• @Globulart@lemmy.world
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    Most people aren’t doing terribly here really. It’s not ideal but it’s not horrific, until you get to the light blue/turquoise SUV 3 or 4 cars down. That fucker has clearly mounted the kerb and without the car there this picture looks pretty normal.

    Also I don’t think these pictures are of the same line of cars, should be able to see the roof box on both pictures but you can’t.

      • @Globulart@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Yeah. Not ideal but not horrific, until that turquoise SUV which blocks a full paving slab more than the others.

    • Tippon
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      62 years ago

      Aren’t doing terribly? Every one of them is overhanging the pavement.

      • @Globulart@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Yeah not ideal as I said, the picture just looks a lot worse because of one douchbag who has fully mounted the kerb. Most people here have parked badly, one person has parked awfully. Without the one person this picture looks very different.

  • @hark@lemmy.world
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    162 years ago

    Lots of people are bad at parking. It can be a little difficult to judge distance so people go until they bump something. I think having cameras around the vehicle would help, if people use them, that is.

    • Flying Squid
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      Last time I used my backup camera, I misjudged the distance and hit someone’s car. Never again.

      • @theragu40@lemmy.world
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        52 years ago

        Cameras should be used in conjunction with your mirrors, not exclusively. It makes more sense to me to learn to use safety features rather than ignore them.

      • @jayandp@sh.itjust.works
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        32 years ago

        Newer backup cameras have lines to warn you of the distance, but you still have to be careful just like with mirrors.

        • @tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk
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          12 years ago

          And beepers, and distance measurements, and a thing that lights up and says ‘STOP’.

          Well, few have all 3 but in general you’ll get 1 or 2.

          It’s a lot easier to park than it was 10 years ago, but you wouldn’t know it seeing pictures like this .

  • Soullioness
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    232 years ago

    As a wheelchair user I absolutely hate when people do this! I ended up forced to go around the back of the car which is way less safe.

    • @Skymt@feddit.nu
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      52 years ago

      Yeah I’m fairly sure parking like this would earn you tickets where I live…

  • @NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    I hate this weird behavior, just as much as when I crossing at a intersection and all the cars have their tires right up on the white line. FYI you should see the white line at an intersection on your dash when looking through the windshield.

  • Spliffman1
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    52 years ago

    Maybe if there was a wall there instead of a sidewalk they would all just crash into the wall 😂

    • @SweetSitty@lemmy.world
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      42 years ago

      That’s why some parking lots put a cement curb a few feet away from the sidewalk, where the tires should stop.

  • Destide
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    22 years ago

    Wheel chair with ground up spark plugs on the tyres

  • @moistclump@lemmy.world
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    252 years ago

    Anyone else questioning whether there are the same location? Might be, and I know people park like that, it’s just… weird angle and easy to throw together as rage bait.

  • @sunbytes@lemmy.world
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    102 years ago

    Solution: cover your hands with jelly and make a big scene of climbing over the cars to use the sidewalk, leaving jelly handprints everywhere.

    If confronted about the jelly prints, just say you were eating a really big donut.

  • @ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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    1302 years ago

    Really they should just have some concrete parking blocks in that lot. Not sure if I can really blame the drivers here… it’s just a bad setup.

      • Zorque
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        512 years ago

        The design failure is only failing to anticipate that people are going to be assholes. The two are not mutually exclusive.

        • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          22 years ago

          No one is “being an asshole” they are just trying to “park all the way in”. A block is specifically there to communicate AND enforce that

          • Zloubida
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            52 years ago

            To try to park all the way in is an asshole move.

            • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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              A normally zoned, and properly provisioned parking spot has a stop, and would never be designed where cars would block pedestrian access.

              It is normal to pull in and expect a stop point.

              Depending on size or design of car you may be accustomed to not hitting the stop block (low car, small car, etc), but you would, as the driver, assume you are not inappropriately “too in” if you HAVEN’T touched the (in this case inexistent) stop block.

              All of these drivers subconsciously believe they are comfortably in the spot, without sticking out front or back. Because of this none of them have any suspicion they need to look to double check.

