I considered leaving Twitter as soon as Elon Musk acquired it in 2022, just not wanting to be part of a community that could be bought, least of all by a man like him – the obnoxious “long hours at a high intensity” bullying of his staff began immediately. But I’ve had some of the most interesting conversations of my life on there, both randomly, ambling about, and solicited, for stories: “Anyone got catastrophically lonely during Covid?”; “Anyone hooked up with their secondary school boy/girlfriend?” We used to call it the place where you told the truth to strangers (Facebook was where you lied to your friends), and that wide-openness was reciprocal and gorgeous.

“Twitter has broken the mould,” Mulhall says. “It’s ostensibly a mainstream platform which now has bespoke moderation policies. Elon Musk is himself inculcated with radical right politics. So it’s behaving much more like a bespoke platform, created by the far right. This marks it out significantly from any other platform. And it’s extremely toxic, an order of magnitude worse, not least because, while it still has terms of service, they’re not necessarily implementing them.”

Global civil society, though, finds it incredibly difficult to reject the free speech argument out of hand, because the alternative is so dark: that a number of billionaires – not just Musk but also Thiel with Rumble, Parler’s original backer, Rebekah Mercer (daughter of Robert Mercer, funder of Breitbart), and, indirectly, billionaire sovereign actors such as Putin – are successfully changing society, destroying the trust we have in each other and in institutions. It’s much more comfortable to think they’re doing that by accident, because they just love “free speech”, than that they’re doing that on purpose. “Part of understanding the neo-reactionary and ‘dark enlightenment’ movements, is that these individuals don’t have any interest in the continuation of the status quo,”

  • @[email protected]
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    Well I mean everybody abandoned ship when musky took over, and then as he was shooting holes in the bottom of the boat, even more people left. Then he started giving priority access to the top deck for anyone who would pay for the privilege. Now the boat is half filled with water and still flooding. Honestly I’m a surprised that the boiler hasn’t exploded by now, what with how much of the engineering staff he fired. I think the only people keeping that thing running are the ones who literally just can’t escape.

  • @[email protected]
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    Twitter was a cess pit before Musk took over. It had gone the way of most centralised networks. People won’t leave or they get cut off and lose their followers. Networks know this, and stop caring. Twitter still exists because selfish people won’t leave. Never join any centralised network. You are helping it go bad. Musk did a good thing in chasing millions off of Twitter. Some stay on there and grizzle about the mess, they themselves, made, and blame it all on Musk.

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    710 months ago

    Should I really give up my empty metric of 70K followers and move my communication and journalistic research to another echo chamber and advertising platform run by another billionaire?

    It really is a tough one.

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      hmmm I wonder if that is considered in the thousands of words of this article…

      It got more unpleasant after the blue-tick fiasco: identity verification became something you could buy, which destroyed the trust quotient. So I joined the rival platform Mastodon, but fast realised that I would never get 70,000 followers on there like I had on Twitter. It wasn’t that I wanted the attention per se, just that my gang wasn’t varied or noisy enough. There’s something eerie and a bit depressing about a social media feed that doesn’t refresh often enough, like walking into a shopping mall where half the shops have closed down and the rest are all selling the same thing.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          The purpose of twitter like platforms is to have people to listen to and people to listen to you, so yes vastly lower user counts is a drawback.

      • TimeSquirrel
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        There’s something eerie and a bit depressing about a social media feed that doesn’t refresh often enough

        Society’s modern artificially induced ADHD on display here. Anybody remember when websites were all static and didn’t dynamically change at all?

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          CGI was a pretty early invention, so you would have had to be on the Web very early indeed to remember when it was entirely static. Main difference between the server-side era and now was that the usual way for pages to show changes back then was to autotrigger the browser’s reload mechanism after a fixed time.

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            you would have had to be on the Web very early indeed to remember when it was entirely static

            Correct. My first web browser was Mosaic. I was using it on my Dad’s PC in 1994 at 12 years old.

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        It’s the chicken and egg problem. People don’t move to Mastodon because there are less users and there are less users because people don’t move.

        However if someone consumes less social media because there are “less people making noise”, I consider that a good thing.

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      510 months ago

      If you had bothered to read the article, you would know this isn’t actually the gotcha you think it is.

      • @[email protected]
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        I did read the article. It’s a bunch of whinging and rationalization as she furiously tries to paper over the real reason she refuses to quit Twitter — her precious 70k followers. That’s all that matters to these journalists.

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      “Journalists” still love Twitter because they don’t need to do any real investigative work anymore, they just report on “he said, she said” idiocy. Instant drama and source of clicks.

      So much of news these days seem to be “someone said something (on Twitter)”.

      Gossip generation…

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    I won’t even click on links to Twitter anymore. I had an account in the beginning but even back then the signal to noise ratio was stupid low. Now It’s all bots and nazis.

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    And is it ethical to keep using it?

    No. And I’ll go further: if you still use it, at the very least you’re an entitled arsehole ranking their own dopamine over the well-being of everyone else. And you deserve to be treated as such.

    But I’ve had some of the most interesting conversations of my life on there, both randomly, ambling about, and solicited, for stories:

    They’re weighting the emotional investment in the platform, caused by their earlier interactions, with it, as if it mattered when deciding future usage. It does not; that’s a fallacy = stupid shit called “sunken cost”.

    fast realised that I would never get 70,000 followers on there like I had on Twitter. It wasn’t that I wanted the attention per se, just that my gang wasn’t varied or noisy enough

    Refer to what I said about the title.

    Stopped reading here. This article is a waste of my time.

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    Who cares about ethics in social media? The question is, if you want to become a hateful hyperbole.

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    Even if it wasn’t full of hatred, it’s still a pretty big waste of time, even before the Muskrat was in charge.

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      Meh it had some used back then. I used it to keep track of local news and police. Things would often show up hours before other sources. Local schools pushed closing and such, making it more convenient.

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    Twitter got bought literally less than 2 years ago, we all fucking witnessed it.
    Who is this article for? 1 year olds?

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    Musk and no, anyone still using it is fine with its issues

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    Should I not go to the Nazi Fair even though the food is really good and the vendors are all nice people?

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah, except the food sucks and it’s full of Nazis…

      The article says they don’t want to leave because of their high follower counts…

      But most of them are bots, inactive, or Nazis following so they can troll comments easier.

      They care about an empty number and won’t do the slightest work to improve an alternative.

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    it’s always been full of hatred; it just had a trust and safety team that attempted to do something about it before elon.

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    210 months ago

    Did Musk take a thing we all loved and smash it? Pretty much.

    Haha! I love seeing left wingers pretend that X didn’t have these problems before Elon Musk took over lol

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      It just wasn’t a problem to them and it was a problem for people they didn’t like (whom they call Nazis, various “-ists” and so on if they dare think differently from them). Now it’s flipped and it’s a problem for them but not the people they don’t like. Every platform needs some form of moderation, but that moderation can run the risk of being too harsh on certain groups depending on the opinions of the moderators. Dorsey himself admitted this was happening at Twitter (being too harsh on legitimate conservative views (not just real Nazis) because the mods didn’t like them) to Congress before it was sold, and he did little to nothing about it. Now the moderation seems to be at the whims of however Elon is feeling on any given day, and due to his own stances, liberals are now getting the brunt of it. It really would be nice to just have somewhere where only the very extremes of left and right, and any actual illegal content, would be moderated out and the mods could keep to that no matter what “side” they or ownership is on. But I know that’s just a pipe dream.