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I think I must be heartless.
But according to western military experts that are promoted by bibi himself, the IDF is the most moral army on earth and does more to mitigate civilian casualties than any army in history???
Modern weapons are so accurate, so when I see this now I’m pretty sure that it was intentional don’t let them deceive y’all by the ‘most moral army in the world’ bull shit, Their goal is to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian ethnicity, they want more and more land. It’s pure genocide yet the west still fund them what a world are we living in! Now you can’t blame a kid for joining Hamas when he grows up in all of this and see all his siblings die or his relatives. Pain will cause pain and violence will cause violence it’ll be an endless loop.
Now you can’t blame a kid for joining Hamas when he grows up in all of this and see all his siblings die or his relatives.
When you bomb the shit out of any area you claim to have terrorists in all you do is create more terrorists. It’s like the oldest concept in history that we absolutely refuse to learn because it’s beneficial not to when you need a terrorist to point at to justify your bullshit…
Israel was warned before October 7th and they decided to ignore it, They wanted this to happen in order to destruct and destroy Gaza. Netanyahu is a War-Criminal and I simply can’t wait to see him held accountable for all of that!
I sincerely hope this happens, but Israel owns our current administration, and apparently the US has veto power on the UN, which seems like a dumb idea.
Does it list cause of death? I assume the babies are dying cause of unavailabilty of pre- and post natal care, as a result of hospitals being unavailable. Or perhaps there is widespread starvation going on. Children usually succumb first to that.
Why? Is being killed by the direct results of bombing somehow not as bad as being killed by the bombs themselves?
I didn’t say that.
Can you spell out exactly why hospitals are “unavailable”?
War causes a breakdown of public services.
How does that happen, exactly? Are you implying that something happened to those hospitals? Any idea what that could be?
Or where that mysterious starvation is coming from that might possibly be going on
Im not updated on the situation enough to say if starvation has really taken hold yet.
This is extremely depressing, These babies didn’t deserve this… No one deserves this at all!
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They’re experts at cybersecurity
Fun fact: Cellebrite is made by an Israeli company
Unit 8200 is also Israeli along with NSO group.
Nah. That is just part of the lie to make you think they are some indestructible super machine of super soldiers when they are just people with access to expensive weapons.
They missed an entire plot from their prisoners to rebel and commit a terrorist attack because they just talked about it in person instead of online.
This kind of thinking helps Mealnie Sue housewife in Indiana feel good about the killing of innocents cause the greatest smartest force couldn’t possibly be wrong or uninformed about things.
They know they are bombing civilians. They know that, trust me. But they don’t care nearly as much to know exactly who. That’s to be spun afterwards.
They BETTER start Caring! If they start Murdering a couple hundred Thousand more Babies the US MIGHT think about MAYBE giving them LESS Bombs!
Or more bombs, if you know what I mean 😳
Well that’s fucking depressing
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This is specifically children killed by israel. An article from 6 months ago:
Gaza: Number of children killed higher than from four years of world conflict
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I can just about guarantee it’s worse since bombing hospitals tends to have a higher infant mortality rate than the usual causes of SIDS.
possibly, depends on where you gather statistics. Third world countries have a lot of people, and worse infant mortality, so it might still be pretty high.
Let me know when you find a country with a worse infant mortality rate than one that has been largely bombed to rubble.
“totally not a genocide you guys”
Fuck you. I know a war crime when I see one.
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Gaza has other people besides Hamas, but then again you probably love the idea of mass burial graves made from children the Isrealis “harrased.”
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Are you arguing that it’s a complete lie and hundreds of newborn children in Gaza haven’t died since October 7th?
No, didn’t even refute the mass “harassment” claim.
For what it’s worth, I hope the Russians can get rid of their government and find freedom.
I’m confused why you felt it was necessary to point out that the ministry of health was run by Hamas then, and what bearing you felt that bright to the information?
Here’s the right Person:
Would you repost Israels numbers of casualties in this War?
No? because it’s propaganda? good, proud of you. But then why would you repost and not question Hamas’ numbers?
You do realize they’re at least as much lying bastards as the Israelis, right?
I still don’t see that the exact numbers In this report matter, it’s undeniable that dozens of babies and thousands of children have been murdered by the Israeli state.
If you accept that, and I don’t see how you can’t, then I don’t see how it’s possible to defend those actions.
Have you replied to the wrong person?
yeah, I have. sorry
Are you arguing that it’s a complete lie and hundreds of newborn children in Gaza haven’t died since October 7th?
YOU DONT LIKE HAMAS YOU MUST BE A RACIST XENOPHOBIC BIGOT
“look bro it’s just war, idk what you want me to say about it, reporting numbers is hard, especially in war torn countries”
THAT’S AN UNREASONABLE OPINION.
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I would take them with a grain of salt, just as I take this with a grain of salt. But are you saying children under one years old haven’t been killed in this war? And if not how many Gazan children do you see as an acceptable number of casualties?
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I was trying to come up with some sick joke about the babies being antisemitic in the eyes of Israel, but I threw up a little bit every time I tried.
And I’ve got a dark sense of humor, so that’s saying something. >.<
What’s the difference between food and a pile of dead babies?
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The victims fought back, which is not allowed
The vast majority of Palestinians killed were women and children. Israel didn’t fight back against Hamas, it’s goal is Genocide and if Hamas disappears then Israel won’t have their precious excuse anymore.
