Donald Trump continues to suck up to the Russian president.

If Ukraine were to suddenly surrender to Russia, everything would be “much better,” at least according to Donald Trump.

During an afternoon press conference Wednesday, the Republican presidential nominee urged the Eastern European nation to submit to the foreign power, claiming that any deal, no matter how dismal for Ukraine’s freedom, would have been better than the current state of affairs.

“Ukraine is gone. It’s not Ukraine anymore. You can never replace those cities and towns, and you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people,” Trump said. “Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.


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  • @[email protected]
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    89 months ago

    This is the art of the deal: give them everything they want, say it was the plan all along, and then brag how you won the negotiation.

  • @[email protected]
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    249 months ago

    Who really believes Russia will stop at their current claims? Once they achieve their current goals, they’ll attack for more, and more, and more. The killing doesn’t stop.

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        9 months ago

        “Trump, I think that dictator is an imperialist! His Siberia is colonised, his Chechnya is colonised, and I’m pretty sure that Belarus is colonised!”

        “A dictator who has lots of colonies is less likely to invade countries than a dictator whose colony supplies are low”

  • Nougat
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    209 months ago

    Of course the perennial misbehaver thinks that misbehavior should be rewarded.

  • @[email protected]
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    49 months ago

    I keep upgrading what kind of leverage putin has on dolt45. I’m now pretty sure trump must have choked his male prostitute of the night to death on camera.

    • themadcodger
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      49 months ago

      You really think he has the strength to choke someone to death with those tiny hands?

      Smothered to death, maybe.

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    9 months ago

    Appeasement doesn’t work. Appeasement never works. It didn’t work with Hitler and it won’t work with Put-ler. This piece of shit is a useful idiot and I’m saddened that quite a few people today lap this shit up and see this as the best path forward. Ukraine may be scarred now but they can and will rebuild when they win this war. Slava Ukraini

    • @[email protected]
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      109 months ago

      a useful idiot

      Useful idiot has specific meaning. It is someone who is so dumb that you can convince him to betray his country for free and he does believe he is doing right thing.

      I am pretty sure this piece of shit is getting paid.

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        39 months ago

        Interesting. I learned something new today. Thanks for sharing! And no doubt he’s been bought/getting paid. Everything about him screams Russian asset.

      • @[email protected]
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        39 months ago

        Oh there’s definitely kompromat on him. He’s done terrible things to children on video I’m sure. He owes dark money to dangerous people.

        • @[email protected]
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          39 months ago

          You don’t need to subscribe to wild theories to understand this.

          He was listed in the Epstein flight logs seven times.

          He built condos for Russian oligarchs to launder money.

    • @[email protected]
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      299 months ago

      Appeasement can work, just not in the obvious way. It’s like throwing steaks at a pack of hungry wolves. It won’t slow them for long, but it might give you enough time to find the shells, and load the shotgun.

      What Trump is doing doesn’t even rise to the level of appeasement. He’s just begging like a whipped dog to his master.

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        119 months ago

        To be clear, even if it was appeasement, it still would accomplish nothing since the US does not need to buy time to build up their military.

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          Ehhh, recruitment levels have been plummeting. I’m not saying we couldn’t absolutely kick Russia’s shit in with what we currently have, and take out half of Iran’s Navy again, while we are at it for shits and giggles. We could have some issues if WWIII were to happen, at least for a couple of months for the draft to catch up.

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        69 months ago

        That’s a damn good analogy. Appease for long enough to grab a big stick. My original thought on Dementia Don saying just “give Putin what he wants” felt to me like a “if we do this now he won’t ask for more later and the war will stop” kinda thing. As I read it now I’m willing to bet you’re more correct. There is no nuance here. The orange cheeto is angling for praise from his master and dictators the world over. How fucking dumb

        • @[email protected]
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          29 months ago

          Appease for long enough to grab a big stick.

          Neville Chamberlain got a bad rap from history for doing exactly this. He gave Hitler bits of what he wanted while making sure Britain had enough modern fighters (Hurricanes and Spitfires) to fend off the Luftwaffe when war inevitably did break out.

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    819 months ago

    I know a Ukrainan born US citizen with a significant amount of family still living in Ukraine who is also a Trump supporter. He hates Russia and wants Ukraine to maintain independence. I asked him a couple of weeks ago what he thought would happen to Ukraine if Trump was reelected and he said Ukraine would probably be left to fend for themselves. This statement did not come with remorse or condemnation, it was delivered in the same way you would describe the winner of a sporting event. A simple statement of fact.

    I don’t know how to respond to that kind of thinking. If the understanding that your vote might lead to the death of your family members doesn’t break through the political polarization in this country and make you reconsider then I don’t think anything will.

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      49 months ago

      I was going to say that maybe the concept was too abstract for him, so the thought of losing family members to war didn’t even cross his mind. It could never happen to him, right?

      But then again, Ukraine has been at war with Russia for some time now. Surely he knows people who have perished in the war?

      Did he give you a reason why he supports Trump? Is it maybe a misogyny thing?

      • @[email protected]
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        69 months ago

        I’ve known this guy for a long time. He’s grown up in rural America so he has all the same reasons for supporting Trump as those people typically do with the added oddity of being more impacted by the negative outcomes of those policies. Guns, immigration, general economic stuff. At least those are the reasons they’ll state publicly.

        It seems more like an in-group thing than anything else to me. I would have expected some sort of expression of disagreement with Trump on this particular issue but he says he thinks Democrats will do the same thing despite all evidence to the contrary. That is how he’s chosen to rationalize the situation.

    • knightly the Sneptaur
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      639 months ago

      I’m trans, and I’m not the only one in my family.

      My Dad claims he votes Republican for tax purposes.

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        So to him the potential to possibly pay less taxes is more important than his own child’s safety and right to exist.

        And that’s not even mentioning that there is like a 99.98% chance that nothing Trump does with respect to taxes will ever affect him (positively) in any way.

        • @[email protected]
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          69 months ago

          Yeah that’s a thing trans people are unfortunately used to as a community. I’m lucky to not be in such a situation, my ex father votes republican for all the reasons

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    449 months ago

    Fuck that, but also notice “Ukraine is not Ukraine anymore”. This is a dangerous part of propaganda.

    People will rage against the headline and who knows if he will eventually back track on that, but he already sold the underlying message without any serious risk of backlash.