• FreshLight
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    299 months ago

    In a discussion about whether liking trans women is gay or not I said that they are all missing the point. Even if it was the gayest thing on earth, being gay should never be this big of a deal. And it just shows how hard it is for some to overcome the stigma of being gay, even if they are super tolerant in general.

    That started a group discussion with a lot of different opinions on that matter.

  • Vanth
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    869 months ago

    I was hanging with a group consisting of mostly older millennial gay men who don’t like that trans people are being included alongside them in conversations about human rights, sexuality, and gender. They think it takes away from the fight their community has gone through over the past few generations.

    I chewed them out. Like, a lot. I am usually not at all confrontational but I pretty much stunned them into silence. Now I’m waiting to let them process, expecting a couple to reach out to me to step back from some of the shit they were saying. If that doesn’t happen, I guess I’m not really welcome in that group anymore and I’m ok with that.

    There are no trans people in this group. I’m not a gay man nor am I trans. But when I hear shit like that, I hear echos of gay men activists not being willing to work with lesbian women activists, white feminists not includig black women, male laborers trying to keep women out of labor rights movements. It’s stupid. It’s tribal and hateful. It undercuts the strength the movement could have if we weren’t asshats about it.

    Rights campaigning 101, strength in unity. This is basic ass shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      149 months ago

      While I do agree that unity is the way to go in the fight for rights, I can understand why one would want to separate the T from the LGB. It’s an issue of consistency - L, G, and B all describe sexuality, while T describes gender. The two are related, but ultimately separate concepts - one does not inform the other, and grouping them can hypothetically lead ignorant people to think that they are directly related, which could hypothetically lead to non-straight cisfolk experiencing more oppression than they would have otherwise experienced due to the perceived association with transfolk, as non-conforming sexuality is more generally accepted today than non-conforming gender.

      That being said, it’s all hypothetical, and what matters is the reality that people from all spectra of nonconformity are regularly oppressed, and in many places, the oppressors treat anyone LGBT+ with the same disdain. So grouping them is vital for the sake of the most oppressed.

      • lapis [none/use name]
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        49 months ago

        I mean, you could similarly reason that bisexuals aren’t welcome (both gays and lesbians are solely attracted to the same sex, after all), or that asexuals aren’t welcome (you can be asexual and heteroromantic, after all), and so on. I think, ultimately, that unity between us is important, and allowing the umbrella to protect all members of gender, romantic, and sexual minorities strengthens the overall cause rather than weakening it.

    • @[email protected]
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      269 months ago

      Hell yeah. Concern silos divide the people.

      Trans rights are human rights

      Women’s rights are human rights

      Workers rights are human rights.

  • Chainweasel
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    489 months ago

    If it were supposed to be pronounced “jif” it would have been spelled that way.

      • @[email protected]
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        189 months ago

        GIF is an acronym. Giraffe is not. The Giraffe response has been debunked for decades.

        Graphical is a hard G.

        • @[email protected]
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          189 months ago

          Debunked? Its a counterpoint to the fact that it’s pronounced that way because it’s spelled with a g. If that poor argument wasn’t used, the giraffe one wouldn’t have to come up. It’s not evidence of anything other than that letters can be pronounced in more than one way.

          For the graphical thing, imagine pronouncing NASA wrong because of the way aeronautical is pronounce. Or underwater in scuba. World in WHO? The I in AIDS isn’t pronounced anything like immunodeficiency.

          Your argument doesn’t work either.

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        If there’s ever a Giraffe Interchange Format, I’ll pronounce it the same as giraffe. And unlike some people, I’ll be able to tell the two apart.

        • Cruxus
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          79 months ago

          In the meantime, there is a Joint Photographics Experts Group. I love me some deep fried jfegs!

      • @[email protected]
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        109 months ago

        How do you pronounce github? GIMP? GNU? GPU? Javascript?

        Oh Geremy, it’s time to jo to the jocery store! We need some jrape gelly.

