Clown graphics reminds me of the alt-right trolls who hate Mozilla for their stance on diversity and freedom. They are even late to the AI party, there isn’t a single “free as in freedom” AI around, are you aware of it?
God damn it I just switched from chrome to fire fox 😮💨
I’d argue that’s probably still for the best. Unless there’s a usable third party I’m unaware of, it’s all just Chrome/Chromium and Firefox, both of which are leaning hard into AI and ads.
At least Firefox doesn’t have a huge monopoly like Chrome, so I’ll be supporting the smaller guy in the meantime.
Ice weasal
AI + Ads = AIDS.
Just say no, kids.
Hate to say it but can not realy blame them. They need to make money somehow. And Google wont pay 80% of their bills forever.
Watch them still not making money in 10 years.
At the moment, I have a hard time to imagine them even surviving that long. But “Totgesagte leben länger”.
But this is not a Mozilla-exclusive problem. Open source in general has a massive funding problem.
You were supposed to be the CHOSEN ONE
A few days ago there was a thread that was talking about fingerprinting.
I started playing with cover your tracks by the EFF.
https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/
It turns out that Firefox was routing all my browser DNS traffic around my pi-hole. (It is called DNS over HTTP or DOH)
I had no clue.
That’s supposed to keep you from being monitored by bad actors over public Wi-Fi, iirc.
Makes sense. It really needs to be a network dependent setting.
My user.js has over 400 lines now and is almost the same as Arkenfox’ user.js.
Just wait until they start serving ads for things that don’t exist and then throwing manufacturing together to make them on demand.
that’s exactly what AI will accomplish, can’t wait them to start making “Skibidi Toilets” because the algorithim told it to
Unfortunately OP is right.
Here’s some alternatives that use the same base as Mozilla, and maybe they might pick up the shards soon: Waterfox, LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser
Considering Manifest V3 in Chromium and how the browser kit is forcing quite a few things on us there’s also a solid chance people will independently rework the chromium base into a new web browser toolkit soon, but we’ll have to see. Either way, next few years will undoubtedly bring a lot of change to the browser landscape.
It might be time to sync everything over to Mull Browser. I’ve been dabbling using it but just haven’t committed to switching over completely.
librewolf for when the site NEEDS javascript to run and icecat for everything else, trying out mull browser
(yt-dlp for youtube lol)
I’m personally using Vivaldi until the adpocalypse next year
Wait, did I miss something? I was under the impression that Vivaldi wouldn’t be affected by the Manifest v3 change since their adblocker is independently developed… is that not the case?
AFAIK something is expiring next year that will bring it in line with the other chromium browsers.
A browser tied to a VPN provider would probably harm adoption in the wider scheme of things. That would be a next-to-impossible sell for business IT for one thing, but also the optics generally aren’t great at all, especially if said VPN provider finds itself in hot water related to the primary usecase for commercial VPNs (illegal activity)
No, worries. We will always have forks. Mozilla wins simply by having their only competitor be Google.
The problem is they have to come up with a new source of income now that it looks like Google’s payments to be the default search engine to them are illegal.
That’s like 90% of their revenue, so they’re panicking.
They could make a web server and sell support for it.
I mean, I understand this argument, but Mozilla is still vastly superior to the alternatives. And as others have pointed out, even if Mozilla kicks the bucket, Firefox is open source and forks exist.
Mozilla has been making a lot of questionable decisions, but they are nowhere near the point-of-no-return yet. Mozilla is still a company, and companies make corporate decisions.
Only a good AI can stop a bad AI with a pun
RIP Mozilla. Glad all their shit is open source.
people been saying the ships been sinking since netscape. version 130 now
It has been sinking. Adtech is cyber warfare. They sold out. https://make-firefox-private-again.com/ everybody be sure to change your settings in about:config to disable that Anonym bullshit. No, we’re not the ‘product’ we’re human beings.
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The only thing I don’t like about Firefox (other than no PWA capability) is the ‘dark pattern’ of how when the home page loads, the first three of the six items shifts to the right after the page has started loading, and are replaced with sponsored links. So, if I go to click on YouTube when I launch Firefox, there’s a fair chance that by the time I get to click there it’ll suddenly jump over to the right and I’ll end up clicking some other link.
To me, that’s sketchy behaviour.
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Not on desktop though.
You can disable those ads though…
I don’t mind the ads. I just don’t like the ‘trickery’ of them shifting the existing shortcuts after the page has already loaded.
The only good ad is a dead ad
Check this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/ It doesn’t have super advanced capabilities of PWAs however the “pwa creators” already assume one is using Chrome etc.
Yes I’m using that. It’s fine if you only have one pc, but a pain having to set it up every time you set up another Linux install etc.
AI -> ADS
AIADS
AIDS