Not sure fighting back was the best move in this case, since it caused this sort of response. But it’s not really for me to do that math
There are no good moves for the oppressed group in an apartheid state. Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist by the US for fighting against the South Africa apartheid state
No but some actions have a bigger return than others. To me the October 7 attacks don’t seem like they gained much consider how many have died, but like said, it’s not for me to calculate that or decide if it’s a good exchange. Maybe Gazans consider it a good outcome, I dunno.
Gazans are disposables for every party involved besides gazans themselves. Both Hamas heads elsewhere and Bibi’s admin had a streak of luck with these attack and response since it gave them a reason to be and get international support. Although this situation wasn’t okay since the formation of Israel as a state, I don’t side with people who want either Palestine or Israel to become undone since both exist for longer than I’m here, but what I miss is a peacekeeping mission that’d at least stop the bloodshed and it’s funding.
It might be hard to get a peacekeeping mission going there since many countries would never want to get involved in the political clusterfuck that Israel/Palestine thing is. You’d need a country that’s acceptable to both sides and who wouldn’t mind getting involved when things get tough. What to do when one side strikes against the other and so on.
Yep, moreso after Balkans and after US leaving Afghan. No one wants to take responsibility and send their guys as a mere body shield, especially as other countries are not prepared to react on their troops being killed by either side, especially Israel. That, though, is the only way I see these attrocities getting stopped, because I don’t see any economical mechanism slowing down the genocide of gazans. In spite of all shit US and UN had for being involved in foreign politics, that’s the time they can do good and save people, and it’s kind of dishearting that it’s the time they’d not as long as it’s possible.
Palestine is actually an interesting A/B test: you have Gaza, that is resisting, and West Bank, that is collaborating, and you can compare the results:
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Gaza is being subjected to periodical flare-ups of genocide, causing much consternation in the world media, and despite the world governments largely continuing to back Israel, the sheer mask-off nature of the violence seems to have caused the public opinion to shift.
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West Bank is being subjected to constant low level ethnic cleansing, disposession, and removal. There are occasional pogroms, but overall it’s been quiet and ignorable. Consequently, most people forget they even exist, and those that do can get away with “hoping for peace”, thoughts-and-prayers style, as the removal continues.
You be the judge.
How have the deaths been, comparing the two?
Is your suggestion to let the Israelis take your land more slowly, so they don’t kill as many of your children?
By the way, 60,000 of them are Americans.
I wasn’t suggesting anything, I was asking what the numbers are like. I think how many people will die as a result of each policy is something that probably does make sense to consider.
I’m sorry, it’s hard to tell if someone is sincere or Just Asking Questions. In this case, the options are a slow genocide (West Bank) or a fast genocide (Gaza), so the short term numbers alone paint a misleading picture of the relative merits of each strategy. Israel’s gonna remove the brown people either way.
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There is fighting back, and then there is their response.
Think of it like the Proud Boys went to Mexico and gunned down a small town and took hostages back to Texas. Mexico attacks the Proud Boys in response, then starts wiping out hospitals, schools, residential zones in Oklahoma and New Mexico, places and people that have nothing to do with the Proud Boys. And the world stands by and watches.
Do you want a closer comparison? And you don’t even need to imagine.
The US army stealing land from natives and saying the natives are the bad guys because they retaliate against the occupation.
The only day on the Israeli calendar.
Buncha actual Hamas adults attacked Israel and killed 815 civilians
“they include two infants, 12 other children under the age of 10, 36 civilians aged 10-19, and 25 elderly people over the age of 80.”
A response was appropriate. But THIS response is Vlad the Impaler levels of overkill. Israel of all nations should know that a brutal genocide will turn world support to its victims and radicalize its survivors.
But THIS response is Vlad the Impaler levels of overkill.
I resent the comparison to one of my country’s most beloved leaders.
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You know, you can find the unjust bombardment of the Gaza Strip (and now also the West Bank unfortunately) wrong, and not compare it to the Holocaust at the same time?
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Putting together the bombing, indiscriminate killing of civilians near the aid centers, and blocking aid convoys to restrict calories available in the “humanitarian” areas, paints a pretty good picture. The only thing they haven’t copied from Nazi Germany yet is camps with ovens.
Per the IHRA definition of antisemitism, observing similarities between the actions of Israel and the Nazis is antisemitic:
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
This is the preposterous interpretation adopted by the United States, other countries, and many institutions. The extremist Zionists who continue illegally expanding their land grab in the West Bank during their genocide in Gaza have successfully made legitimate political discourse “antisemitic”.
Yeah the Israeli government pushed hard for that nonsense IHRA definition.
and not compare it to the Holocaust at the same time?
this is true, but i also see people talking about nazism a lot, most of them being pro palestinian, so…
Ah. just what I wanted to see opening up this app.
How the fuck do I tell Lemmy to NOT RECOMMEND me stuff like this?
Unsubscribe from planet earth
I did that already, It just gave me death.
Blocking a boring dystopia is not a bad move if you don’t want depressing reality.
I consume enough “Depressing reality” Via Twitter topics and from the news/articles. I don’t want this leaking into Lemmy also.
Also it does me 0 Good to constantly remind myself of all the dead fuckin babies In Hamas. There is NOTHING I can do to fix, help, save, or improve such an issue All is does is make me depressed and Spiral into existentialism. As horrible as it sounds I would much rather feign ignorance for most of it. All I need to know is Who is helping to stop the war and who isnt.
Yes, so block this sub, as I said.
I’m going to go retch in the bathroom for awhile.
Erm akshurally, did those newborn babies condem Hummus? ☝️🤓
Didn’t think so, obviously they deserve it
