait is there a way to invent awful things and then patent troll so that nobody can actually bring them to market?
I like how you think
Note to self, no Fords…
Well, if you buy a used one, they first started putting the cellular modems in in 2017, and all models by 2020. You can check which models here
Every week I find a new reason to be glad for my 2016 Escape.
I hope they’re just patenting this to prevent other manufacturers from doing it.
I went into my truck and disconnected the LTE antenna now it can’t phone home for all the tracking
The worst* make of cars is now hoping to fuck over their consumers even more.
* can’t change the fucking battery unless you take half the fucking engine area apart.
Really? My battery is under my spare in the trunk.
My lithium batteries on the other hand I think you have to remove the back seats to access, but I honestly hope I can afford to trade it in before I need it.
I mean, you low key proving OPs point. That is a pain in the ass to get to. For basically, forever it’s been under the hood in the front, and the easiest thing to get to.
A pain in the ass was Chrysler’s brilliant idea to put the battery in the wheel well. You have to take the tire off, remove the fender liner then pray the hold down bolts don’t break (they will) then deal with trying to get the cables off with hardly any room.
Wow. Brilliant minds from Stellantis hard at work
I wasn’t trying to disprove the point, I was just curious what ford vehicles the battery is up front and impossible to remove.
And honestly, for how often a battery needs to be removed, under the spare tire in the back is not bad at all, and there are still jump points under the hood and easily accessible. Clearly labeled too.
Yeah, but on a car with electric locks, and an electric lift gate which I’m assuming yours has (could be mechanical, but most cars these days are crossovers, so I’m assuming that’s what you have) a dead battery means you can’t open the trunk latch. It’s absolutely a stupid place to put it. You either have to jump it to open the hatch, or go over the back seats while taking out the floor panels to get to it. My own car, the battery is under the hood, but there’s 2 plastic pieces that need to come off via push clips, and if you’re stranded and don’t have something to push in the clips and pull them out, you’re going to have to rip the piece off to get to the battery and break the clips or the plastic piece. It’s fairly simple, but that plastic serves almost no purpose.
My car was too cheap to have an electric liftgate, though I don’t know if I can open it with a dead battery - never tried, and never had a battery so dead it needed replacing that urgently. Very possible it doesn’t open with a dead battery though, at least if the vehicle is locked when the battery dies.
Probably talking about an Escape. Half the battery is under the wiper cowl, but it’s still not bad to change if you know what you’re doing.
It is a 2014 Ford Escape. But this is not the only experience of this sort that I’ve had with Ford.
An old escape maybe? Mine is a '21 and definitely not like that.
For those who don’t understand Ford’s strategy here: Ford has tons of goofy patents like this, and they’re just waiting for someone else to do this so they can get royalties.
They’re patent trolling bad ideas…
That’s a lot more clever than actually building this grotesque idea.
Maybe so at this point in history. Don’t be surprised when Ford implements it or something similar at a later date. Ads are in most everything now and they have already sold your data to insurance companies.
“it’s just in the corner, when you drive near one of our Partner companies”
“it’s just a square on the main menu”
“it’s just a brief full-screen suggestion”
“it’s just whispering sweet nothings at a forced-volume into your Harman Kardon premium audio system (we have always done this for plebs who opted for our standard audio system)”
“it just adds an additional waypoint to your route, like our new Signature Partner, Dunkin’ Doughnuts. Get a free small coffee when you spend $15 and say the keywords ‘ADS4LIFE’ into the drive-thru robot”
“it’s only taking control and driving you in comfort to your nearest Ford dealership to trade-in your vehicle at 100,000 miles”
“it’s only siphoning your blood plasma to keep the FordOS AI financially afloat”
“it’s only recording your banking details at the ATM and charging you a
monthlyweekly fee to support and assist you with our cutting-edge technology”“GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY NOW OR WE ARE DRIVING YOU OFF THE GRAND CANYON”
“GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY NOW OR WE ARE DRIVING YOU OFF THE GRAND CANYON"
Can I just skip straight to this part?
