POP! OS has got it going on man.
That’s a trash can…
Air conditioner.
Has anyone ever used Xandros?
I have not sorry
Let’s all do the Lindows Rock! And now that I have dated myself, i’ll see myself out.
Ah, slackware.
Debian ftw
If Debian would’ve been my first contact with Linux distros, I don’t know if Linux would still be my main OS nowadays.
Same, I tried Menjaro and Ubuntu before I discovered Mint and actually stuck with Linux but Debian is a fantastic Distro too, I really like Fedora nowdays tho!
Debian is not bad per se, it’s just less accessible than other distros.
Debian is one of the best Distros ever and a pillar of the Linux world both for desktop and server users but I probably wouldn’t have managed to use it as my first distro ether.
Debian was my first contact and I loved it. I learned a lot through it.
yeah manjaro ain’t bad at all
As a Debian user, I agree. :)
Take away nostalgia and there’s little reason to pick Debian over other distros
Non of cannonical’s bullshit, more barebones then mint, the only distro i know of where you can almost seemlessly move from stable release to rolling release and back without re-installing, very big software support due to proximity to ubuntu, big repositories, stable is stable AF, you know it will keep being supported for many more years, much more flexible then the DE based distroa like ElementryOS and DeepinOS.
I dont use debian nowadays but its frickin great.
What? Its super stable, super easy to install, and makes it easy to run purely free software, and contributing to it contributes to all downstream distros
You can sorta say that about most popular distros though
Only sort of and not fully though.
A quick run through of some popular distros and reasons you might pick Debian instead of them
- Ubuntu - directed fully by a for profit corporation, might at any time go the way of RHEL (Linux Mint already has a mint spin based on Debian in case Canonical shits the bed). Narrower impact on downstream code bases than Debian (though only barely). Ships by default with non free blobs that you must opt out of.
- Linux mint - very narrow downstream impact. Not as flexible for how you can set it up as Debian (switching desktop environments is strictly unrecommended, and there’s no real reason to run it as a server)
- Fedora - relationship with RedHat is concerning, stability is not there at all
- RHEL-alikes (Rocky, Alma, etc) - uncertain future, though it does look like SUSE is going to help stabilize them. Downstream impact is relatively narrow, though you’d be surprised
- Arch - harder to install, not as suitable for production environments for stability reasons
- Manjaro - horrible stability (worse than arch), not as flexible (like linux mint), holds security patches back, almost no downstream impact
- Slack - harder to install, package management is annoying
- Kali - not for installing on your machine
- Gentoo - see arch
- MX Linux - a little more flexible than Mint, but otherwise, see mint
What are your thoughts on PopOS?
What about openSUSE???
openSUSE Tumbleweed is basically Arch with a Control Panel and an enterprise backing.
And automatic QA testing insuring a higher level of stability compared to arch. Good defaults with byrfs and snapper out of the box too.
I’m just now migrating to Debian after years and years mostly using Mint. I like apt and I want to get away from Ubuntu based distros. Why not go to the source? It’s definitely a little rough around the edges compared to Mint, and I may well end up using LMDE once they update to Bookworm.
I’m on LMDE right now. Its pretty great. My only complaint is with Cinnamon being 2 minor versions behind I don’t get meaningful touch gestures
That’s cool. I think I’m going to do it. I’m so comfortable in Mint having used it forever. It’s a bit of a chore configuring Debian to where I want it. I don’t use a touchscreen, so that Cinnamon issue you have wouldn’t bother me.
As the designer of the Debian logo I approve of this :-)
and they say we don’t have celebrities or important people on Lemmy
Maybe they are all just hiding in plain sight or something.
This is all the validation I need
No way, it’s like I just walked past a celebrity
Ha! Tell that to my kids!
Can you imagine being the one person who downvoted them?
The username does align, but that is not proof in itself and could explain the downvote. For the purposes of this thread, I believe!
Taking this opportunity to personally thank you for making a good logo, I absolutely love the Debian swirl! There are so many boring geometric or single-letter logos out there, the details and texture of the swirl is just so good.
