My laptop is running out of storage space and I don’t have anything I can remove anymore to increase it by much, so I’m thinking about building a pc. I’d also like to find a better gpu for doing video editing.

It will be the first one I’ve built, so I don’t really know what I need. Also, does it matter for compatibility for Linux whether I go with AMD or Intel?

The high end of what I want to use it for is video editing with Kdenlive or Davinci Resolve, some modeling and animation in Blender, and some light gaming, like Minecraft or TUNIC.

I figure one of these guides might be useful, but I don’t really know which.

Is there anything else I should know for setting up a PC to run Linux?

Edit: Maybe these guides from Logical Increments can help actually.

  • Julian
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    197 months ago

    Some build advice:

    • Be safe - don’t wear socks, stand on a hard floor if possible, ground yourself if you have a wrist strap for that, and discharge any static by touching metal and/or the case before touching any components. And no matter what, DO NOT open the power supply, and definitely don’t touch anything in it!
    • The huge motherboard connector probably requires more force than comfortable.
    • Watch through at least one build guide before starting. That way you know the process.

    Hope that helps, and don’t let it scare you away - it’s really fun to do and if you’re careful, chances are nothing major will go wrong.

    • mypasswordis1234
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      67 months ago

      At first I thought you meant these “programming socks” from Linux community 😭 But still a great advice

  • @[email protected]
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    57 months ago

    Older generation hardware usually has better support on Linux. So don’t buy the lastest chipsets. Otherwise you might have to live with an unstable driver and compiling your own kernel for up to a year.

  • bizarroland
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    I’ve noticed that when I am specking out a new computer I typically fall into the trap of wanting the absolute best computer I can get for the money.

    I’ve always been on the cheaper side, so I have found myself spending days or weeks researching various parts at various quality levels at various prices.

    It becomes a huge drag.

    Set the budget that you’re comfortable with, find the motherboard that has the features that you want, then get a CPU that fits in that price range, a case that fits your use cases, and then if you’re going to splurge on anything splurge on the power supply as a good power supply can last you through multiple computers.

    If you have to save money somewhere, save money on RAM as you can always order more or upgrade the rim that you have relatively inexpensively. Maybe if you’re going intel, purchase an i5 CPU and then consider upgrading if you max out its abilities or you find yourself frequently running at 100% utilization.

    And don’t overlook pre-builts. There are lots of refurbished computers that you can purchase for far less than the cost of the individual parts that have all of the minimum specs that you want in exchange for little things like only having a single stick of ram or having a low quality SSD.

    There’s nothing that stops you from upgrading later should your use case change.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      67 months ago

      Thanks so much. I don’t have a budget set yet, but it didn’t occur to me that I can just upgrade if I need higher specs haha, so that’ll make budgeting a lot easier.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 months ago

        Also, wait until Christmas if you can. Most computer parts have their deepest sale then (it’s not Black Friday, surprisingly).

        • @[email protected]
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          27 months ago

          If there’s a Microcenter in the area, they do pretty great deals around tax return season (if in US), lots of cpu+RAM+MOBO combos for a good $200 off.

    • @[email protected]
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      47 months ago

      Second the power supply. Nicer ones come with longer warranty (i think the Seasonic Titanium+ ones have a 10 year?). A bigger motherboard with more features/ports/slots can also be shifted to home server duty in the future better than say, an ITX board.

      • @[email protected]
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        27 months ago

        Nicer ones come with longer warranty

        Nicer ones also come from companies with actual customer support that will replace your PSU if it fails in that warranty period, too.

        Be Quiet is good, Seasonic is good and uh, yeah. Buy one of those.

        • @[email protected]
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          17 months ago

          I have no idea what you’re referring to, diablotek is a perfectly valid power supply manufacturer (/s do they even still exist? I heard they were legendary for exploding)

          • @[email protected]
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            37 months ago

            The really fun ones were the Deer PSUs.

            They existed in one of two conditions:

            1. Destroyed your entire computer, and currently on fire
            2. About to destroy your entire computer, and maybe on fire
  • @[email protected]
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    47 months ago
    • Stay clear from nvidia. AMD if you buy a graphics card, if you just use integrated graphics both AMD and Intel are fine
    • When picking a motherboard, look what wifi chipset is used and check Linux compatibility. Some wifi chipsets require to manually install drivers, and some just don’t work at all
  • The Hobbyist
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    137 months ago

    You only mention your laptop is running out of space so you need to get a new computer? does your laptop have a soldered SSD? If that’s not the case, I think the reflex should first be to see what storage you can get your laptop so that you can keep using it rather than discarding it :(

    • Snot Flickerman
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      107 months ago

      This is good advice. Large SSDs are cheap, and often make a big performance difference on older laptops.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      I am applying for university soon so I will still be using it, I also just want more power for running blender and such, but thanks for the information.