Getting patents for hyper-annoying things, taking shit for possibility thinking about employing the tactic in the future, keeping other manufacturers from being able to without paying for it…
Are… are they the heros we need?
Thanks for calling attention to this. Oftentimes when a patent is applied for there is no intent to implement it. This is actually a clever way to get ahead of the direction of the market and license to other manufacturers.
Having said that, it’s still Ford, and once it’s generally accepted for this type of ad to be displayed they’ll jump on it real quick.
This is a patent troll, stiffling innovation gaming the patent system for something [we hope] they never intend to produce. Even if it’s a horrible idea we want stifled, that’s still a patent troll
once it’s generally accepted for this type of ad to be displayed they’ll jump on it real quick.
That’s inevitable, but in this scenario they own the patent.
The all new Downy fabreeze! Bam! 💥💥💥💥💥🤣.
Bleeding to death while Listening to a fabreeze commercial.
“I’ll be right with you, grampsi, just wanna hear this laundry jingle one last time!”
Hello 911, what seems to be the problem?..1 of 3"like a good neighbor State farm is there!" 2 of 3 “like a good neighbor State farm is there!” 3 of 3 “every day, kids from Africa like Mary here go without food or water so they can’t feed their dog any, would you please donate $5 to Save their dogs foundation? Every dollar that comes in brings good nutritional meals for the dogs like Chicken, beef, etc, food that they would never otherwise be able to get due to their owners poverty level. So c’mon and donate, you will get this shiny 'I saved a dog’s 🖊️ pen!.. ma’am, yeah, I was just in an accident! Can you please send an ambulance, my leg is broken and I’m bleeding fas… So cmon and get your pen now! Give us a call at 1800 ‘I want to save a dog!’… Okay the ambulance is on its way, could you please tell us the intersection?, Madison and…oh I didn’t quite catch that…1 of 7 " have you or a loved one been invited to a gay gangbang lately and developed enlarged anus? Well the law offices of Lark and Co can help you get what you deserve!”…madis…2 of 7…" Squirt! The fresh market!"
Big ass roof screen that goes "psst! Hey! Look! New coke is here!"😄
Be me
Driving 2026 Ford shitbox down 99
Traffic is slowing up ahead
Suddenly the windshield becomes a full-screen ad for Nord VPN
Cant_see_shit.jpg
Crash into semi
Just before I black out from the pain, hear from behind me “This traffic accident brought to you by Nord VPN.”
Don’t worry they will have an ad free subscription service where for an extra $100 a month you won’t be shown any ads.
Just take the 1 door free option.
So phones are illegal but not this? What in the actual fuck is going on right now. We are being forced so many damn ads it’s nearly impossible to get away from them. Now I need to worry about someone trying to hit skip instead of focusing on driving. As a motorcyclist I’m now even more terrified. Half the drivers now already don’t look up from their phones…
It looks like you’re about to die in a horrible 40-car collision! Don’t fret, though! Mutual Assurance can protect your family for just pennies a day! You’ll really regret not signing up for this policy!
We regret to inform you that your claim has been denied as your policy does not cover accidents due to distracted driving. Please refer to the attached dash cam footage showing claimant watching a Mutual Assurance ad while the vehicle was in motion. Have a nice day and thank you for choosing Mutual Assurance!
Ah i see, time for ford to go down in the history books.
Not like that will happen, but i truly think they deserve that as a result for even considering this.
I’m already sick of the amount of ads that find a way into my private living space, but i’ve managed to negate 90% of them.
“We need to make money” yeah sure, but not at the cost of me. If you want to make money off of me i need you to sell me stuff i get to keep and are actually worth the cost.
I work too much and make too little to allow them to invade my private space.
Time for a law to be passed that kills off this bad idea permanently.
The main cause of fatal accidents is driver distraction. Anything that adds to it is moving in the wrong direction.
They should also ban the use of tablet computers in place of proper displays and controls in vehicles.
That’s not enough. Amazon tablets started with ads only on Lock Screen and startup. Those are also not ok
Time for a law to be passed that kills off this bad idea permanently.
