• @[email protected]
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    1378 months ago

    Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce

    Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.

    • poo
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      68 months ago

      Boomers are the most selfish generation 🤷‍♂️

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s a bit of a selection bias. The self-sacrificing, hard working boomers have died out.

        Only the greedy lazy bigots are still standing.

    • @[email protected]
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      148 months ago

      Sure, in fact, I’m about to have a kid very soon.

      Oh wow great. You know what it’ll be yet?

      Well of course, they’ll be a wage slave, just like their parents.

    • @[email protected]
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      418 months ago

      You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.

      Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.

        • @[email protected]
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          58 months ago

          Got it, I was more confused by the ‘around literal’ part of the comment. So like, are you summoning via a ritual? Honest question.

          • Daemon Silverstein
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            28 months ago

            While I do rituals, it’s not exactly a summoning ritual. I do rituals involving (red) candles, incense sticks, hand-drawn symbols and sigils in order to meditate and widen my spiritual perception, focusing on my openness to Lilith. Physically, my spiritual development is (sadly) not enough to see or hear, just feeling a shiver.

            I don’t (or, at least, I respectfully avoid to) summon Her, it’s She that suddenly and unexpectedly reach to me through one of the following three forms of spiritual interactions.

            The first and main form is through what’s called as “gnosis” (stream-of-consciousness): all of sudden, words start to pop in inside my mind, I feel the need to write them down. This leads to more unexpected text, until I have a long text, often containing Her spiritual directions and/or warnings (generally in a strict tone of a wake-up call, like a spiritual “dose of tough medicine”) to me, communicated through a free-flowing stream of mental words.

            It also involves dreams that inevitably became episodes of simultaneous false awakening loops and sleep paralysis (but not as unpleasant as it sounds), with Her presence becoming more and more intense to an almost unbearable point. In those dreams, all I can see is a silhouette figure standing somewhere across the room, so energetically intense for me to bear, where I’m caught on a mix of fear and awe.

            Thirdly and rarely, it’s Her name appearing at the most unexpected places. It’s the most complex interaction to explain through a brief summary, but: imagine trying to chill watching some TV Series regarding fictional FBI characters investigating mundane things (so, nothing nearly related to spirituality) and, all of sudden, you see “Lilith” written on a paper inside a scene. Or using Google Lens to find out what species is an insect that appeared inside your home, and being taken by the app to a 2019 insectology page (not even closely related to spirituality as well) whose author’s nickname starts with “Lilith”. Both scenarios are real and actually happened to me. Maybe it’s a confirmation bias, but it’s too coincidental to be random.

            I tried to summarize as briefly as I could, but I couldn’t avoid a long reply, sorry.

  • muculent
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    548 months ago

    When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.

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        188 months ago

        Seems like a side effect of unchecked greed instead. If it were properly designed people would be able to afford enough bread and circuses to stay complacent

    • @[email protected]
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      58 months ago

      If it gets bad enough, birth rates will go up. Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

      • @[email protected]
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        78 months ago

        Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

        That is more to do with education and women’s liberation (including contraception), than finances. Which I suspect is still the predominant reason that birth rates are dropping, with finances just a secondary reason.

        • @[email protected]
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          78 months ago

          They lack a social safety net for retirees, so children take care of them in their old age. Children are also a source of wage labor. We’re already softening up on child labor here in the USA to address the labor “shortage”.

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      28 months ago

      Having to take something out for a walk everyday?!? Even that’s to much.

      Cats are where it’s at!

  • @[email protected]
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    388 months ago

    Hey government, are you paying attention?

    • You want families? Help people make more money and give them assistance affording literally everything, especially childcare, healthcare, housing, and education.
    • Republicans: If you actually care about families, help them afford things as stated above.
    • If you really believe in small government, make it easier for immigrants to become Americans.

    Otherwise you’re gonna be starting down the barrel of a demographic collapse that will drag America into an economic gutter it’ll likely never class it’s way out of. Like China.

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      68 months ago

      Childcare is a massive one that needs government funding. You can pay 1.5k per child and given that many places do 1 teacher to 3 infants, the literal max that one teacher can make, if every penny went to the teacher, is 4.5k/month, or 54k/year. This does not include facilities, utilities, administration, taxes etc. we all know in reality the teacher salary is much, much less.

      In order to fairly compensate childcare staff, rates in reality need to be much higher. The problem is that severely limits access to childcare, which has a cooling effect on parents advancing their careers, because many will not have a choice between being a stay at home parent or working.

      Therefore the government supplementing the costs is a much-needed solution.

  • @[email protected]
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    368 months ago

    Maybe if our leaders created a society more conducive to having kids more people would have them.

  • @[email protected]
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    348 months ago

    For me it’s more about not subjecting a person to my own residual trauma and a society that’s accelerating towards self-annihilation

      • @[email protected]
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        148 months ago

        Unless you’re talking about FIRE, no: the oldest millennials are in their early 40s and have two decades to go before traditional retirement age.

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            That’d probably only work if you met your SO immediately when you began working, and you both had the same money plan.

            Otherwise it’s probably not enough saved money to support 2 people, only 1 (edit until the later 40s)

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                If you do it over 20 years absolutely it can be done.