        • Cruxus
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          119 months ago

          Geoff is a gentle German giant with ginger hair. He’s also a germaphobe, though generally he’s still a genuine gentleman. You get the gist.

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          29 months ago

          Wait they’re supposed to be pronounced with J? Except JS obviously I pronounced them all with G

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      This is a jem of a response, but by jeneralizing pronunciations of acronyms only by the way they are spelt, you are opening a jigantic can of worms on etymology and linguistics.

      The jist of it is that English is a weird language, jenerally descriptive, and there can be many correct answers to the same pronunciation problem.

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        59 months ago

        jigantic

        I read that as Jig-antic. I would have to turn it into jygantik for it to sound the same.

    • @[email protected]
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      169 months ago

      Laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and yet we all pronounce it “lay-Zer” not “lay-Ser”

      • Cruxus
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        129 months ago

        The A in amplification and E in emission are pronounced differently too, so the “correct” pronunciation would be “lah-seer”.

    • @[email protected]
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      229 months ago

      The creator of the format is documented as having confirmed the pronunciation is “jif”, but I don’t care. Once he created it and put it into the world, he relinquished his control.

      • @[email protected]
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        I honestly believe he was just trolling when he said that and he probably giggles to himself everytime someone says (shudder) ‘jif’. It’s a hard G from graphics so I don’t know how else is could be reasonably pronounced.

    • @[email protected]
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      39 months ago

      I think that’s polarising because using a weird incorrectly does not change its meaning; it’s far more subtle than that

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      79 months ago

      Lear Welsh or French. They’re both Prescriptive languages where that is (officially) true. English, however, is a descriptive language which means the dictionary is there to record how language is used not to define how it should be used

  • MostRandomGuy
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    129 months ago

    People considered woke often only focus on institutional racism and make every other form of racism seem unimportant, including those targeting so called “whites” / Europeans. (And I’m not trying to victimize perpetrators here, I’m aware of the current and historical situation in Western countries.)

    I see that institutional racism is a huge problem, especially in the West, but that doesn’t make any other form less important or significant.

    For comparison: just because in sub-saharan Africa people starve on a daily basis due to extreme poverty caused by Imperialism doesn’t mean that poverty inside industrial nations with less harsh effects is less of a problem, especially to the individual.

  • @[email protected]
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    129 months ago

    Telling 8th grade content teachers that they must modify their assignments to accommodate migrant students and English learners, and that just directly translating those documents forever wasn’t going to cut it. Gosh there was a lot of grumbling in the room.

    I get it, we’re short staffed and overwhelmed, but it doesn’t make it go away.

  • @[email protected]
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    129 months ago

    People should be free to vote for those who best represent them, secure in the knowledge their vote will still be counted against those they don’t want in office.

  • @[email protected]
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    119 months ago

    Markdown is trash. It almost always comes in a fork that is naturally incompatible with other forks & never has the features you need for blogging or technical writing (leading to abuse of the limited features, unsemantic markup output, and/or embedding HTML which is both ugly & also ruining portability to non-HTML targets). This leaves you locked into some specific tool’s forked implementation & never looks good in other contexts. Markdown was also never the only or best option for lightweight markup at any time.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 months ago

        Org mode is fine, better than Markdown, but still wouldn’t be my first choice for technical writing. I will still respect you for using it tho. 😄

    • @[email protected]
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      49 months ago

      Downvotes here showing it’s controversial, but I am willing to bet these folk have never given AsciiDoc, reStructuredText, & LaTeX a spin in comparison (for ‘real world’ documentation, etc. with multiple output targets) to actually know what they are talking about 😅

      • @[email protected]
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        19 months ago

        You can embed LaTeX math formulas in Markdown with $x = y$ on many clients.

        Let me try: $f(x) = \frac{1}{x}$.

        Doesn’t seem to work on Lemmy. Maybe a bug/missing feature?

        • @[email protected]
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          39 months ago

          It’s always a series of extensions nonstandardized but said to all be under the same umbrella. It would be better if these things called a spade a spade & say Markdown-like or Markdown-inspired instead of giving a false sense of compatibility.