Found here: https://twitter.com/CarsRuinedCity/status/1677005785862406144?t=Xolo43mUk4GnegFQE19q3g&s=19
Caption: Photo collage of a beach in Alexandria, Egypt, showing a progression in 3 images:
- Alexandria “Problem” - empty beach + walking street + 6 lane road with medium traffic + dense mid-rise buildings (likely housing)
- Alexandria “Solution” - empty beach (doesn’t seem to matter) + narrower walkway or sidewalk + 10 lane brand new and empty road + tiny sidewalk + the same buildings
- Alexandria “Results” - crowded beach + crowded beach walkway + traffic jam on the 10 lane road
When I went to Egypt they were driving crazy there like bumper cars
I taught someone from Egypt how to drive here in the UK. She would absolutely attest to this 😂 She’d tell me that when she drove in Egypt it was a case of having faith in God getting you to your destination. She also said God must have gotten sick of driving for her so He provided her a good instructor 🥰
Edit: I also just realised where I’m posting! Being an instructor, I guess I’m the devil incarnate in this community 👀
Don’t worry, the title says f* cars, not car instructors ;-)
Looking forward to the Lemmy post in 60 years when this is restored
If we’re lucky, the highway will be underwater by then.
!remindMe 60 years.
Oh wait, no, we don’t that that here, do we.
@[email protected] 50 years
The real problem here is that Egyptian cities are grotesquely overpopulated. Cairo is the poster child for urban hell.
if they’re overpopulated, shouldn’t they focus on higher-capacity transportation options?
They absolutely should, however as with most people in power they use cars and therefore see only the traffic jams. And of course everyone knows the best solution to traffic is just building one more lane.
just one more lane bro that’s going to fix it for good
There’s a few good mini-documentaries on YouTube starting from 1950s America through to now and how the USA is a robust, evidence-rich, long-term case study of why this is bad infrastructure. It’s basically a modern no-brainer now. Thanks to the US we know not to do this. US cities are now slowly trying to undo decades of deep-rooted bad infrastructure choices based around reliance on big road networks.
Surprise, surprise, car manufacturers were a big player in influencing the initial decision 🤣
Having lived in metro areas that have worked on alternative transport solutions, I can tell you it’s sooo much better and easier to live with. And I love cars—own three. But they’re just not the convenient option quite often.
What was the name of the documentary? I’d love to watch it.
Could you please share the link or the name of the documentary?
I would suggest starting with the Strong Towns playlist from Not Just Bikes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa
I’d love for my car to be the inconvenient option but we’re just miles and miles away from that. Sure I could take the metro, it’d cost me more and I’d still need the car to drive to the metro station. Add an hour or so to what any given journey would have taken by car, throw in a handful of sweaty, rude and aggressive co-travelers and you have the answer as to why I drive everywhere.
Yeah, but thats exactly the problem. We know stuff like that is bad, but American cities were built so fundamentally flawed, that we cannot fix the car dependency without completely rebuilding them, which is obviously not an option
Yeah, that’s the poor infrastructure summarised right there. There are minimal alternatives and they’re shit ones. It forces the car to be the only choice, which is fucked if the roads are fucked because there’s no other option to go with.
I don’t understand how the middle and right pictures compare. There are ten total lanes in the middle picture, but only six in the right picture.
The right-side pic only shows one direction. There’s a middle separator and another set of lanes in the other direction (not visible). I think this is the area: https://www.google.com/maps/@31.2207203,29.9301834,3a,75y,224.65h,97.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMJJwta1iFu8TyB9UUb6xVX6fjj30Ph2Z0UGKs!2e10!7i5760!8i2880?entry=ttu feel free to look around, I’m not sure how up to date the photos are.
The whole comparison is stupid without time and date stamps. First looks like it’s an early morning before most people are out and about. Third looks like there’s an event at the beach. Second is strange, maybe the road was just completed or shut down or the cars were edited out.
My neuro cogitators return revulsion at the sight of this. I choose to experience this feeling.
“iMpROvEMenT”
Damn, this is uggly AF…
So… they’re prepping it for their formula one application?
That was exactly my first thought!
Adamsomething has a few videos on this
Also Not Just Bikes
Playing factorio has given me a deeper appreciation of how much adding lanes doesn’t help traffic.
Adding an extra conveyor belt to your factory line won’t help you process materials any faster. You have to add more processing elements, widening the belt lines does absolutely nothing!
Please don’t say the F word around me; I need to sleep tonight :')
Why’s there no one on the beach in the “problem” pic? Kinda seems like one was taken in the slow season and the other was taken in peak rush hour of the busy season.
Completely agree, that’s something I noticed as well. Seems like an apples-to-oranges comparison.
Does it matter? It didn’t solve traffic so adding the lanes did nothing
Yeah, I think it matters. I don’t think inaccurate memes as a form of propaganda are acceptable regardless of whether or not I agree with the original topic. There are plenty of stats, studies, and examples that show the benefits of walkable cities and public transportation. This meme shows a not so busy road and a very busy road with more lanes, the only thing that can be inferred from it is that the pictures were taken on different days, nothing else.
I don’t think it really matters how busy it was before, because the road clearly didn’t solve the problem and now there’s just as much congestion as there could’ve been on a busy day before, but with more pollution.
My point stands, adding lanes did nothing
No it doesn’t lol. You have no idea what adding lanes did or didn’t do, because all this is is a single still image. That’s my point.
Someone on here posted the picture of a toll road which again, functions very differently to a motorway, so the comparison is unfair
City Skylines is where i learned plentiful with so much fun. Soon City Skylines 2 will be released with even more enhancement/ improvements.
Does learning from games like city skylines make you infuriated when you see real life examples of poor layouts and planning?
I cant wait to buy every single feature as an overpriced dlc.
Good God I can’t wait to move to a country that has public transit
Where are you thinking? I visited London recently and while the underground is cool and efficient, it has quite a depressing atmosphere. I’m wondering how it can be done better
I’m actually thinking China. May not be the best country, but it’s easy to get a visa and it’s leagues better than the US.
London is awful. Old trains, super expensive, unreliable service. My subway to the airport was delayed by 25 minutes a month ago with no warning or clear idea when it was going to arrive. Thankfully I had some time before my flight otherwise it would have been a disaster.
Virtually every country does it better other than the US. Paris is amazing. Very cheap, beautifully designed stations, very efficient. Trains are meh but they’re fine.
Japan is a bit weird for having multiple private companies operate subways in the same city, but the reliability and quality is pretty amazing.
Try Berlin. It’s barrier free. All those bloody barriers you gotta stick your ticket through suck and lead to big traffic jams. Everyone basically has to pay for the upkeep of those things too. Seems like it would be expensive and I definitely hate the shuffle you get in when it’s busy.
Berlin also has it’s problems though. Just different ones.
Egypt’s admin is cities skylines mayor in real life.
Mh… there is still some beach left where you can add even more lanes!
This will definitely solve the problem!Yeah, ten is just unlucky, it’s obvious it will not work…
I love it when other countries copy the worst parts of America