                But to do that and retire in your early 40’s (40-43.33) as you suggest means people will need to likely meet in highschool or early college and work on it right away once they start earning income.

                Unless people happen to create a similar plan 20 years prior and are able to find each other many years into their plans. It is possible, but it’s harder.

                edit: changed the perspective to people, not specifically you.

          • @[email protected]
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            38 months ago

            If you’re that 1% super elite CS student, then sure you can retire at forty. The rest can’t even if they are child free.

      • Prehensile_cloaca
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        208 months ago

        As a Class of 2000, aka OG Millennial, wtf are you talking about?

        We’re in our early 40s.

        • @[email protected]
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          98 months ago

          That’s what I’m saying! Too old. Did you know the medical term for a pregnancy after 35 is geriatric pregnancy? Ya bro, we’re getting committed to the old folks home soon here, you and I.

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              48 months ago

              Americans who got lucky in life have a bad habit of shrugging off the majority that didn’t as somehow irresponsible and not worth considering.

              My cousin does this. Looks at you like you’re speaking a foreign language when you say you can’t afford something that would make your life easier like replacing a malfunctioning appliance right now.

              Privilege is a bubble of willful ignorance akin to the Republican bubble.

    • @[email protected]
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      58 months ago

      The youngest millennials aren’t even 30 yet, and there’s lots of places where most people have children in their early 30s nowadays

  • Fleppensteyn
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    1048 months ago

    Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because “that’s just what you do”. They didn’t even consider you could just not make babies.

    Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.

    • @[email protected]
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      218 months ago

      Right??? My siblings have an 18 year span, I’ll be 38 when the youngest graduates highschool. I feel like I already have kids, I’m doing so much emotional and financial support for these ones

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      98 months ago

      Worse in my case, I had the sort of parents who thought that more was better at any cost. My childhood really sucked.

      • @[email protected]
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        78 months ago

        Yep. My parents let me know why a burden my existence was at all possible times. They would leave me and my brother home alone (aged 8 and 5) after until bedtime. I have no idea what they were doing because work ended three hours ago. We lived off ritz crackers and easy to make food.

        The teachers would tell us to shut up and be grateful we had a home when we talked about being hungry. Back in the 80’s you didn’t get free/reduced lunches. You were just a kid who forgot their lunch money for the 100th day in a row because you are a stupid piece of shit.

        The 80’s were wild. No idea how Boomers got away with so much child abuse.

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    Well it’s 3 things for me:

    1. Too expensive
    2. Don’t think I’d make a good dad, especially since:
    3. I really don’t like children.

    I’m not an antinatalist, though. I think we can still improve our situation, so I don’t agree with choosing to not have children, because of the current state of the world, or because of fear it’ll become too extreme. I guess it’s possible you just want to wait to see if it gets any better, but personally speaking, if I were to have children, I’d choose to do so before I was 40. It isn’t enjoyable for the child, for them to be born much later than that.

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      Part of my problem is i can’t even find trustworthy relationships. Everyone is addicted to hook up culture and finding their next partner on their phone. I’ve even had people claim I’m sexist because I’d want my partner to remain sober during their pregnancy (I’d be willing to stay sober with them the entire time as well).

      • k_rol
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        I’m trying to understand who you hurt with your comment to get downvoted like that. I 100% agree with you and even for those who don’t, not drinking during pregnancy is an absolute must if you don’t want to fuck up your child’s health for life…

        As for not wanting to be part of the hookup culture is totally a valid personal choice. What’s wrong with that?

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          108 months ago

          Just guessing but “everyone is addicted to hookup culture” could come off a bit vaguely incel or the problem is everyone else, nothing wrong with me.
          Personally I have several friends & family members, who met their significant other through one “hookup app” or another. Most of them are married and have children nowadays, and are seemingly in very loving and caring relationships.
          Don’t get me wrong, datings sucks or rather I sucked at it; on top of that the scene could be even worse than it used to be. But you know, Michael Jackson told us all to start by asking the man in the mirror, to make that change.

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        268 months ago

        Ummm…those people are absolutely not people who should be having children anyhow so I guess you’re dodging a while bunch of Bullets?

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    318 months ago

    I wonder how many won’t have any due to the Weimar conditions in America or the looming climate apocalypse. In combination with financial issues I assume it is huge.

    • @[email protected]
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      68 months ago

      Very hard to justify bringing more people into the world when the folks already here feel so miserable.

  • Hannes
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    For me it’s the climate - no point in bringing a child in a world with a society that will inevitably collapse and a possible world war over land that’s still inhabitable.

    Adoption maybe - but for me more children only equal more future suffering - and if not for my children because it’ll be somehow possible to shield them from the worst then for a couple of others that have to suffer in exchange when western countries pull up the drawbridge and let the global south deal with the mess they made for those countries…

  • 🦄🦄🦄
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    Not having kids is one of the biggest middle fingers to the capitalist machine. Take away their wage slaves and lets see how much good their money will do the rich.

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      238 months ago

      All these conspiracy theories about how the elites want to reduce the world population have always been nonsense. If you look, all the most vocal ones have been promoting population growth and when you look at history, downward population trends have only increased the common person’s rights. They want a surplus of people so we fight amongst ourselves.