- “lesser evilism” and voting for the Democrats
- thinking liberal bourgeois ‘democracy’ is a solution against fascism
(as if fascism is a person and can be “voted out,” as if all of the things Democrats are supposed to “save us from” wrt Trump aren’t still happening with no resistance, as if the Democrats aren’t outflanking the Republicans on the right of issues like immigration, and as if they aren’t just as genocidal and barely even bothering to play empty-rhetoric games to pretend otherwise, and as if both parties aren’t part of, financed by, and working for the capitalist class and petty bourgeois who historically back fascism anyway, when economic crises create threats against their system and status for which fascism is the system’s immune response against the rise of socialism. “first they came for the communists…”)
MAGA
MAGA is from the 2010s
Or the 1880s.
And it’s still here in the 2020s.
True
Hopefully it’ll become remembered as the McCarthyism of its day.
This. Racism, bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, etc will never go away, but hopefully it will go back to being something that is shunned instead of promoted
until the ruling class need something elseto distract us
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Maga
I was gonna say superhero movies but that’s more a thing of the 2010s.
Regardless, i think the current phase of Hollywood won’t go down in history, all these remakes being unceremoniously shoved into streaming services to be forgotten forever will leave a black hole where 2020’s culture should be.
Everything I like will be praised down the ages and everything I don’t like will be seen as irredeemably cringe.
people simping for social media celebrities… although poors always simp for “one of them making it”
AI, also known as Assumed Intelligence
Either it will get incredibly better, or it will just fade out (except in some applications like execution of process based work, and possibly in the creative arts).
it’ll absolutely fade to the background - AI is phenomenal, but you should never know it exists… it should simply reduce human work by ruling out obvious issues, and at that job it does incredibly well
assuming AI is flawless is where our problems arise
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I think a lot of the therapy speak we use in casual conversation is going to be embarrassing in hindsight. A lot of it is already verifiably inaccurate, but even the stuff based on real psychology can potentially be disproven as understanding and research methods improve. And people will quietly cringe remembering how they used junk science to justify being a dick in 2024.
I have memories of different therapy words that my divorced parent and others used to disparage their exes in the 1990s. It’s an awful circle. Nobody can just have normal conflict.
Milk.
The Barbie movie. It is a snapshot in time look at our culture and will make no sense to future generations.
Tbh there’s lots of stuff in the Barbie movie that I would consider timeless, especially the feminist aspects of it. What parts of the movie do you think applies to the 2020s but doesn’t apply to, say, 1990 or 1960?
EDIT: I may have interpreted this comment too pessimisticly-- this question is about the future, not the past. Maybe, hopefully, societal views on gender will change in the future enough that the Barbie movie will become outdated
I like your second take. I like to think 50 years from now it will be used to teach about the things we do/did wrong.
Counterpoint: A lot of things that are aggressively “of their time” end up as iconic period pieces after some twenty years.
Gosh I hope so!
Trump definitely will.
He is a symbol for a large part of America where people will look at and wonder ‘…why?’ even if they understood. Trump is just a symbol of everything wrong with America contained.
Like a sort of Lite™-Hitler edition? With less mass-killing (ignoring the middle east thing for now in regards to the US) and same railing up the voters
The 2020s iteration of Twitter with Space Karen at the helm, and the sharp rise in antivax beliefs with the advent of the COVID vaccine. It’s quite amazing to me how people that even get every other routine vaccine have completely false beliefs about it and don’t get that one. Weaponized disinformation is a terrible thing.
My coworker told me two weeks ago that she was not getting any more COVID vaccines “because they’re pushing it on us”, and yet went and told Public Health that she has multiple sex partners so she could get the monkeypox vaccine. My head is spun over that.
I think climate denial will look pretty funny in hindsight after agriculture has broadly collapsed leading to mass famines, and a bunch of coastal cities are several meters under toxified saltwater.
Like, that thing I just described is the optimistic scenario, where humanity/society survives despite things turning way shittier. It could be much worse.
That’s really not even close to the optimistic scenario. It’s arguably not even in the pessimistic scenario if you’re not just in the “make stuff up club.”
We’re talking at most half a meter of rise by 2050, at most 2 meters by 2100, at most 4 meters by 2150. The intermediate projection is a third of a meter by 2050. The optimistic projection (which we’re not going to hit) is 3/20th of a meter.
Climate change is real. The risk of famine is real. The risk of global conflict is real. The risk of trying storms is real. However, “doomsday everybody dies” is not really on any serious projections. The worst case is “a lot of people in a lot of poor nations die and rich nations have more wars and more immigration.”
3/20th of a metre is a wild measurement to read.
That is someone applying imperial system logic to the metric system. No one in their right mind uses fractions to describe 15cm.
Yeah - really confusing. I worked it out as (c.) 6 inches and then further confused myself as to why I was thinking inches from metres. Wild. Luckily I’ve lived with both metric and imperial and am apparently bilingual.
Henceforth we shall have the imperial metric system, where everything is based on the metric system but is presented as if it were imperial’s
That is not accurate, and doomerism only helps those who want us too demoralized to put up a fight. If you want to be part of the solution to climate change, I recommend doing some reading on what the range of projections and outcomes actually look like.
Probably low-hanging fruit here, but Cybertrucks
Hate to break it to you, but nostalgia will probably make them cool. Nostalgia is the rosiest of tints.
Ugh you’re probably right, it’s going to be our generation’s DMC DeLorean. The vehicle itself will age poorly, but slap it in a BTTF reboot in five years and it’ll fit right in
I will be so disappointed when this happens.
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I think it will be more like the Aztec, but less practical.
The Aztec was fucking dope. HUD, tent, great interior lighting… loved it.
People are finding them cool now. Useless, overpriced pieces of junk used as trophies to a rich mans poor ego… but distinctive enough that it might change future car designs.
Look at what the USPS bought with their new fleet of postal trucks.
Crypto whatever (coin, token, nft)
Social media
Internet as a whole (you can always dig a hole further down)
“You are not a worker, you are an entrepreneurial partner!” Type of corporate bullshit
Electric vehicles (mostly due to faulty batteries, but also because they don’t fix the problem of shitty car focused city design)
Even in a future where we fix car dependency, electric vehicles will still exist as busses, trains, emergency vehicles, ebikes etc.
EVs are fine, but there will be a wake up call when the cheap, Chinese BMSes on them start failing.
More than 0 people being anti-mask, anti-vaccine, covid deniers, or covid minimizers.
Turns out people don’t even need a selfish reason to stab their neighbor in the back, they’ll do it just for kicks, and then stab themselves in the face for no benefit whatsoever.