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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
I got this AMAZING OPPORTUNITY in my inbox, because once your email appears on a single published paper you’re forever doomed to garbage like this (transcript at the end):
Highlights:
- Addresses me as Dr. I’m not a doctor. I checked, and apparently Dr. Muhhamad Imran Qureshi indeed has a PhD and is a lecturer at Teesside University International Business School (link to profile). His recent papers include a bunch of blockchain bullshit. Tesside University appears to be a legit UK university, although I’m not sure how legit the Business School is (or how legit any Business School can be, really).
- Tells us their research is so shit that using wisdom woodchippers actually increases their accuracy.
- One of the features is “publication support”, so this might be one of those scams where you pay an exorbitant fee to get “published” in some sketchy non-peer-reviewed journal.
- One of the covered AI tools is Microsoft Excel. If you were wondering if “AI” had any meaning.
- Also, by god, are there so many different ChatGPT clones now? I haven’t heard most of those names. I kinda hope they’re as AI as Excel is.
I’m not sure which would be worse, this being a scam, or them legit thinking this brings value to the world and believing they’re helping anyone.
transcript
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Small FYI, not a sneer or anything, you can stop reading if you don’t know what the godotengine is. But if you do and hear of the fork, you can just ignore the fork. (the people involved also seem to be rather iffy, one guy who went crazy after somebody mentioned they would like gay relationships in his game, and some maga conspiracy theory style coder. That is going by the 3 normal people the account follows (out of 5) who I assume are behind it).
Of course it could get worse.
Lol at them just removing the godot donation links/list of donors and just replacing it with their own. What a grift.
amazing work they’ve achieved so far though
yes, that’s the complete change set for the fork
oh and a Godot discord moderator turned out to be extremely into dropping n-words in chat
This is fucking hilarious. GIT is my favorite blockchain
I have no idea what set the drama off btw, I have not really looked into it (could it be that this mod you are talking about was the unofficial mod the godot communication was talking about? Or is that a different mod? And did the redot (wait, re.? please tell me it isn’t a reference to the reeeee thing) people really pick the side of the n-word mod?)
I did see that the guy who started redot basically only forked it and then went ‘any devs wanna take over this fork?’ Very I started the wiki, without even starting a wiki.
apparently godot posted something about supporting LGBT in games? can’t find the original. then Grummz posted ragebait about it and the chuds flooded their github and discord with fuckwittery
this is from like 5 min following links after reading your post
Looked at Grummz twitter, and looks like Notch is also getting involved. With friends like that.
Amazing how this new crop of outrage merchants who touched some game code in the past make Derek Smart look measured and well balanced.
Christ, it’s like Gamergate never ended
yes, that’s correct
found it: https://bsky.app/profile/gamingonlinux.com/post/3l5ca3blqgn2y
The idiots claimed using game engines was le wokisme and Godot took the piss, and Grummz ran with it
Holy shit that is amazing. The thinnest skins. All of this over the promise by God not to flood the world again.
wait, the “pre-built” engine these little shits are trying to bully a developer for using is fucking Unreal Engine 5?
all wokes want is to use a notoriously advanced and difficult game engine owned by a right-wing asshole and that’s how they’re gonna destroy gaming. with the engine that gigantic studios use because writing an engine from scratch is a fucking money pit that never ends and you have to have a good fucking reason to do it
also I’ve been trying to force my hands to not start a Bevy project ever since Tiny Glade (a beautiful, cozy 3D sandbox builder running on the Bevy engine) launched and Bevy is manual as hell (but fun to work with), so this is a good reminder that Godot is cool and I should finally learn it too
A common pattern of the angry anti-‘woke’ gamers is that they don’t know how games are made on any level, and they are kept, I think intentionally, in the dark by the people who are stirring the anti-‘woke’ craziness who should know better. And it is about every level, npc ai, engines, financial, external organization structures, community management, how prerelease footage is work in progress, etc etc. It is almost impressive how blind people are towards how their hobby creation works.
also, holy fuck the reply guys are a plague on that post. is bluesky normally like that, or is it the blast radius from the gamers deciding they have a problem?