              One of the core principles of car and pedestrian cohabitation is to use barriers and information to keep cars and pedestrians separated, without relying on the “common sense” of the driver.

              Drivers do not have “common sense” of a heavy machine, and must be separated from impinging on pedestrians.

              • @TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee
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                62 years ago

                I think this stop is something very American. In Europe it’s very rare to see a stop for the cars. You just learn to drive correctly. American drivers are just worse at driving than European ones, because your streets and parking spaces and literally anything else car related is just huge. And same with parking spaces. You are used to having a stop, so you only learn how to park correctly if there is a stop.

                • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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                  32 years ago

                  There are some parkings with stop blocks in Europe, but they’re more of an exception rather than a norm. What I think is a better solution, is to have a wider sidewalk with some trees, shrubs, lamp posts, etc. right next to the curb, that act as a natural limit for how far people will park their car.

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                  Much as the dutch have mastered the design of new roads to separate them from pedestrian and cycling paths, stop blocks are simply a good feature.

                  Many buildings in Europe aren’t even handicapped accessible (such as old buildings, cramped buildings) and that doesn’t mean European disabled folks are “better” wheelchair operators, it just means antiquated spaces aren’t always designed with modern best practices.

                  Stop blocks keep people safe, and ensure access for those like the disabled.

                  It’s not that Europeans are “better drivers” ,(evidence: this picture), it’s that it isn’t a law there, and isn’t part of the design of the spaces these parking spots are in.

              • Zloubida
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                It’s always some other’s fault, isn’t it? No, it’s not. They’re the drivers.

                They drive a heavy machine, like you said, so they should act like it. Be responsible. Always double check. Be respectful and prudent.

                Stop blocks are good things, sure, but their existence is not an excuse to park recklessly.

                • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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                  32 years ago

                  Stop blocks are like stop signs. They’re part of a proper system. They aren’t optional

              • Zloubida
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                52 years ago

                Try to walk on this this kind of sidewalk with a stroller and a walking child and you’ll understand why it is serious. Or try to pass it in a wheelchair.

                • @Oderus@lemmy.world
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                  12 years ago

                  Then complain to the property owner instead of complaining about drivers on the internet. The drivers are doing nothing wrong here.

        • papalonian
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          Does it really make someone an “asshole” for just pulling up until their tire hits something? Feel like this is something 95% of people would do without realizing it until they got out and saw the sidewalk.

          Like do you guys really think these people are intentionally blocking the path or something?

          • Zorque
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            The point is that they don’t care.

            Personally, I try and have a modicum of spatial awareness that allows me to know my surroundings enough that I don’t have to collide with something to know I’ve gone far enough.

          • @Malfeasant@lemm.ee
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            132 years ago

            Does it really make someone an “asshole” for just pulling up until their tire hits something?

            Yes, it absolutely does.

            intentionally

            Doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not, it’s still causing a problem…

        • @dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
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          The design failure is not following parking lot design best practices and installing parking stoppers or bollards on spaces that are directly next a walkway. People are going to pull forward to the only point of reference they have which, because there are no lines or stoppers, is the sidewalk curb.

          The teal car clearly all the way up on the sidewalk is definitely an asshole though.

          • Zorque
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            They have the reference of spatial awareness and not just drive until you bump into something as well. That’s how you end up with fucked up body panels.

          • stebo
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            62 years ago

            so if you park your car you just drive forward until you hit a concrete block or the curb?

        • @Mlemm@lemm.ee
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          52 years ago

          Idk about you, but I don’t instinctively know how much room is left behind my car when I pull into a parking space

          • @Badland9085@lemm.ee
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            That’s why I get out of my car, look if I’m getting in someone’s way, and adjust as needed.

            Takes no more than a minute to be civil and nice to other people, especially to those with special needs.

          • @Jimbo@yiffit.net
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            32 years ago

            I get that basically locked in within a couple weeks of driving the same car. Do you not know approximately how long your car is while in the driver’s seat? Does it not get better over time??