With governments (of all alignments) in the pockets of, or otherwise under the influence of, the very large corporations whose advertising would stand to benefit from this, I have only the following to say: Good luck with that.
Those Chinese EV imports from BYD are looking better and better.
We had that. It was called radio. And then Satellite radio. If we could not continue this that would be awesome. Buy an EV they said. No thanks. No new cars of any kind for me.
This sort of crap has fuck all to do with EVs. Why do so many people seem to think that EVs are being enshittified any more than cars with combustion engines?
Ford has an abundance of EV’s and has been making EV’s for a couple of decades now. Automakers track all types of information about drivers, and it’s exhausting and all the new EV’s have all kinds of new tech specifically to track drivers just like ICE vehicles. The push for EV’s is pretty strong right now, and that’s the point of my comment. There’s a lot of media telling people that if they’re gonna buy a new car it should be an EV. Teslas are apparently being towed so that law enforcement can use the sensors and cameras to collect information and evidence of crimes. Then this news hits, coupled with an article a couple of weeks ago about how they’ve also patented a way for cop cars to more accurately determine who’s speeding and this whole present is a dystopian nightmare.
You may only want to think about the good that EV’s do, but not all of us are so blindly optimistic. EV’s are one place where Automakers in particular are making new strives to add more tech to vehicles. Yes in a lot of cases more so than ICE vehicles.
Somehow you took “no new cars for me” to mean just EV’s and that makes me question some things about you.
Ah yeah I did misread you. My apologies.
Though I don’t quite agree that EVs are getting more tech than ICE counterpaets. Remember BMW’s scandal around subscription heated seats? That definitely was not an EV-specific or EV-biased thing. That’s only one example, of course.
Another is Toyota locking remote start behind a subscription - when the remote start was entirely over local radio signals between the car and the keyfob. Definitely not an EV issue.
Or, multiple automakers being caught spying on drivers and selling the data. Much broader than EVs.
On another note, EVs are better for noise, pollution, and climate but they still emit brake dust and tire particles, and they weigh more so they cause a bit more wear and tear on roads. More transit and less cars is vitally necessary, and that includes EVs, so I hope I’m not an EV zealot - just been driving the things for eight years and weirded out by bad info about them
Tesla’s had the EV market majority for awhile now. They’re the poster child of more tech in cars, especially when all the other EV’s on the market are following suit to try to play catch-up. Although I agree with you that paywall of car tech that we have had for decades absolutely is not an EV thing, more sensors and cameras specifically is. The other stuff is just terrible marketing firms trying to force subscription services into things that didn’t ever have them before.
Tesla in particular has spearheaded this movement with the self driving car angle and it’s been Ford trying to catch up ever since. All kinds of correlatations between the Ford Mach E and the Tesla models to start with, and that stuff has absolutely followed in the electric Escapes and F105 lightnings. The larger screens, the 360 cameras, the mountains of sensors and LIDAR, Ford’s Blue Cruise nonsense.
Ford wasn’t putting random 15" screens in the dash of their cars before Tesla did it and I’d hazard that most other car companies weren’t either. It’s gotten to the point where it seems like the whole EV industry is trying to imitate Tesla and as far as Ford is concerned I can’t say I’m surprised that they came up with the ads nonsense specifically because that’s par for the course for a company that’s been plagued by the most recalls of any automaker 3 years running or more.
If I’m honest it’s gotten to the point where I’ll pay to fix my decade and a half or more old ice vehicle before I’ll buy any EV. Mini’s got problems with their batteries now, from what my brother tells me a lot of EV’s go through tires and brakes at an accelerated rate and at his dealer it costs something like $500-700 per axle for brake pads and machined rotors. This is on top of the number of electric vehicles being marketed today that have significabt problems that require whole modules or internal battery components to be replaced which is great under warranty but isn’t likely to lead to these vehicles lasting 50-70 years.
I hear about this stuff all the time from the people who fix these cars and a lot of what I hear just makes me not want anything to do with any cars. Unfortunately I don’t have another reliable mode of transportation that I can afford and will allow me to have free time so there’s that.