      • jlow (he/him)
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        Can someone chime on who has used Blender with both and AMD GPUs vs Nvidia? Everything I could find out (which is surprisingly little) is that AMD is much slower (no real Cuda/Optix equivalent?) but I have no idea if that is true.

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          Mh, taking another looks at Blender benchmarks ( https://opendata.blender.org ), highest Nvidia median score is 12k (4090), the one I have atm (4070) has a score of 7.2k, had a laptop with a mobile 4080 before (5.7k). I haven’t really noticed any difference between them, tbh, so take this next bit with a giant bit of salt: Highest Amd score is 3.9k for a AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (I know nothing about Amd GPUs, most reviews are from 2022/23), not really sure what to make of this but it doesn’t look too good for Amd?

          • @[email protected]
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            27 months ago

            High use Blender users tend to avoid AMD for the reasons you point out.

            This leads to less updates due to amd users not being to interested in the community.

            It is an issuw without any practicle solution. Because as I need a long overdue update. Again nvidia seems the only real choice.

            Everyone is sorta forced to do that unless we can convince amd users to just try out blender and submit results.

            So hi any AMD users who dont care about blender.

            Give it a try and submit performance data please.

  • CocoLopez
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    Not sure if this would help, but I found this channel helpful for understanding the basics and mostly avoiding wrong parts. Also he has some videos were he explains why you should choose one part over another.

    Scatter volt channel

  • @[email protected]
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    GPU go with AMD, I don’t think I need to give much explanations here.

    CPU you can do either, BUT AMD is usually better for multi-threaded applications (like video editing, modeling or animation), also an AM5 slot should last you years to come, AMD stayed with AM4 for a long time (I had most of the same PC for almost a decade thanks to that, it’s still the same AM4, but I had to replace the MOBO since the old one broke). So I would also choose AMD here, although Intel is not bad either, and if you get it in a sale it might come out cheaper.

    • @[email protected]
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      67 months ago

      AMD stayed with AM4 for a long time

      You’re not wrong, but I also wouldn’t explicitly buy AM5 expecting anywhere near the same duration of new CPU support.

      They haven’t announced where Zen 6 CPUs will land socket-wise, and the most sane thing to do is just assume it’ll be a new socket since their “four years” of socket support is Zen4+Zen5, which is what we’ve already gotten.

  • ☂️-
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    cpu wise both amd and intel are decent.

    gpu wise stick with amd.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    pcpartpicker.com is a good place to start and can help you know if specific parts are compatible but it’s just a place to start and is often still missing important info.

    So you still need to do due diligence and do things like check measurements to make sure, for example, your video card will actually fit inside your case, etc.

    Also, since its your first time, you want to avoid any motherboards that require you to do a BIOS update to handle a newer processor, because that’s just complicated stuff that you’re going to want to skip as a beginner.

    It’s more expensive but go for a newer motherboard that is compatible with your processor out-of-the-box. BIOS updates are a pain and scary even for advanced users.

  • data1701d (He/Him)
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    77 months ago

    My first question is about your laptop; is the SSD removable, because if so, even a pretty large SSD is cheap these days.

    Also, the GPU question is complicated. For most use cases, AMD is better on Linux. However, since you’re doing Resolve and Blender, that gets a bit murky. It depends on if ROCm support is less dismal on later AMD cards - I have an RX 580, which AMD quickly dropped support for and I am bitter about.

    This is not to say I like NVidia, but for fast video encoding and rendering, as far as I know, it’s the easier option. Someone correct me if I am wrong, please.

    As for actually building the thing, you’d start by look for what CPU you want, then find a compatible motherboard, then read the board’s compatibility list for RAM. They usually have compatibility lists for storage - those don’t matter, as it’s pretty universal. Then choose a graphics card, a case with the right form factor, a PSU, and a cooler. I tend to go with liquid cooling, as it’s not that expensive anymore.

