Thoughts and prayers fren
kde?
Mhm
Just do a fresh install man. I’m getting anxiety just by looking at it.
yolo, friend. yolo.
what packaging system?
Duct tape and baling wire, perhaps?
Strapping tape and cardboard is way cleaner.
don’t forget the spit! pulls everything together nicely - lubricates, seals and protects.
I just tried updating my computer to Mint 22 and because I did a lot of tweaking to get VR running well it ended up uninstalling x11. I restored to backup and am now considering just doing a fresh install when 21 loses support instead lol.
Do it!
It’s my experience that Ubuntu and Fedora break if you don’t upgrade often (and then suddenly do after a year), while arch doesn’t… Which is interesting, since it’s supposed to be the other way around…
I think it’s because Fedora and Ubuntu add a lot of new things, while arch just updates it’s packages.
Fedora upgrades are very reliable. I’ve never had one fail, 24 upgrades and counting.
Was gonna say this. As long as you run
dnf updatebefore you upgrade and make sure there aren’t any left (you know, like their upgrade dpcs explicitly tell you to), you’re chilling.Only issues I’ve had with fedora upgrades so far are plasma incompatibilities (not a fedora issue) and nvidia bullshit (not a fedora issue).
Eh, I leave fedora for a while and come back and it’s fine. Never had it break and I’ve been using it consistently since like 27.
More please. Getting ready to switch from Windows to Linux, been making sure I can install all the -arr I want and get games running, but in Mint.
Now I’m hitting the brakes hard. It’s Arch if that means I don’t have this headache. I’ll need to start over learning, but it’ll be worth it.
Honestly if you are that worried about updates breaking stuff, you might be better off using an immutable distro. These work using images and/or snapshots so it’s easy to rollback if something goes wrong. It’s also just less likely to go wrong as you aren’t upgrading individual packages as much, but rather the base system as a whole. Both Fedora and Open Suse have atomic/immutable variants with derivatives like Universal Blue providing ready to go setups for specific use cases like gaming and workstation use.
Alternatively the likes of Debian rarely break because of updates as everything is thoroughly tested before deployment. Gentoo and void are the same deal but in rolling release format so they are at least somewhat up to date while still being quite well tested.
Well people were on here saying they do a clean reinstall, backing up their computer and doing a reinstall whenever there’s an update. Certainly don’t want to go through that hassle.
The idea of an immutable distro sounds pretty good, but I’m willing to do updates pretty often so I’m probably going to end up taking the risk quote unquote of Linux Mint.
I don’t think you have interpreted that correctly. People tend to reinstall when changing versions, for example from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04. That isn’t the same as doing updates.
I’ve had two different arch based distros have issues when trying to update after long periods. I also had an Ubuntu server fail completely when doing a major version upgrade and had to restore it from backup. But then again I’ve also had no trouble updating an Ubuntu machine that was a couple years behind.
I’m on Fedora now for my desktop and it’s been great so far, but I also do updates at least weekly. My advice would be if you expect to go months between updates your best choice is probably Debian.
As long as you update frequently (I do it whenever I think about it, usually once every few days to a week) you shouldn’t run into any issues
I recently updated an old laptop from Ubuntu 16 to 24 with no issues whatsoever. Do not start with Arch if you don’t have any Linux experience yet.
Looks like glibc got another update
That’s why I have an alias that does an unattended update and then powers off. I run this every night.
Ayy same!
I mapped the script to a single key I wouldn’t otherwise use. When I’m done for the day I hit the key and leave.
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Op, it’s been an entire day… How’d did it go?
I fear the worst
Light the signal fires.
2,409 updates could mean like two days of restarts… I’m just going to turn on some bagpipe music and stand on a hill in the wind looking out at the computer shaped clouds on the horizon.
He’s dead, Jim
Something i can say, did you have ready an snapshot of the system??, cuz too may things can go wrong with that numbre of updates.
If something like that happens, maybe the best option would be to just install a new fresh os lol
Troubleshooting everything that goes wrong will take my lifetime
The quick way
Side note: “I’mma” is a contraction of the whole phrase “I’m going to” or “I’m about to” so it’s followed immediately by the verb indicating what you’ll be doing:
“I’mma rawdog this sucker without backups.”
Yes, I added sucker, because it’s going to suck up all your time and data, sucka!
Op should have used “I’m finna rawdog this jawn no backup style”
For no reason other than mixed US slang from different regions sounds funnier to my ear
“no backup style” hits just right.
I’ve always thought of it as I am gonna
That’s the lightly slangy version I would normally use, but as long as I was being pedantic I thought I’d better avoid any contractions in that part.
