Mine is on automatic renewal.
To a debit card on an account I closed months ago
Check. Mate.
Fate will take it from here lol
let the ghosts fight it out
ok genuine question from someone who wants to make a website but has no experience in it other than a HTML class and doesn’t want to resort to a cushy GUI based website maker, How do I make a website? I’m not talking about the HTML, I got that part down. I’m talking about how do I actually get a domain and host? I tried doing it and got like a $5 domain, but the host was like $30 for a year which was too much for me and couldn’t figure out how to selfhost with my extremely limited knowledge. Is that just what it costs to have a website or is there an easier way?
Self host isn’t that bad. Say you have a raspberry pi. Install linux on the pi (basically the only thing to do with it), then google how to set up a LAMP server (Linux, Apache, Mysql, Php/python). Once you’ve followed all the steps they list then now you have a web server. To get it out on the internet log into your router and port forward for HTTP and now anyone can see that glorious Apache default web page.
Then for a domain just find the first domain register and buy the domain from them. Once you own a domain point it towards your IP address (just google what is my IP) and you’re set.
Your web page is now on the internet and anyone can type a nice name to get to your page. Anyone can also use any exploits then find so you have to make sure you’re keeping up updating your devices. And every port you forward is an intrusion point into your network should someone want to hack you.
Anyone can also use any exploits then find so you have to make sure you’re keeping up updating your devices. And every port you forward is an intrusion point into your network should someone want to hack you.
This is the part that scares the shit out of me. I bought a domain with the intention of making a little web 1.0 website for fun and to learn, but I have no real idea what I’m doing and the security risk makes it a non-starter :(
If you’re hosting a basic web 1.0 website you’re gonna be pretty safe. Just install Apache and call it a day. As long as there’s no exploits in apache and you only port forward for basic HTTP theres very little to go wrong. Plus realistically, whos gonna want to hack your site?
First off, it’s important to understand Responsive Design
and why you shouldn’t be writing your own css these days as a newbie. Bootstrap is a public css doc with a lot of those problems pre-solved, so you might want to look up some of their tooling.
As far as a website: you’ll need a domain name, you can get some for free, but they usually have short renewals otherwise this is unavoidable.
You can pay for “shared hosting” at any of the major vendors like blue host or GoDaddy and get apache or aspx file hosting for like you said $X0/year.
You can use an s3 static website for ~free. Creating a DNS hosted zone is $.50. but you can create an s3 bucket (think flash drive in the cloud) store a threshold of free documents, and publish them as a website all within the free tier of AWS. This has some technical background and AWS can get expensive of you make mistakes (although this shouldn’t scale much unless you upload a thousands ton of files repeatedly)
Alternatively you can use GitHub pages . Git is a tool used by developers to share and edit code, they let you publish free HTML as well, but requires learning git or figuring out a tool with a UI like source tree. I don’t think you can use custom domains with this though.
Although if you have any interest in tech, you can also create a free nginx docker container through a lot of services like ecs, but you can also self host in a “sandbox”. Docker creates a mini virtual machine with all of the code required to run self contained. Nginx let’s you create HTML docker containers by mounting a directory. ~
docker start nginx /website/directory
And it just runs self contained.You could give a flat file CMS like Grav a shot. It’s basically like a wiki system for running a site. There’s also a slow burn up a hill of complexity where you do LAMP with PHP then you gravitate to things like express.js then Electron and then you roll poorly on your sanity check and end up naked in a bell tower.
Insert that bell curve meme where it’s wordpress on both sides.
For self hosting, pick up docker and understand that then go for portainer - it makes making mistakes in the arena super easy to scrub away. I suggest Synology NAS.
$5 for a domain and $30 for a year of hosting is actually very cheap for a simple starter website.
Yeah I wana know what kind of hosts they found Jesus.
For hosting check out something like github pages. There several other free ones as well, but pages looks like the easiest to set up. If you want something more robust, you could look into Netlify or Vercel, but that’s gonna require a little more know-how.
It depends on how fancy of a website you are trying to make. But check out something like Hugo or Jekyll. I haven’t used Jekyll personally but have used Hugo. There are plenty of templates to get you started depending the type of content you are planning on putting up.
And the best part is you can host the site for free on GitHub or Gitlab, so the domain name is the only cost.
Just buy it for ten years. You’re ultimately saving money and it’ll give you more time to incubate your dream!
Pay $12, can’t let some other jerk have my dream.
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github allows a free website through their domain
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it.
$12? I pay $20 for mine.
$20? I pay $30 for mine.
Wait you guys pay?
You guys have to pay? I get paid to register my domains.
20 domains and counting (just got another one yesterday lmao)
Addict.
lol I’ve been squatting a couple of domains since 2001, my day will come!!!
Easy decision, I pay every time.
Use your domain for your primary email address, have some regrets about it, but never be able to walk away…
Soooo. I’m dumb. I host my overseerr on my domain that just routes to my local IP for my local desktop. How do I get email on this domain without spending dumb money on an email hosting server?
PurelyMail is a great and cheap service. It’s like $10 per year. You just set up some records (MX and TXT) on your domain provider and that’s it.
You could also self-host email, but then you need a server that’s always powered on and it adds much complexity, so I suggest to use a managed service instead.
The good thing about using your own domain is that you’re not tied to any service. You could migrate to any other provider (such as ProtonMail, FastMail, etc.) without ever changing your email address on all services.
It’s like $10 per year.
Okay, but now you’re talking about $22/year and who even has that kind of money?
This is a good idea. I got free domain routing to Gmail through the plagued Google apps system years ago. It’s changed a bunch of times and is now workspaces and requires a monthly fee. I’m grandfathered in through original apps enrollment.
Linux + postfix (SMTP) + dovecot (IMAP and POP3) + SPF + DKIM on the host
Point the MX record for your domain to your IP address
Contact your ISP and ask them to set the PTR record for your IP to your hostname
Mail can be handled by a very low end computer, a raspberry pi can handle email for a small number of users
If you have a specific mail machine you would forward the ports you use to that host on your router.
That’s what I do. Anytime I need to sign up for something with an email I do:
Same. Crazy obvious which companies are getting hacked or selling my info.
I do the same thing, but with gmail tags.
Now if I get a spam email to that address I’ll know exactly what to block.
I am amazed at how often that gets considered an invalid email.
I use wildcards for some stuff, but I mostly just use [email protected] and have my real email for friends and family private. It’s not liked I get emails from friends and family anymore anyway. Everything is iMessage or SMS.
It’s not liked I get emails from friends and family anymore anyway.
I’ll send you an email. $12
bought my domain in July… still havent finished my website…
What’s stopping you from succeeding?
Funny enough I started getting more commission work through Twitter and have been focusing on that recently. The website I’m making was gonna be to serve as an art portfolio and advertise my commission services lmao
Give it a couple years… and then a few more.
Why are you stressing this nice Lemming to fast track their site? It’ll take the standard 30 years. It’s fine.
Wait you guys made websites?
You… you shut up. 🥲
I let one of mine expire a few years ago. Finally decided I wanted to try to register it again, but a squatter is now sitting on it asking for something like
$10k$3.6k.Edit: just double-checked, they lowered the price to only $3595!
And that’s why I’ll never give up my domain. Those vultures will immediately snap it.
I’m definitely getting my blog going regularly again… next year…