    Like others have said, check kernel support for your hardware, but also, it’s generally much easier on desktop. The main things to look out for are ethernet and WiFi controllers. By the way, what distro do you prefer, because that’s definitely a factor.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      Thanks for the information, it’s all very helpful. I’m thinking of just using my laptop as a secondary device when I’m out of the house, so a hard drive upgrade won’t be necessary, but I’ll definitely keep that in mind. As for a distro, I’ll most likely be using Fedora.

  • jevans ⁂
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    As you have in your post, Logical Increments is a good place to start.

    As others have said, AMD is your best bet currently, mostly because of raw performance compared to recent Intel offerings. If you have no limited budget or power requirements, here are my recommendations:

    If you have the paid version of Davinci Resolve, AMD does not have the best selection of hardware encode/decode options, but people have reported that Intel Arc GPUs work, so I would get and Intel A310 as a secondary GPU if that is something that you need.

    If you want the best of the best GPU, without going Nvidia, the AMD RX 7900XTX is it. Also, AMD has stated publicly that they are moving away from high-end GPUs, so there probably won’t be a better one coming out anytime soon.

    If you want to plan for more gaming than you stated in your post, the Ryzen 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market, so I would get that. If you plan to focus on video editing, the 9950X is the best, but probably not worth the cost compared to cheaper 9000 or 7000 chips.

    If you go with a Ryzen 7000 or 9000 CPU, get DDR5-6000 CL30 memory.

    If you’re getting an air cooler for your CPU, don’t pay more than $50. There are a ton of great, cheap options these days.

    Get either the new Antec Flux Pro case (when it’s available, probably this month) or the Fractal Torrent if you care about best thermals and quiet operation. Everything else is a compromise.

    If you need HDMI 2.1, you’ll need a DP -> HDMI adapter on an AMD GPU because of a licensing squabble.

    Those are things I could think of off the top of my head. I don’t think I missed anything big.

  • @[email protected]
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    77 months ago

    ebay, ebay, ebay (and also pcpartpicker).

    Unless you want to frag people at 4k@140Hz in the latest AAA game, you probably don’t need the latest generation components (and I’d say your requirement are quite low here, consider how the only thing you complain about is storage space).

    Unless you really want to assemble everything by yourself, consider buying one of the second-hand, previous-gen gaming rigs on ebay (but watch out for scams!). Even if you do want to assemble the PC yourself, consider buying used parts on ebay (or buying a full PC to cannibalize reselling the excess).

    What are the specs of your current rig? Except for storage, are you satisfied with how it runs? How much storage do you need for the projects you are working on? How much to archive things? Do you want to do anything about backups? Is a full size tower ok? How good a video do you want? What is your budget?

  • @[email protected]
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    If you’re using davinci resolve then you’ll need an Nvidia GPU for nvenc to work. Otherwise, I’d say go all AMD like I did with my current and first PC, too. Fuck Nvidia even though a lot of people say it’s better now, but I have Nvidia PTSD and will never buy their shit. I have a Ryzen 7 5700G that comes with a built in GPU and a friend of mine gave me an old ass RX580 GPU that has been doing just fine for two 4k monitors. If you can give up davinci resolve or work with it halfassed, then all AMD is amazing. It’s basically plug N play.

    • data1701d (He/Him)
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      17 months ago

      I agree with you on the 580, although I got mine new and use it with 2 1080P monitors. I do wonder if ROCm works any better on newer cards, but I don’t have my hopes up.

      • @[email protected]
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        2 4k monitors have been working on all games. I do admit that some games have to be set to low settings, but in general, I’m have a blast What’s ROCm? Lol

        • data1701d (He/Him)
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          27 months ago

          ROCm is basically AMD’s GPU compute system, like CUDA but worse but better because the card is actually usable for desktop stuff.

          However, they only support it on specific distros, and they’re really weird about what cards they support. This should be changing soon - Debian’s been working on packaging it natively, and I think so has Fedora.

  • @[email protected]
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    97 months ago

    I built my current PC using one of those PCPartPicker guides, and I’m very happy with it.

    The only issue I had was the video driver. I use the Linux Mint Long Term Support version, and the kernel didn’t have a recent enough driver for my card. I just needed to switch to the latest kernel and it was good to go. I actually had no idea how to troubleshoot it, and went to the LM forum to ask for help. I was reading through the guide on what info to supply with help requests and realised that the example fault and solution were the exact ones I was facing!