• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    5911 months ago

    “Raising a child costs money” is an complete unsupportable situation for any society and represents completely indefensible failure.

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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    11 months ago

    I hate being reminded that it costs money to go to the hospital and get your baby delivered in the US. Yeah it’s super expensive having a kid but i didn’t have to pay $10k+ to have it removed from my partner

  • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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    5911 months ago

    We have a complex and frankly fragile system of family members who care for one another’s kids and maintain specific work schedules so that one grownup is always available in my family, that we built from scratch (not really from a cultural background where this is the norm, it’s out of necessity) and it’s frankly the only way my family has been able to support any children.

    I’m genuinely not sure how a person pays for rent/mortgage, utilities, gas and food while also paying the kinds of prices that childcare costs in even low COL areas of the US.

    • operacion_ogro [he/him]
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      4111 months ago

      The only happy parents I know have family who regularly watch their kids, including overnight stays. The kids love it because they spend time with more family, and my friends love it because it means they still have time to work and do things for themselves outside of childcare. I frankly don’t know how the average atomized American family copes with raising children.

      • moonlake [he/him]
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        511 months ago

        I frankly don’t know how the average atomized American family copes with raising children.

        Apparently they are coping very poorly, as per recent surveys:

        “After breaking out responses from people with children under age 18, the APA reported that 48 percent of those parents and caregivers describe themselves as completely overwhelmed.

        “The parent-specific breakdown also found that 41 percent said most days they “were so stressed they couldn’t function” — double the number reported by non-parents — while 42 per cent said they were so stressed they felt numb.”

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    4111 months ago

    Breeder fetishist billionaires will continue worsening conditions until breeding increases porky-scared

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3611 months ago

    I know a lot of people who want to have kids (or more than one kid) who won’t because it would financially ruin them, and I live in a cheap ass rust belt city.

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    5111 months ago

    I am also unsure if the world is ending. The last generation of humans may already be alive. They may already be adults with college degrees. Mad Max is fine to watch on screen, but would be a horrifying reality to live in.

    I do not want to subject people to the upcoming WW3.

    • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]M
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      3911 months ago

      Humanity is going to survive, perhaps in small isolated pockets that never reach the potential capitalism squandered.

      That being said, if I were to have a kid I’d be taking on the burden of finding a way to set them up for a good life. I don’t see a good life in near to mid term future for anyone not extremely lucky in birth circumstance.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2211 months ago

        Humanity is going to survive, perhaps in small isolated pockets that never reach the potential capitalism squandered.

        The neoliberal propaganda known as “Kurzgesagt” said that if 99% of humanity is wiped out, that’s still a “win” for Team Humanity™. The propaganda declined to state what the planetary conditions would look like for that 1% but assumed everything would be fine after that.

        • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]
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          Seriously , if Kurzgesagt actually thinks that I’m absolutely disgusted, that sounds like Hitler particles shit right there.

          EDIT: disregard the stuff I said about Stalin’s quote. I double checked it and apparently that quote wasn’t even something he actually said.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1211 months ago

            if Kurzgesagt actually thinks that I’m absolutely disgusted, that sounds like Hitler particles shit right there.

            The words Kurzgesagt said were something about a “win for team humanity” with even a 1% human survival total during some industry-driven environmental collapse. There was some weapons-grade hopium about how wonderful it’d be for “team humanity” to live on with whatever killed the other 99% on so poisoned a planet.

    • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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      3011 months ago

      The world is closer to ended than ending. More than half of complex macroscopic life is already dead or replaced by monoculture/livestock. Today’s fossil record would lbe considered post extinction event to future alien paleontologists.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        411 months ago

        The end of human civilization may be occurring within our lifetime. So children born today may be fighting in wars over water or killed in nuclear attacks twenty years from now. They may not be able to survive these events. Meaning, they won’t have children of their own.

        If the damage is severe enough, the human population might bottleneck to where we won’t have enough genetic diversity to repopulate the earth. Sort of like how cheetahs are going extinct because they’re all born with the same genetic disorder and there aren’t any cheetahs without it.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2111 months ago

    They’re still pumping them out in Guatemala. I’m pretty sure we’re one of the countries keeping up North America’s birthrates.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]
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      111 months ago

      You jest, but I see this as the new angle for homophobia.

      frothingfash: “Those dang lgbt folk, we ordered them to have kids…but they’re in relationships where they CANNOT produce kids! No, you can’t just adopt and raise a child in foster care…you’re shirking your responsibility to give us more cattle!”