dunno if i have an unusual amount of blocked posters, but the ones i can see are fine? bsky is largely le home of le wokisme
that’s probably it — logged out mastodon is probably just as bad. also the most aggressive reply guy’s take is “accounts for public projects should never block anyone and they should be required to debate the people yelling at them” which is, holy fuck, the most blockable thing I’ve ever seen
Godot is really fun to use and to develop in. They basically gamified documentation writing: they show you tooltips for your custom elements just like the classes provided by the engine with their excellent documentation. The engine has hot code reloading too. I have a puzzle game project that I’m working on now.
that sounds awesome! godot in general seems to be a very practical game engine, and at this point I definitely want to do my next little experimental game project in Godot (with Rust, if the tooling for that is at all ready for production) so I have experience with at least one normal object-oriented game engine that isn’t an old unreal engine or idtech under my belt
like I mentioned, I really like how Bevy works, but in its current state it isn’t really ready for rapid development. a bare Bevy project is literally just the ECS and system scheduler but with no runloop. the defaults get you a lot of basics like a runloop, good renderer, input handling, audio, and such, but from there you still have to decide how everything works in terms of game logic — even with third-party plugins for stuff like physics for example, you still have to write logic for what a collision means to each entity involved. I also don’t think bevy has a unified editor or live code reloading at all yet? so for each game you have to write an editor (which the engine helps with a little bit) and potentially a live reload implementation (which sounds like hell)
owned by a right-wing asshole
Wait, what? Can I get some info or even just the right search terms to force Google to give me useful info? I know he’s done the eye-roll-worthy “no politics in my artform” bullshit but if there’s more I’ve missed, I’m keen to know.
most of it’s on Twitter and therefore inaccessible to me, but Sweeney has a habit of falling all over himself to defend musk in nonsensical ways, and musk continuously returns the favor. the two of them boosting each other politically is something that keeps happening — a search for
tim sweeney muskor similar should surface more recent examples without flooding you with “no politics in art” results (though that’s a dogwhistle too, so…)Sweeney has a wider track record of saying slimy fash shit on Twitter — it’s why he’s a meme on mastodon — but like I said, none of that’s accessible to me anymore. it fucking sucks that both of the programmers I idolized as a naive kid turned out to be huge fucking assholes though
Ugh. Thanks, yeah that’s good enough for me without even opening xcancel. My search for “Tim Sweeney conservative” only dredged up his land conservation purchases and the “stop being so divisive” / “no politics in art” dogwhistles which had previously made me suspicious, but I had mostly forgotten about. I quit Twitter many years ago so I missed that whole knobslobbering saga and didn’t think to include
Muskafter skimming today’s shitty Google “search” results.Ah fuck, and Carmack too? Goddamn it. Twist the knife a little harder.
Fucking tech bros, always ruining tech.
Carmack has always struck me as the kind of cishet white GenX dude that gets more and more pissed that everything’s “political”, I just wanna code, man, why is everyone mad at me that he more or less inevitably falls into fascism. Sure games can be coded as “countercultural” but the genres that Doom and Quake represent are quasi-fascist already.
they’re already sniping at each other
GUYS GUYS THE LOGO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT
I want to pull quotes from that thread but it’s so satisfying in context to see the most toxic parts of a gaming community turn on each other
and dear god are those some ugly fucking logos. my favorite is the one that’s just Redot Engine with a ridiculously overbearing letter R (not gonna repost them here for obvious trademark reasons — I’ve got the feeling these fellas might not have that part figured out)
I was too busy poking fun at them and posted them here
The bikeshed should be RED!
Lol Edit (emp mine): “We need to remove the Godot branding from everything to differentiate this from Godot. For starters we can change the default IDE theme. I think a dark theme with red accents would make sense. Godot is associated with cooler colors, so warmer colors seem good.”
Of course black with red. The engine for edgy 17 year olds. (I wanted to make a joke about Razer gaming peripherals here, but looks like they switched mostly to rainbows and greens, damn wokes!)
I think a dark theme with red accents would make sense.