          • Zorque
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            I don’t instinctively know, but I do put the barest amount of thought into it as I know the approximate length of my car and I have the super basic ability of depth perception. So I can do a pretty damn good job of judging just how deep my car is in a space.

            And If I’m off enough that it proves to be a nuisance to those who might use the walking space in front of it? I act like a decent fucking human being and move my car. Cause I’m not a complete narcissistic prick.

    • @hdnsmbt@feddit.de
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      242 years ago

      Shouldn’t the driver be able to know where their car ends without a concrete barrier?

      • @jadegear@lemm.ee
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        102 years ago

        In the front, yes - but knowing how much your rear might be sticking out is another story. That’s tough to judge with rear-view and side-view mirrors only.

        Maybe it’s different elsewhere but at least in the Midwest US we have a range of different length parking spots, from very short to long, so it’s habit to pull as far forward as possible to ensure you aren’t sticking out into the aisle.

        The courteous folks hop back in and reposition if they’re parked funky, but those types can be far and between.

        • Zloubida
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          132 years ago

          Sometimes I’m badly parked, and I understand it only when I leave my car. It’s normal, you’re right.

          But you know what’s not normal? To stay badly parked. It doesn’t cost much time to start the car again to move it backward a little…

        • @hdnsmbt@feddit.de
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          92 years ago

          How do you not hit stuff when reversing? I agree that it’s tough to judge with mirrors only but it’s definitely possible if you’ve been driving for more than two weeks.

          Drivers simply don’t give a shit, everything else is just excuses.

  • Obinice
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    172 years ago

    Idiots that can’t drive properly maybe drive until their wheels touch the kerb? I very rarely see this in the UK, that’s madness.

    Fun fact, when I visited the USA I was very confused by these weird concrete slabs they had in their car parks along each parking space.

    Turns out, enough of their drivers are incompetent enough at driving that they’re put there for them to bump up against as they’re parking, because they aren’t able to figure out how to park properly by themselves xD amazing.

    • @way_of_UwU@programming.dev
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      152 years ago

      Considering that this picture wasn’t taken in the USA, I’d say that’s a success on the Americans’ part to anticipate stupidity.

    • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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      102 years ago

      Cool story. You’ll note that both the plates on the cars and the signage in the image show that this isn’t the US in the picture.

    • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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      22 years ago

      The US doesn’t have compulsory drivers education to obtain a drivers license, so most people have a broad set of bad practices while driving. No one teaches people in the US how to drive safely and with etiquette.

  • @malloc@lemmy.world
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    602 years ago

    This is why parking spaces tend to have those horizontal blocks. It’s to stop dumbass drivers like those depicted in the picture from blocking the sidewalk.

    Unfortunately, with the rise in insecurity compensators (“sports” utility vehicles and light duty trucks). Those measures are quickly defeated.

    I live in the southern states of America and the amount of dOdGe RaM 1500 hD/f150s and “luxury” SUVs just blatantly blocking the sidewalks in urban settings (downtown) is too fucking high. If you are visually impaired expect to run into many of these idiot’s cars/trucks.

    Fuck cars.

      • Spliffman1
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        Yeah I looked at it again and apart from staring at the license plates i don’t see anything that would tell me personally what country it is… I knew it wasn’t my country lol

      • Spliffman1
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        12 years ago

        Hahaha I wouldn’t know, looks like a parking lot anywhere pretty much to me. A parking lot not a roadway and what’s the big deal? I just asked if it was America

      • Spliffman1
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        12 years ago

        You ever been to America? Besides the license plates what looks so un American?

        • @PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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          Most sidewalks in the US are a poured concrete slab, and 99.9% of all parking lots are asphalt (tarmac for the Brits). I wouldn’t even know where to obtain those large concrete paver blocks shown in the photo.

          This would be considered a very fancy parking lot in the US.

          • Spliffman1
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            12 years ago

            Well I live on an island where that wouldn’t be fancy at all, and it looked like USA to me, shoot me for thinking that

      • Spliffman1
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        22 years ago

        Maybe it is, I just wanted to bash USA, now I’m disappointed😂