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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
check out this jumpscare suckerpunch mashup
some of the details are so on point I’m almost left pointing and mouthing “art”
Is this supposed to be a parody or something? If so, why is this being done at the direction of the FBI? Or is that also part of the parody? If so I didn’t know you could use the FBI logo for that purpose.
linked post details it, but tldr sting setup
First-ever criminal charges against financial services firms for market manipulation and “wash trading” in the cryptocurrency industry
Cryptocurrency is a 15-year old industry built mostly on market manipulation and wash trading and now we’re seeing the first charges for it? Man, back in the day they told me doing crime was illegal.
Deflationary
With every transaction supply shrinks by burning a percentage of reflections to the burn wallet
Turns out libertarians actually love taxes, but only if instead of spending the tax money on anything, it’s burned to waste.
Further proof that at least some of these people don’t have a problem with losing money, they have a problem with other people receiving it.
Fraudster: “the “objective on the secondary markets” is to find “other buyers from the community, people you don’t know about or don’t care about” because “we have to make [the other buyers] lose money in order to make profit.””
Online art school Schoolism publicly sneers at AI art, gets standing ovation
And now, a quick sidenote:
This is gut instinct, but I’m starting to get the feeling this AI bubble’s gonna destroy the concept of artificial intelligence as we know it.
Mainly because of the slop-nami and the AI industry’s repeated failures to solve hallucinations - both of those, I feel, have built an image of AI as inherently incapable of humanlike intelligence/creativity (let alone Superintelligencetm), no matter how many server farms you build or oceans of water you boil.
Additionally, I suspect that working on/with AI, or supporting it in any capacity, is becoming increasingly viewed as a major red flag - a “tech asshole signifier” to quote Baldur Bjarnason for the bajillionth time.
For a specific example, the major controversy that swirled around “Scooby Doo, Where Are You? In… SPRINGTRAPPED!” over its use of AI voices would be my pick.
Eagan Tilghman, the man behind the
slaughteranimation, may have been a random indie animator, who made Springtrapped on a shoestring budget and with zero intention of making even a cent off it, but all those mitigating circumstances didn’t save the poor bastard from getting raked over the coals anyway. If that isn’t a bad sign for the future of AI as a concept, I don’t know what is.I think a couple of people noted it at the start, but this is truly a paradigm shift.
We’ve had so many science fiction stories, works, derivatives, musing about AI in so many ways, what if it were malevolent, what if it rebelled, what if it took all jobs… But I don’t think our collective consciousness was aware of the “what if it was just utterly stupid and incompetent” possibility.
I don’t think our collective consciousness was aware of the “what if it was just utterly stupid and incompetent” possibility.
Its a possibility which doesn’t make for good sci-fi (unless you’re writing an outright dystopia (e.g. Paranoia)), so sci-fi writers were unlikely to touch it.
The tech industry had enjoyed a lengthy period of unvarnished success and conformist press up to this point, so Joe Public probably wasn’t gonna entertain the idea that this shiny new tech could drop the ball until they saw something like the glue pizza sprawl.
And the tech press isn’t gonna push back against AI, for obvious reasons.
So, I’m not shocked this revelation completely blindsided the public.
I think a couple of people noted it at the start, but this is truly a paradigm shift.
Yeah, this is very much a paradigm shift - I don’t know how wide-ranging the consequences will be, but I expect we’re in for one hell of a ride.
Paranoia is the only one I can think of that’s actually pretty well on the money because the dystopian elements come from the fact that the wildly incompetent friend computer has been given total power despite everyone on some level knowing that fact, even if they can’t admit it (anymore) without being terminated. The secret societies all think they can work the situation to their advantage and it provides a convenient scapegoat for terrible things they probably want to do anyways.
Alan Moore wrote a comic book story about AI about 10 years ago that parodied rationalist ideas about AI and it still holds up pretty well. Sadly the whole thing isn’t behind that link - I saw it on Twitter and can’t find it now.
How do I find product-market fit for my terminators?
Google finally did it, they made Chrome completely unusable
Today’s entry in the wordpress saga: seizing plugins from devs. The author of this one appears to be affiliated with wpengine, which possibly signals more events like this in the future.
We have been made aware that the Advanced Custom Fields plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress dot org.
A plugin under active development has never been unilaterally and forcibly taken away from its creator without consent in the 21 year history of WordPress.
More details here: https://furry.engineer/@cendyne/113296240801713427
maybe also link in the wp/mullenweg thread
Ahh, looks like the important stuff was already there. I could have sworn I checked, but apparently not!
