• @BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    510 months ago

    I wish apartments in major metropolitan areas had green space like this. If I could have just enough of a yard for my dog and a small vegetable garden I’d happily live in an apartment.

    • @MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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      310 months ago

      You are probably looking for a small medieval town. Adding aparment blocks together makes transport cheaper. Hence you can built a walkable neighbourhood with good public transport. You then have green space outside the settlement. However that can be reached quickly in smaller settlements.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Major metros don’t have the extra space for hoarding. This is why people suffer the reduced economies of scale and move into rural areas. There’s gotta be tradeoffs, and what you pay in occasional power failures or road issues you get back in forests and streams.

      Edit: we agree that hoarded greenspace isn’t a public park, right? Like, that’s almost the opposite thing?

      But I mentioned the suburbs because gestures at a forest a bajillion times the scale of Central Park, a contiguous forest area the size of the Amazon

      Central Park is awesome - I loved watching the falcons at Mr Allen’s place back then, and I had a lion lunge at me in the zoo - but I’m sorry I wasn’t clear enough to point out that consolidated park space is the opposite mindset from the hoarded greenspace attached to each individual unit of sprawl of the sort we need to bulldoze for proper space.

      But yeah, downvote away.

    • @elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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      810 months ago

      Zoning laws in at least some areas in my country mandate that for every floor higher, the surounding open space must enlarge by so much. The result is widely spaced towers.

    • @hitwright@lemmy.world
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      410 months ago

      It’s easy to call it out like that, but I that apartments have design flaw, that it dehumanizes your neighbours.

      Something along road rage. You are stuck in a container and interaction with others are limited to annoyance.

      Maybe coop apartments would have a way to solve it, but it will break down if multiple suites are built next to each other. You can know/befriend a very limited amount of people.

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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        210 months ago

        You are stuck in a container and interaction with others are limited to annoyance.

        Nailed it. Either they’re annoying me with noise, or I’m constantly worrying that I’m annoying them with noise.

  • @bookcrawler@lemmy.world
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    510 months ago

    We’ve been dead set on getting something fully detached since living in an apartment style condo. There’s 0 enforcement of the little bit of laws we have as soon as it’s an apartment building. The city is 100% hands off for anything not detached. None of the laws on the books are focused on or designed with any kind of density in mind.

    The condo boards are HOA’s on steroids. The rulers of these little fiefdoms don’t just fuss at your lawn and paint. They decide if/when the roof will be looked at, if they should bother to top up the emergency fund as much as suggested, etc. It’s insane. As much as we prefer the low impact of high density, it’s just not livable.

    Family have tried finding apartment buildings (condo or rent) but have given up. All of them are studio, 1, or 2 bedrooms. Max seems to be ~900 sqft, which would be fine if they were square. Unfortunately they all seem to be very long and narrow. The 900sqft also includes balconies, storage spaces, and parking spots here. It’s not great.

    Every apartment style condo in this city also has serious building issues. The city just signs and doesn’t inspect. The builders (major builder #451) just disappear after each build as they “go under” and the major builder they were "part of " are not considered liable since it was a subsidiary. Regulations were put in place to prevent this with detached builds but they don’t cover condos.

    Until regulations make them livable I doubt we’ll see a serious adoption of them for a while here.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      210 months ago

      All of them are studio, 1, or 2 bedrooms. Max seems to be ~900 sqft,

      We’re renting a 3.5bd (the half is labeled a den as it’s only 7x9 vs 10x10) built this year.

      When you find a good one, jump on it.

      • @bookcrawler@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        That’s awesome! I’m jealous. Congrats! :D

        Sadly 7x9 is a legal bedroom size here, so long as it has a window. There’s also no requirement for any of the walls to be straight, so I’ve seen some really unlivable room shapes

  • @Tinks@lemmy.world
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    5310 months ago

    So um, why are the houses and nature mutually exclusive? I live in a suburban detached single family home, and my whole neighborhood is filled with trees, wildlife and even a tree lined creek that separates the back yards on my street from the back yards on the opposite side. You can’t even see my actual yard from google maps because it’s nearly entirely covered by tree canopy (at 6pm in summer my yard is 100% shaded). We have all sorts of wildlife including deer, foxes, owls, frogs, mallards, rabbits, squirrels, etc.

    While I agree that we do need more housing options of all sorts, I don’t for a second agree that nature and suburban housing are mutually exclusive. We just need to stop tearing down all the trees when we build, and plan better.

  • @Bosht@lemmy.world
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    2610 months ago

    Logic here is broken because we don’t make these decisions anyway. A developer will instead put 30 apartment buildings while chopping down anything that gets in the way, then charge more for rent than you’d be charged for the mortgage on the house. There’s also the fact that this picture assumes every family on the left pic doesn’t give a fuck about free scaping, preserving trees, or planting new ones? Idk, whole thing is jacked.

  • Jonah
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    210 months ago

    Put a few more towers there for double or triple the housing and we’re in business.

  • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    1010 months ago

    Density zoning is the source of the housing crisis.

    People think it’s market forces that have created the housing crisis, but it is exactly the opposite: government ha been artificially restricting supply for decades.

    There are so many places where 100 units is a more profitable use of land than 10 units, but it’s prevented by density zoning.

  • @systemglitch@lemmy.world
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    2110 months ago

    First one. I’ve lived in condos and I will do anything to always live in a house now. It’s the literal reason we sold a condo to buy a house.

    Life has been much better ever since.

  • @EnderMB@lemmy.world
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    710 months ago

    While I’m all for this, the problem I see with high-density buildings is that it’s easy to put them up, but it’s hard to then build the services that this many people need. You can put an apartment block with hundreds of new residents, sure, but where are the doctors, the schools, the hospitals, the public transport routes, etc?

    All very solvable problems, but one that high-density living often fails to cater for, because some rich developer cunt is happy to throw a high rise up and forget the rest.

  • themeatbridge
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    2410 months ago

    You think the corporate apartment developer is going to let all that stay green? That many people in apartments, you need a few parking lots, shopping malls, corporate centers, and then some more apartments once the rent goes up.