• @[email protected]
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      277 months ago

      They literally ran out of ideas, like, 20 years ago?

      They’ve just been trying to say random-ass shit to justify their marketing budget since then.

      Windows basically stopped around 7 and mostly went backwards, and when is the last time you thought about the version of office you use? Do you even use office, or can you get by with google docs?

      OneDrive is by far more of a pain in the ass than anything else, nobody ever WANTS to use it, they mostly get hijacked by it early on and try to ignore it like a masturbating hobo on a subway car.

  • @[email protected]
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    57 months ago

    Much more interesting is the part about Relayed RDP Shortpath. With STUN and TURN and even a relay it sounds like this will enable some usecases similar to TeamViewer

    • Kairos
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      Their only product is that more programs run in windowd and people love the interface even though they keep fucking with it.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 months ago

        I strongly dislike Windows - the only Windows device on my network is my wife’s work computer. However, my favorite desktop interface is the one Windows had in XP and 10. I even use Cinnamon because it’s the most similar experience (and shares a lot of the same key shortcuts I learned as a kid).

  • @[email protected]
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    277 months ago

    Classic Microsoft, muddying the waters of something that was clearly defined in its role and name

  • @[email protected]
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    107 months ago

    Gold medal of tautology. At this point, people still using windows voluntarily don’t deserve any better. And IT departments having a choice but forcing windows on users deserve to be burned at the stake.

    • Prethoryn Overmind
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      77 months ago

      Ah yes, the always shitty, “I know everything because I am that business and person all the time and better than them.” Shit fucking comment.

      At this point people who are like, “just use Linux” sound like, “just buy an iPhone.” The only difference is the Linux people don’t end up actually knowing shit about enterprise environments

      I will get down voted because Lemmy is an Echo Chamber with people circle jerking their self justified opinions.

      But seriously fuck off, dude. Anyone that literally says this doesn’t know shit about an actual environment.

      Let me know when fucking Oracle’s shitty products work better on Linux boxes over Windows when their own fucking Linux products don’t work. I will go to the business I am a part of right now and let them know we should just hire you to make all of our financial and enterprise setup choices because you said so.

      • @[email protected]
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        27 months ago

        Do I sense some inner tensions due to frustration with using Microsoft’s sorry excuse for an OS?

    • @[email protected]
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      47 months ago

      And IT departments having a choice but forcing windows on users deserve to be burned at the stake.

      Not a small thing to rip all the wires out of the walls. Moving to an entirely new office-wide OS is a heavy lift.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 months ago

        But they don’t have to make any OS “office-wide”. All they have to do is

        1. move from a centralized micro-management of every workstation to a scenario where users can be provided a prepared workstation, but may configure one themselves
        2. transition to a security policy that assumes every single workstation is insecure, and regulate the network traffic to allow only those protocols that are required for the business, protecting each machine from the next (this would prevent so many major security incidents where a single machine gets compromised and then the whole network is affected)
        3. provide central infrastructure as open protocols - IMAP (or POP3/SMTP), HTTPS, FTPS + file & printer sharing as desired
        4. enforce open formats within the enterprise

        If necessary (assuming you have really irresponsible users), before authorizing users to set up their own machine, they can do a qualification check - or have the user’s line manager approve the “individual setup”.

        This would enable power users productivity and even if you don’t change anything for the vast amount of users, it would pay off rapidly. If you can move regular workstations away from the bloatware that is Windows, you would boost the overall productivity immensely.

        Specifically, what I am arguing against is:

        • locking users into an eco-system for any kind of service (e.g. MS Exchange servers, MS Active Directory)
        • outsourcing your IT competences to Microsoft (because let’s be real, that’s the actual reason IT departments go for Microsoft: corporate IT is outsourced as a service, this means lowest bidder, and the lowest bidder will happily take Microsoft’s offer to take care of any “real” issues and only provide a really, really dumb and helpless first level support)
        • having tons of services listening on every workstation that no one ever needs (just open your windows control panel (while it’s still around) and check out all the running services, of which you could disable > 50% if Windows would let you, without impacting the operational state of your machine) and each one presenting a vulnerable interface to the network
  • ɔiƚoxɘup
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    Is that kind of like how I talk to my team on the team’s app and send files and messages to them in the team in the teams app?

    They seriously need a new marketing group.

    • @[email protected]
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      97 months ago

      Teams in Teams is the naming I hate the most. Should have called them communities to match Viva Engage (Yammer) or just groups.

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      It’s like how they made the Xbox, then the Xbox one, then the Xbox one X, then the Xbox series X. (Yeah there were other options between/simultaneous, but this sequence is a nice clean illustration.)

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        57 months ago

        I mean, it’s internally consistent with the inbetween too, for the first three:

        They went Xbox, did a 360 to face the same direction, and re-released the Xbox 1

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            67 months ago

            Yup. Could’ve been a future where they went from Xbox 360 to Xbox 720 to Xbox 1080 and so on. They probably got scared that some of the audience would have thought that the Xbox 720 would only do 720p, then crapped the bed.