Has wordpress matt had a stroke or what? This is off-the-wall.
25071 + Oct 12 GitHub ( 20K) Your free GitHub Copilot access is ending soon
lol
guess how soon?
3 days.
oooh how I’m looking forward to frog-boiler api adjustment pricing season, there’s going to be so much cope
Any mild pushback to the claims of LLM companies sure bring out the promptfondlers on lobste.rs
https://lobste.rs/s/qcppwf/llms_don_t_do_formal_reasoning_is_huge
Plenty of agreement, but also a lot of “what is reasoning, really” and “humans are dumb too, so it’s not so surprisingly GenAIs are too!”. This is sure a solid foundation for multi-billion startups, yes sirree.
it’s kind of comforting that the current attitude towards generative AI in some tech spaces is “of course it can’t do cognition and it isn’t really good for anything, who said it was” which is of course rich from the exact same posters who were breathlessly advertising for the tech as revolutionary both online and at work as recently as a couple of weeks ago (and a lot of them still hedge it with “but it might be useful in the near future”). the comfort is it feels like that attitude comes from deep embarrassment, like how the orange site started claiming it is and always was skeptical of crypto once the technology got irrevocably associated with scams and gambling and a lot of the easy money left
I was watching a h0ffman stream the other day when someone happened to bring up autoplag in some context. didn’t see the asking context, but h0ffman’s answer warmed my heart. paraphrased: “what would you want to use that for? you wouldn’t steal a mod, why would you want to use a prompt? that stole from artists. fuck that shit.”
(h0ffman’s one of the names in the demoscene, often plays sets at compos, does some of his own demos, etc)
yeah, there’s a stench of desperation from the defenders
of course, as with crypto, there are uses (in the case of crypto , nothing legitimate). And it will be going to be a fallback for fondlers to point them out (for example, I believe that auto-generated audiobooks are viable, if they’re generated from actual books)
these chuds lack self awareness and they never realise that by moving the goalposts on brain stuff they are admitting their own idiocy.
neil turkewitz coming in with a wry comment about AI’s legal issues:
And, because this is becoming so common, another sidenote from me:
With the large-scale art theft that gen-AI has become thoroughly known for, how the AI slop it generates has frequently directly competed with its original work (Exhibit A), the solid legal case for treating the AI industry’s Biblical-scale theft as copyright infringement and the bevvy of lawsuits that can and will end in legal bloodbaths, I fully expect this bubble will end up strengthening copyright law a fair bit, as artists and megacorps alike endeavor to prevent something like this ever happening again.
Precisely how, I’m not sure, but to take a shot in the dark I suspect that fair use is probably gonna take a pounding.
Hey ChatGPT, write a novel titled OpenAI Gets Pounded In the Ass by Pterodactyl Lawyers, in the style of Chuck Tingle.
To my mind, the cover of “researchers” using the public internet to seed products commercialized by OpenAI and friends is the biggest betrayal of fair use in recent memory. The big companies cynically exploited the research exception to fair use and possibly destroyed in the future.
PC Gamer put out a pro-AI piece recently - unsurprisingly, Twitter tore it apart pretty publicly:
I could only find one positive response in the replies, and that one is getting torn to shreds as well:
I did also find a quote-tweet calling the current AI bubble an “anti-art period of time”, which has been doing pretty damn well:
Against my better judgment, I’m whipping out another sidenote:
With the general flood of AI slop on the Internet (a slop-nami as I’ve taken to calling it), and the quasi-realistic style most of it takes, I expect we’re gonna see photorealistic art/visuals take a major decline in popularity/cultural cachet, with an attendant boom in abstract/surreal/stylised visuals
On the popularity front, any artist producing something photorealistic will struggle to avoid blending in with the slop-nami, whilst more overtly stylised pieces stand out all the more starkly.
On the “cultural cachet” front, I can see photorealistic visuals becoming seen as a form of “techno-kitsch” - a form of “anti-art” which suggests a lack of artistic vision/direction on its creators’ part, if not a total lack of artistic merit.
Why is it always bioshock girl 😭
Another upcoming train wreck to add to your busy schedule: O’Reilly (the tech book publisher) is apparently going to be doing ai-translated versions of past works. Not everyone is entirely happy about this. I wonder how much human oversight will be involved in the process.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/parisba_publications-activity-7249244992496361472-4pLj
translate technically fiddly instructions of the type where people have trouble spotting mistakes, with patterned noise generators. what could go wrong
This week’s Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000 really hit home. It’s about a startup trying to sell “The AI Scientist.” It even does reviews!
