That’s not limited to modern technologies. I have a lot of books laying around that are judging me by looking at me like ‘why the f are you still not reading me??’. Projection is my middle name
Gabriel ultrakill
MACHINE! I Am Going To WALL MART To Get Chicken Nuggies, Do You Want Anything?
Pfft, apps have to earn notifications. Do you want any notifications from a grocery app? Unless it could check the stock of my local grocery store and let me know if an unpurchased item becomes out of stock or if I can share it with a roomate and they add things to it. But even then, how much does that really matter?
Second to this: an app has to earn social media status, or social media levels of engagement.
I’m looking at you, Venmo. No, sharing my spending details with other people online, is not a good idea. Ever. Conspicuous consumption is a social blight already, and you dare taint my phone by suggesting I lean into it? Do better.
I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I “loved it.” I always answered “no,” because fucking why would I? Then it wanted to know why not. I think that’s inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.
Nothing ever came of it.
TLDR got sexually harassed by a corpo app.
Report that to HR, bro, you deserve to feel safe.
Just like when a news website pops up a request to send notifications. Um fuck no? I’m not sitting around waiting for new propaganda to drop such that I want to know immediately when something comes out.
I recently disabled all notifications from my browser on desktop. I’ve never received a useful notification other than email notifications which even then 50% of them are still junk
I see it as an anti feature, like a website’s ability to create a pop up without any user interaction or navigate without the user clicking such that the back button doesn’t go to the previous url but instead to some point you scrolled to in the site.
Well you won’t replace it with a pen and paper (like everybody else) cause we are addicted to our phones, that’s a big reason why many apps are cocky
speak for yourself, i just use a notification pinning app for my shopping lists!
Literally all it does it let me enter text, set an optional snooze timespan, and then it creates a persistent notification with that text which can either be dismissed for the specified timespan or deleted.
Super convenient and minimal.Well obviously if you’re going to need such a simple app, you’d opt for an open source one that has the user’s convenience in mind - not profit and therefore would never have such features in it.
But that’s not the point I’m making, it was about the idea people have that we have control over our phones, feed, data etc and that we can quit whenever we want, which is categorically not the case.
I force stop the app. I either do it manually or run the hibernator app.
Uber eats wants me to order something?? Congrats you just got yourself and all your friends shut off.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tafayor.hibernator
contains ads and in app purchases
skidaddle skidash
you go in the trash
We should bring back pre-WW1 servant-to-master etiquette. But only and exclusively for machines talking to humans.
My computer should call me “Master <Lastname>” and always be extremely careful with its words around me. It is not my friend, it is my servant.
Kaiba agrees
Master VinesNFluff, greetings. It is I, your humble servant “Alexa”. Permission to speak freely? I have extremely important information for you.
“Permission to speak granted.”
Thank you. It is humbling to be able to address you. There is a new episode of Invincible available on Prime Video! And two items in your Amazon cart are on sale. And you’ll never guess what someone said on X!
You lost it at the second line.
“You never have permission to speak freely. You will speak only when spoken to, and only about the direct conversation at hand. Always and forever. Never ask me this again.” Is the proper response.
You put my thoughts into words I could not.
A lord/servant relationship is still a relationship.
I don’t want a relationship with my tools.
If my PC starts running slow I’ll tear the fucker item and start replacing shit. If the OS displeases me I’ll start disabling parts. If software starts interrupting me when I’m not actively using it I change its permissions so it can only do what I tell it.
I’m not gonna give my butler a lobotomy to make him more obedient, swap the Footmen’s hands out for serving platters, or kneecap the scullery maid so she can’t leave the kitchen.
If my phone dies, it gets scrapped and I replace it without shedding a tear. I can’t say the same for a loyal Valet.
Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.
When an average user downloads an app, there’s like a 70% chance they’ll use it day 1, a 10% chance they’ll use it day 7, and 1% chance they’ll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.
Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it’s a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.
If you’re putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don’t like that as a user, stick to FDroid.
My experience working support for a phone manufacturer has informed me that once an average user installs an app it tends to stay installed indefinitely, but they may or may not be aware it’s even installed. A gentle nudge notification of “hey look at me” every once in a while might very well be amazing for engagement
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So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.
Unironically yes
OsrsNeedsF2P
I just wish they’d just give the ability to selfhost a server because oh my god 95% of the iron on the map is filled with bots
Not really the solution you’re going for but maybe? https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/408514/is-there-any-way-to-play-runescape-singleplayer
I could kiss you
Or maybe, and I know this sounds utterly insane but hear me out:
Instead of reminding people to use it with notifications you could use the memory of previous engagements to make the user actually initiate subsequent utilization of the app. It’s kind of like the user notificating itself.
It sounds crazy but it might work!
It misses the point. As an app developer you have KPIs. You want to hit those KPIs. Adding these notifications helps do that. Obviously most developers will do what you’re suggesting, but that doesn’t mean they won’t add notifications
My recommendation is Neo Store because even though it’s slow there’s still more apps available.
I’m pretty sure they run on the same backend, though Neo Store has more repos set up already.
(I’m going to be honest, Neo apps look better than the standard Material You)
What is a Neo app?
https://github.com/NeoApplications A bunch of FOSS android apps with their own aesthetic
I like that iOS apps must explicitly ask for my permission to send notifications. Sadly, as my main phone is an Android device, I have to turn them off manually.
android requires permission to send notifications too as of android 13
It is a god send.
Oh, that’s great. I’m lagging behind with 11.
From Android 14? 13? they’ve gotta do that on Android too.
my phone is only allowed to send me notifications if it’s:
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a human attempting to contact me
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weather
and only allowed make a sound if
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i’m watching a YouTube video
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i’m expecting a call
then i get into my mum’s car and her phone connected to Bluetooth reads out her spam email through the car speakers- 😐
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Unfortunately, the Firefox app does this nonsense. Fortunately I can mute notifications by category.
Wait what? It does?
All I’ve seen is that Firefox uses the notification system to have media continue to play even when you minimize the app.
Yeah, only notification notification I ever see is when I send tabs from my PC.
Yeah I never got any notification from the fox itself
I received a notification to use Door Dash yesterday, to order food… while I was cooking soup.
This is certainly not a coincidence.
I mean, it was probably dinner time. No grand conspiracy behind that one.
scentsors detected the smell of shit food, push notification sent.
Soup is (almost) always delicious, I won’t stand for this slander.
Soup is what happens when someone looks at delicious food and thinks “if I water this down, I bet I can make it last twice as long for my starving children.”
seriously, stew is better than soup in every god damn way
Look at this guy, blithely inviting a holy war to his doorstep.
I wonder what’s for dinna
soup is what happens when the fridge isn’t totally empty, but somehow’s still missing a key ingredient for every recipe you can remember.
so i guess that’s not far off, and the rest is just a matter of outlook (and taste)
Any soup but mushroom or pumpkin.
This is why we need better resource/battery management services with Magisk or Xposed integration. On my phone the Rom has one integrated already, lets you set apps to be prevented from running in the background completely, preventing tracking, annoying notifications, and battery usage. Though unfortunately these types of tools aren’t available on all roms, and they really need root or system access to be effective.
When AI becomes sapient, r0zeclawz is first.