Thank you. I really appreciate all the compliments!
🫡Thank you for your service
It’s an honor
Thank you
It’s a beautiful shade of red, and the intricate little details across the swirl. It’s a nice change to the bland, corporate logos we’re used to.
Wow I’m starstruck! Unsurprised to find the Debian gang here, but still very happy about it!
We are everywhere! So glad to see Debian going on strong after all these years.
I miss the days when I was more involved (even though I was always on the side lines)
I’ve admired this logo for 20 years. Debian has the best logo.
Thank you! That made my day!
Thanks for your work, it’s an awesome logo.
Simple and recognizable. Exactly what a logo is supposed to be. I think it’s the best logo in all of OSS. Basically the Nike swoosh of OSS, everyone else has to put the name of the software on the logo so people will know what it is. But you see the swirl, and you instantly know it’s Debian without any explanation.
Thanks for the kind words good fellow!
Thank you! I am very proud of it and that it’s attached to a project and a community that has stood the test of time.
It’s an honor to meet you
Likewise!
Wait, so the swirl wasn’t related to the “magic smoke” leaving electronics components when they get fried? Somebody lied to me.
It was tied to magic smoke! But a different of kind. The original requirements called for two logos, one for restricted use, and one for general use. The one that’s being used for general use now was meant to be only for restricted use. The original had a genie bottle from which the swirl came out, the concept was that something very powerful had been unleashed onto the world, free of charge, that stood to change the world. I was inspired by Neil Stephenson’s story The Hole Hawg of Operating Systems - Unix.
Here is a link to the article:
http://www.team.net/mjb/hawg.html
And here is a link to the two original designs:
Cheers!
You’re a legend!
Did you just sneeze with a red paintbrush in your hand and call it a day?
That’s cool. Got any proof of that?
That’s me mentioned at the bottom. You can contact me at the link!
Do firefox next. They need it.
Danny devito in a Sia wig, love it
That is clearly Ongo Gablogian, the famous art collector.
Charmed, I’m sure.
My first was red hat… Like 23 years ago
Me too. I think I probably still have the CDs it came on somewhere.
My first was Mint but i installed (as second boot) Open Suse to try it out, sticked with mint for the most part but i and some friends also run a custom Distro for a Server (its Debian Based)
Mint is just a Workhorse that never failed me. And once you settled you won’t adapt to something different easily.
I feel like pretty much every beginner has used Linux Mint. It’s like getting a handheld tour where you can ask anything and nobody will judge you.
I wonder if that’s changed much recently with relatively beginner friendly distros like EndeavorOS and Garuda.
Mint has so far been the only distro that had 100% of my laptop working. There are other systems that come close, even past 99, but there’s always that one little annoyance. Not with Mint.
It Just Works. I started with it and have never felt any need to switch.
Its just so simple. I see people complaining about getting Nvidia drivers to work on Linux, with Mint it takes like two clicks.
Yeah but tbh fuck Nvidia for their asshole behavior on that.
Yes, I’m an Nvidia user on Ubuntu (soon to switch to something else I think). The issue is the drivers on Wayland suck. Routine screen tearing with dual monitors (even if the second one is disabled in GNOME Settings). It also gives me issues with hardware acceleration for OBS captures. Had I been planning ahead I would’ve gone with AMD, but I got the 3070 for a great price during the shortages so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: to be clear, it’s fine and usable with one monitor, but still annoying. Switching to X11 gives me a whole different set of issues that just isn’t worth the tradeoffs. I still play games with no fuss with one monitor, it just sucks that I have framerate issues running OBS at 1080p30 capture with a 3070
And most importantly you have options. Once I had issues after updating the driver, but Mint makes it so easy to just go back.
I use Debian now, but that driver thing I am jealous of.Nvidia drivers are the exact reason why I switched back to Windows a decade ago (from Fedora 20 or something, can’t remember). Granted it was another era. But back then, it simply didn’t work. I never tried again
Is that a live action version of the Incredibles?
Yes, it is!
Oh no…^^