Can “AI” do your science for you? Should it be your co-author? Or, as one company asks, boldly and breathlessly, “Can we automate the entire process of research itself?”
Major scientific journals have banned the use of tools like ChatGPT in the writing of research papers. But people keep trying to make “AI Scientists” a thing. Just ask your chatbot for some research questions, or have it synthesize some human subjects to save you time on surveys.
Alex and Emily explain why so-called “fully automated, open-ended scientific discovery” can’t live up to the grandiose promises of tech companies. Plus, an update on their forthcoming book!
https://peertube.dair-institute.org/w/s1Eyp5R4cdSZVm3y2q58xq
In other news, an AI booster got publicly humilitated after prompting complete garbage and mistaking it for 8-bit animation:
And now, another sidenote, because I really like them apparently:
This is gut instinct like my previous sidenote, but I suspect that this AI bubble will cause the tech industry (if not tech as a whole) to be viewed as fundamentally hostile to artists and fundamentally lacking in art skills/creativity, if not outright hostile to artists and incapable of making (or even understanding) art.
Beyond the slop-nami flooding the Internet with soulless shit whose creation was directly because of tech companies like OpenAI, its also given us shit like:
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Google’s unholy ‘Dear Sydney’ ad, and the nuclear backlash it got.
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Apple crushing human creativity for personal gain and being forced to apologise for it
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Mira Murati openly shitting on artists as gen-AI steals their artwork and destroys their livelihoods
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Gen-AI boosters producing complete shit and calling it gold (with Proper Prompter and Luma Labs providing excellent examples)
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And so much goddamn more, most of which I’ve likely forgotten
This response from her. Lol. Lmao.
can you and all your anti-ai bots just block me? we get it, you hate ai art
What a misunderstood wee lil smol bean, waah
anti-ai bots
there’s nothing I hate more than when people who hate chatbots flood me with chatbots
e: please stop sending soldiers from your anti-war militia to fight me
actually that sounds like a metal gear plot point I’d overexplain while intoxicated
Honestly I would love to hear someone try to explain the Metal Gear story while drunk.
…No no no you see the Patriots are actually the AI reconstitutions of Plasma Snake’s old boy scout troop from the like the 80s, Shadow Moses, and they really liked (hic) Gundam and then…
…But see, they actually didn’t even like all the wars and stuff even though they were making all kinds of money and explosions, so Raiden - oh and he’s a robot now but it’s cool he gets a dog - has to figure out what’s going on but then it’s all “The good old days after 9/11” ha ha ha…
“games explained badly, the podcast” sounds like it has phenomenal potential for pissing off just about the entire gamersphere
I’m down
I’m so down for this I might unbury my good microphone
“and then Dick Cheney appears and that’s the final boss and he beats your ass. no, not a character based off of Dick Cheney…”
Even in the still image that dog’s legs look like a first draft Minecraft centipede.
This is gut instinct like my previous sidenote, but I suspect that this AI bubble will cause the tech industry (if not tech as a whole) to be viewed as fundamentally hostile to artists and fundamentally lacking in art skills/creativity, if not outright hostile to artists and incapable of making (or even understanding) art.
As a programmer who likes to see himself more adjacent to artists (and not only because I only draw stuff — badly — and write stuff — terribly — as a hobby, but also because I hold the belief that creating something with code can be seen as artistic too) this whole attitude which has been plaguing the tech industry for — let’s be real here — the last 15 years at least but probably much longer makes me irrationally angry. Even the parts of the industry where creativity and artistry should play a larger role, like game dev, have been completely fucked over by this idea that everything is about efficiency and productivity. You wanna be successful? You need to be productive all the time, 24/7, and now there’s tools that help you with that, and these tools are now fucking AI-powered! Because everything is a tool for out lord and savior productivity.
(I really should get to this toxic productivity write-up I’ve been meaning to do for a year now,)
(I really should get to this toxic productivity write-up I’ve been meaning to do for a year now,)
Go for it, Mii - I’d be happy to read it.
Just ignore the inconsistent theming, blurry cars, people phasing in and out of existence, nonsense traffic signals, unnatural leaf rustling, the car driving on the wrong(?) side of the road and about to plow into a tree, the weirdly oversized tree, the tree missing a trunk, the nonsense traffic paint, the shoddy textures, and the fact that the scene is entirely derivative and no one feels any joy from watching it.
Phew
If you ignore all that it could be the end of animators!!