Oh HELL no that’s the same editor theme I’m using. How do I cast a spell to banish these people
It was some Adobe-style theme I downloaded a long time ago but I guess I’m using the anti-woke theme now
Apologies for crappy nitpicking on my part, but 4chan millennials really gotta learn to let go of impact font.
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god these people are fucking losers
from the godot discord:
godotclayjohn • 20h ago •
Obviously I can’t share access to the backend, but the numbers on the side are kept up to date. Last week we went down by about €5,000 when a corporate sponsorship expired.
Since Friday morning we lost €170/month in sponsorships but gained €1,610/month in new sponsorships. In terms of numbers of people: 10 people have cancelled their donations so far and 74 new people have signed up.
go woke, go 1400 EUR ahead and lose a pile of shitheads you never wanted
the chuds have done their usual thing of throwing themselves on the ground and acting extremely injured by being blocked for violating the CoC of an open source project (via Liam at GamingOnLinux):
what’s fucked is this is the exact same playbook as NixOS and Python, though this time Godot doesn’t seem to be taking any shit and that seems to be preventing those tactics from working. weird how easy it is to weather shit like this when you have a fucking spine and aren’t trying to retain fascist assholes
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Twitter posts by Rémi Verschelde (@Akien): I see misunderstanding around Godot blocking some users on its GitHub organization.
- We’ve blocked 5 accounts so far
- All opening issues with slurs, harassing contributors (breaching Godot’s CoC and GH’s ToS)
- Blocking users does NOT prevent download of the engine or source
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Blocking users doesn’t even prevent them from reading issues and PRs, just interacting with them. You can read and download anything from a GitHub repository as an anonymous (not logged in) user. *git clone https://github.com/godotengine/godot… works for anyone with an Internet connection.
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Just adding as some asked - if you want to quote this to people who still believe we’re mass blocking people on GitHub and cutting them off their tech stack, feel free to grab a screenshot. I locked my account while the heat dies down, so you can’t easily link those tweets.
ahahaha that’s amazing
it also pushed me to start learning Godot since its community seems awesome, and that’s definitely showing through on the docs so far — they go into so much depth on why Godot’s designed like it is, and what specifically it’s good for
I’ve only just started, but it’s reminding me very positively of what Unreal Engine was for a brief period of time: a runtime for a powerful domain-specific scripting language that could be extended by native code when needed, targeting indie devs
unfortunately Tim Sweeney kind of sucks at designing languages (though he used to do it a lot) so UnrealScript was a real fucking mess, and UE never really captured the indie market (cause you had to pay a fuckload for the privilege of writing native code) so UnrealScript got excised and the engine became “free” (as in free timeshare) and entirely refocused on developers pumping out AAA garbage and other whales (and, more charitably, anyone who needs an engine that can do state of the art graphics)
Godot, so far, to me feels kind of like an Unreal Engine that didn’t fuck up with the indie market and also isn’t closed source greedware
also apparently there’s a new Unreal scripting language? it’s got the Haskell guy behind it and it’s functional which is cool, but it’s also already bathed in horseshit:
Verse is the new scripting language for Unreal Engine, first implemented in Fortnite.[11] Simon Peyton Jones, known for his contributions to the Haskell programming language, joined Epic Games in December 2021 as Engineering Fellow to work on Verse with his long-time colleague Lennart Augustsson and others.[12] Conceived by Sweeney,[13] it was officially presented at Haskell eXchange in December 2022 as an open source functional-logic language for the metaverse.[14] A research paper, titled The Verse Calculus: a Core Calculus for Functional Logic Programming, was also published.[15]
The language was eventually launched in March 2023 as part of the release of the Unreal Editor for Fortnite (UEFN) at the Game Developers Conference, with plans to be available to all Unreal Engine users by 2025.[11]
so I guess Fortnite modders can weigh in on how good Haskell for Gaming is
e: also, imagine if any of these pro gamers knew Godot is the Cassette Beasts and Cruelty Squad engine
I’m just thinking about all the reply guys that come here defending autoplag, specifically with this idea:
“GPT is great when I want to turn a list of bullet points into an eloquent email”
Hey, you butts, just send the bullet points! What are you, a high schooler? Nobody has time for essays, much less autoplagged slop.
No no no it’s fine! You get the word shuffler to deshuffle the—eloquently—shuffled paragraphs back into nice and tidy bullet points. And I have an idea! You could get an LLM to add metadata to the email to preserve the original bullet points, so the recipient LLM has extra interpolation room to choose to ignore the original list, but keep the—much more correct and eloquent, and with much better emphasis—hallucinated ones.
a user called “crypto-bitcoin” raises an issue with the World Wide Web Consortium’s Accessibility List
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Yikes. Could be a troll (I hope it’s a troll)a lost not very computer literate dude who just got scammed i guess
Ex-headliners Evergreen Terrace: “Even after they offered to pull Kyle from the event, we discovered several associated entities that we simply do not agree with”
the new headliner will be uh a Slipknot covers band
organisers: “We have been silent. But we are prepping. The liberal mob attempted to destroy Shell Shock. But we will not allow it. This is now about more than a concert. This is a war of ideology.” yeah you have a great show guys
I wish them a merry cable grounding fault and happy earth buzz to all
By “liberal mob” he means “people who asked for their money back and aren’t coming anymore”
The Bookseller tried to hawk AI to its readerbase and they are not having it - they’re getting ratioed hard:
A medium nation’s worth of electricity!
(Another post so soon? Another post so soon.)
“Gen AI competes with its training data, exhibit 1,764”:
Also got a quick sidenote, which spawned from seeing this:
This is pure gut feeling, but I suspect that “AI training” has become synonymous with “art theft/copyright infringement” in the public consciousness.
Between AI bros publicly scraping against people’s wishes (Exhibit A, Exhibit B, Exhibit C), the large-scale theft of data which went to produce these LLMs’ datasets, and the general perception that working in AI means you support theft (Exhibit A, Exhibit B), I wouldn’t blame Joe Public for treating AI as inherently infringing.
I researched cool topics using ChatGPT, Claude, Google
That’s not what research means, you embossed carbuncle.
I linked NotebookLM to the Wikipedia entry of each topic and generated the podcast audio
It’s fucking James Somerton with extra steps!
“curated”
it shouldn’t surprise me that the dipshit who was massively involved in “solving language” doesn’t understand the meaning of words, but grrrrr
(and I say that as an armchair linguist who understands that language is as people use it (fuck prescriptivism))
dipshit who was massively involved in “solving language”
“In the what now?”, he said, voice trembling with a mixture of horror and excitement
2015 - I was a research scientist and a founding member at OpenAI.
proudly displayed on his blog timeline
Wait, did OpenAI claim somewhere they will “solve language”?
no, that’s a personal extrapolation/framing characterising some of the shit I’ve seen from these morons
(they engaged with very few linguists in the making of their beloved Large Language Models, instead believing they can just data-bruteforce it; this plan gone as well as has been observed)
The horror. Replacing the joy of looking into something and making your findings available in your own style to others replaced by autogenerated slop. And soon this will be all over the place, we will look back on the past period of low effort clickbait with nostalgia.
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jesus christ, as if “podcasts” consisting of random idiots regurgitating wikipedia weren’t bad enough as it is
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can’t tell if serious
I was thinking this
Aw man, now that’s a blast from the past!
with all the arch and OS fuckery, I’ve been starting to ponder what it’ll take to run games in coming years
and all the shit locked in on steam…
it’s like he’s purposefully trying to think as little as possible
thinking needs many strawberry reasoning tokens! maybe these grifters just aren’t as rich as they portray
……pwahahahaha
“if only you know” in the purest form I’ve seen all week
Back in my day, you had to create your own kooky “evidence” for conspiracies.
New piece from Ars Technica: Meta smart glasses can be used to dox anyone in seconds, study finds:
Two Harvard students recently revealed that it’s possible to combine Meta smart glasses with face image search technology to “reveal anyone’s personal details,” including their name, address, and phone number, “just from looking at them.”