I was focusing more on the fact Justine failed to recognise Minimax had failed at its only job (giving her…whatever that anim is…instead of something actually 8-bit), but yeah all that sucks too
Why the fuck is there a gigantic 1000-year-old oak blocking the entire pavement. Also why is that one in autumn colors.
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And on the subject of AI: strava is adding ai analytics. The press release is pretty waffly, as it would appear that they’d decided to add ai before actually working out what they’d do with it so, uh, it’ll help analyse the reams of fairly useless statistics that strava computes about you and, um, help celebrate your milestones?
yet another way to write shitty python
Definitely saw an ad today for an AI-powered workout machine. It looks like if Bowflex was made by Tesla and promises to “optimize your workout with every rep” or some such nonsense.
I tried to remember the name of it by googling “AI exercise equipment” and despite the slick branding (it’s called Tonal btw) it was like 5th on the list. Do you think it’s awkward having all these overlapping grifts? In the pre-internet days I’m imagining like 10 unique traveling snake oil salesmen trying very hard to sell their bullshit over everyone else’s in the same tiny frontier town without inviting anyone to look too closely at any of them.
(it’s called Tonal btw)
Oh no this will make Luke-Jr so mad.
Context, Luke-Jr is an early Bitcoin adopter, literal Florida man, and all-around kook. His wikipedia user page used to be a work of art with an ordered list of his obsessions[1], starting with sedevacantism and including Tonal, an early attempt to promote hexadecimal. Here’s a long page on the old Bitcoin wiki: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin. Sadly it never caught on, people don’t want to say “bong bitcoin” apparently.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Luke-Jr&oldid=593942679
I’m vaguely remembering this and not sure where to look for confirmation, but wasn’t Luke-Jr the bitcoin maintainer who put his foot down and blocked a design change that would’ve made bitcoin much more efficient because it would have made it inconvenient for him to run a full node on a slow Florida residential cable internet connection?
people don’t want to say “bong bitcoin” apparently.
that’s weird, I’ve known so many guys whose whole personality is bong bitcoin
he also got verry angy when bitcoin ordinals were a thing for like two months
he used to distribute a Bitcoin client that censored addresses belonging to an early gambling service, people were mad
he’s fractally weird
the lack of self-awareness is definitely something
Yes he led the charge against the “bitcoin maxis” who wanted to increase the actual block size to contain more info. (this later became Bitcoin Cash). We had to endure stuff like “UASF” (user activated soft fork) for complicated reasons no-one can explain now.
including Tonal, an early attempt to promote hexadecimal
I am so happy I’ve seen this, it’s so bad.
I will now forever pronounce $2^{16}$ as bong.
Oh look! Human horrors
beyondregrettably within my comprehensionhttps://x.com/haveibeenpwned/status/1843780415175438817
Tweet description
New sensitive breach: “AI girlfriend” site Muah[.]ai had 1.9M email addresses breached last month. Data included AI prompts describing desired images, many sexual in nature and many describing child exploitation. 24% were already in @haveibeenpwned . More: https://404media.co/hacked-ai-girlfriend-data-shows-prompts-describing-child-sexual-abuse-2/
the mozilla PR campaign to convince everyone that advertising is the lifeblood of commerce and that this is perfectly fine and good (and that everyone should just accept their viewpoint) continues
We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it
try, you say? and what’s your plan for when you fail, but you’ve lost all your values in service of the attempt?
For this, we owe our community an apology for not engaging and communicating our vision effectively. Mozilla is only Mozilla if we share our thinking, engage people along the way, and incorporate that feedback into our efforts to help reform the ecosystem.
are you fucking kidding me? “we can only be who we are if we maybe sorta listen to you while we keep doing what we wanted to do”? seriously?
How do we ensure that privacy is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? These are significant and enduring questions that have no single answer. But, for right now on the internet of today, a big part of the answer is online advertising.
How do we ensure that traffic safety is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? A big part of the answer is drunk driving.
How do we prevent huge segments of the world from being priced out of access through paywalls?
Based Mozilla. Abolish landlords. Obliterate the commodity form. Full luxury gay communism now.
What a pisstake. Shit I don’t want to use palemoon, are there any other browsers???
the purestrain corporate non-apology that is “we should have communicated our vision effectively” when your entire community is telling you in no uncertain terms to give up on that vision because it’s a terrible idea nobody wants
“it’s a failure in our messaging that we didn’t tell you about the thing you’d hate in advance. if we were any good we would’ve gotten out ahead of it (and made you think it’s something else)”
and the thing is, that’s probably exactly the lesson they’re going to be learning from this :|