In a Google document, AnhPhu Nguyen and Caine Ardayfio explained how they linked a pair of Meta Ray Bans 2 to an invasive face search engine called PimEyes to help identify strangers by cross-searching their information on various people-search databases. They then used a large language model (LLM) to rapidly combine all that data, making it possible to dox someone in a glance or surface information to scam someone in seconds—or other nefarious uses, such as "some dude could just find some girl’s home address on the train and just follow them home,” Nguyen told 404 Media.
This is all possible thanks to recent progress with LLMs, the students said.
Putting my off-the-cuff thoughts on this:
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Right off the bat, I’m pretty confident AR/smart glasses will end up dead on arrival - I’m no expert in marketing/PR, but I’m pretty sure “our product helped someone dox innocent people” is the kind of Dasani-level disaster which pretty much guarantees your product will crash and burn.
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I suspect we’re gonna see video of someone getting punched for wearing smart glasses - this story’s given the public a first impression of smart glasses that boils down to “this person’s a creep”, and its a lot easier to physically assault someone wearing smart glasses than some random LLM
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This is a gut feeling I’ve had since Baldur talked about AI’s public image nearly three months ago, but this gives me further reason to expect the public are gonna be outright hostile to the tech industry once the AI bubble pops.
100%. This criti-hype is going to blow up in their faces. “They” being, in order:
- AnhPhu Nguyen and Caine Ardayfio
- Meta
- PimEyes
In addition to your analysis, I’d like to point out that this reads just like the Rabbit R1, but for stalkers who also have a deep craving to look like an insufferable dork. This whole thing could be, and already is, an app – if someone needs this kind of evil bullshit, clearview.ai been around forever.
I also now wonder how illegal this could be in various jurisdictions. I know that aiming security cams at public roads is a bit frowned upon here in .nl for example
Thank you for the Dasani video, fucking amazing.
What the hell does “spunk” mean in the US??
I’m not USAian but I’d bet both “jizz” and “gusto”, depending on context
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r/SubredditDrama’s watching shit go down in r/EffectiveAltruism, and there’s a lotta sneers going on
I’m not in support of Effective Altruism as an organization, I just understand what it’s like to get caught up in fear and worry over if what you’re doing and donating is actually helping. I donate to a variety of causes whenever I have the extra money, and sometimes it can be really difficult to assess which cause needs your money more. Due to this, I absolutely understand how innocent people get caught up in EA in a desire to do the maximum amount of good for the world. However, EA as an organization is incredibly shady. u/Evinceo provided this great article: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-altruism-is-a-welter-of-fraud-lies-exploitation-and-eugenic-fantasies/
Man, that hits close to home. It’s a hard sell to sneer at people ostensibly doing their best to do good. Any kind of altruism, particularly one ostensibly focused on at least trying to be effective, feels like a such a rare treat that I feel like the worst kind of buzzkill letting newcomers know what cynical doomer ass death obsessed sex cult (and not even in a kinkily cool way*) a big chunk of EA and other TESCRL are. I can relate to them in so many ways, especially remembering what my teenage self was like, but at the same time it’s weirdly hard to articulate how immature those opinions (some of which) I used to, and they continue to hold, are**.
Anyway, charity is a symptom of the failure of society. Luxury is a human right. Profit is exploitation. Nobody gets a billion dollars without mass homicide.
* but unfortunately often in an uncool, very rapey way
** not all of them, there are levels of cringe I managed to avoid even in my teenage yearsIt is worth mentioning that this is the question that catalysed the SRD post:
Most Effective Aid to Gaza?
New post from Ed Zitron just dropped which goes into a lotta detail on OpenAI’s finances around the time the deal was closing.
I’ve already cracked one Kendrick reference, so fuck it:
Given the proliferation of libertarians in SV, Ed probably wouldn’t even need to change the “A-minor” line is all I’m saying.
My current hyperfixation is Ecosia, maker of “the greenest search engine” (already problematic) implementing a wrapped-chatgpt chat bot and saying it has a “green mode” which is not some kind of solar-powered, ethically-sound, generative AI, but rather an instructive prompt to only give answers relating to sustainable business models etc etc.
See my thread here https://xcancel.com/fasterandworse/status/1837831731577000320
I’m starting to reach out to them wherever I can because for some reason this one is keeping me up at night.
I have sent an email to their press enquiries contact asking for more information, but I don’t know if I have the “press” clout to warrant a response (I know I don’t)
That is a good username. Also very scummy business practices. I have a quite big dislike for people who pull that kind of shit.
Thanks! I thought it shows up on here too. Anyway, you can find me on all the places with that username
They’re from Germany and made the rounds on the news here a few years back. They’re famous for basically donating all their profits to ecological projects, mostly for planting trees. These projects are publicly visible and auditable, so this at least isn’t bullshit.
Under the hood they’re just another Bing wrapper (like DuckDuckGo).
I actually kinda liked the project until they started adding a chatbot some months back. It was just such a weird decision because it has no benefits and is actively against their mission. Their reason for adding it was “user demand” which is the same bullshit Proton spewed and I don’t believe it.
This green mode crap sounds really whack, lol. So I really wonder what’s up with that. I gotta admit that I thought they were really in it because they believed in their ecological idea (or at least their marketing did a great job convincing me) so this feels super weird.
I got a downvote for some reason…
Some people just want to watch the world burn
It seems they undid it. Maybe Ecosia are on to me
ah, sweet, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension:
(This would’ve been more shocking to me in 2023, but after over a year in this bubble I have stopped expecting anything resembling basic human decency from those who work in AI)
Not a lawyer, but wouldn’t that be something her estate could kick up some legal dust about? That’s two dozen kind of fucked up.
CEO of cloudflare says he’ll donate the bandwidth for Wordpress dot org to shut mullenweg up https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/1841154152006627663
Cloudflare is such a weird company in various ways. Saying loudly that they can’t judge groups when people ask them not to support the neo-nazis, harassers and worse (they have moved on this under pressure, but it takes a lot of pressure). But then they do this.
I guess I should be clear this is not an endorsement of cloudflare, just fun to see dickheads being dickheads to each other
I didn’t take it as such, I just was again a bit confused by the actions cloudflare takes. Assume it is some weird technolibertarian thing.
And probably also an opportunity to dunk on Mullenweg for free PR
also it gives them even more network control and data, something entirely beneficial to them
Wasn’t the first time he shut down 8chan (or was it Kiwifarms? Something along the lines), he immediately came out to say “It’s really bad that I have the power to take down a website of shitheads.” Just seemed like everything about his ideology is confused.
There’s nothing confused about his ideology. Anything to do with porn or sex work will get kicked to the curb without a second thought, but fascists and bigots will be defended up to the point where they try to restart sectarian violence in Ireland (which was the final act of kiwi farms, from recollection. Presumably even the ceo couldn’t defend them at that point, though I bet he tried).
Dude doesn’t give a shit about free speech, or lament the power he’s ended up with. He just really loves fascism.
Anything to do with porn or sex work will get kicked to the curb without a second thought
can’t say why but I can say this is not completely/100% true; however
but fascists and bigots will be defended up to the point where they try to restart sectarian violence
yup
please don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to bat for cloudflare. the company is detestable and problematic in extremely many dimensions
in this particular case and wrt the dude himself, it indeed appears to be much about the power. in the case of the commentary FredFig references, I suspect that came through a lens of “it is bad that I can do this [where “this” is “acquiesce to societal pressure to silence people I don’t wish to silence”]”. didn’t see the comment at the time though, so I have no idea if it was dogwhistled or what at the time
Nobody told him to make his CDN so dominant in the market. He kinda chose to have this power. If you think Cloudflare’s services are some kind of a universal inalienable right, make them free, you pussy. Be a philantropist, share that sweet bandwidth with the poor. Gimme a /24, coward. Why are you taking money for a basic necessity, you monster?
Y’all can thank me for taking down 8ch and KF, because I also do not run hosting infrastructure for either of them. Same goes to all of you who do not run a CDN that welcomes nazi websites. Thank you for your service.
