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      All I did was put in my current zip code (different than 2020’s), phone, first, and last name, and it pulled up my full name and age and current city and political leaning (very blue).

      Wild that they can just buy this data.

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        Are there any more funny jokes after that button? I only get

        Hi, non-American person.

        Unfortunately, only US citizens (and permanent residents) are eligible to participate in this whole thing. Sorry Canucks and weird British perverts.

        (Which is still funny)

        And how much did they offer you?

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      Now that’s how you build a proper mobile website!

      Also

      I used to love your card games before you got all political.

      Your mom used to love you before you got so fucking stupid.

      LMFAO, I should steal that and use it against those transphobic turds on Xitter complaining about Godot

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        CAH never really drew me in. I got it was funny madlibs, but I just didn’t care. Now that they got all political, I may get some for my shelf, they deserve it.

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      Lmao

      Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

      Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “[email protected]” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

      If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.

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        ahahaha!!

        Bad news possibly: are the MAGA schemers gonna send people to the Cards Against Humanity site and then ask for a $50 donation to even things out?

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        The whole FAQ is pretty amazing. My favorites:

        How do you know who didn’t vote?

        We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

        The data you have on me is wrong! I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever. I demand you fix this.

        Consider the teachings of Buddhism: “The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don’t wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy.”

        Now, calm your mind and meditate on the knowledge that Cards Against Humanity does not have time for this shit

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          I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever.

          Realistically they can’t know who you voted for in the past. That you voted is public record, what ballots were voted is public record, but not a connection between voter and ballot. So how you lean is basically a guess based on information they could have (given what it says about me I’m guessing that lack of party affiliation and being in an extremely red state (I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote) are the main factors that drove the assumptions about my leanings that it provided.

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            I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote

            Same. I wonder if there has been any analysis on the amount of people that have gone to solid blue all the way down the ballot solely due to Trump.

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      They can’t find my info after I put in my last 3 addresses 😭

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      Now that you mention it, anyone still using Twitter could just go right now and tweet Donald Trump is a human toilet for free. And they could right now. Go do it.

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      Great way for me to learn Ohio is considered a lost cause I guess? Not sure if i disagree (or care), for that matter; I want out.

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        Every trump election we’re assumed for him. I had hope in 16, but and maybe this year, but I think it’ll take issue 1 to drive us there

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    Is Kamala that unpopular that you have to pay people to vote. This is Hilary all over again. And yes I know it’s response to Musk but this wouldn’t have been necessary with Obama.

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      A lot of people are lazy and just assuming Trump will lose, won’t vote. Others it’s a challenge because they have to take time off work as voting day is not a holiday in the US. Additionally some polling locations have long lines, something notoriously common in low-income areas. People have been known to wait many hours just to vote and so not surprisingly these areas often have lower turnout due to frustration.

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        Friendly reminder that most states are now permitting at least early in-person voting for all voters, if not mail-in.

        Only three states offer neither…NH, MS, and AL. Those ones, people have to show up in person on a random-ass Tuesday.

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      It’s necessary because of all the money the other side has pumped in to getting morons to vote for a moron.

      If we want that to stop, I think using the same tactics while pointing out how it shouldn’t even be allowed is a pretty good strategy.

      Read through their statement https://www.apologize.lol/

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        They don’t need to stop. What they should do is adopt progressive policies that will excite the base. Number #1 would be stopping all arms sales to Israel.

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          The 2 party system forces politicians to do 1 of 2 things:

          1. Lie to and manipulate uneducated voters into thinking they’re the best option.
          2. Only enact middle of the road policies everyone likes to get voters in the middle to swing the vote in their favor.

          Our two party system is too entrenched to ever pass laws to remove itself, thus this will always be how politics works in the US. We should all be focused on some form of multiple choice voting like ranked choice if we ever want something different than the above, but I see no reality where the dems and gop come together and dilute their own power by making this a reality.

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          You egg. A far left candidate would lose to Trump so hard that the climate would be forced to turn into magma without any more help. Elections are about choosing the better of two options. Nobody us going to put up a candidate you agree with on everything: no such candidate exists.

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            Could we at least get a candidate who agrees with us on anything? They don’t even have to mean it; Obama was wildly successful because he made promises he had no intention of keeping.

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          Oh this again.

          K the Israel thing isn’t going to happen. It’s fucked up, I know.

          Anyway, that’s not what we were talking about. We were talking about money influencing politics. That’s what needs to stop.

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            You’re only flippant about Israel because you’re confident Harris will win. I’m going to laugh at all the liberals if Trump wins a second time because you didn’t take the concerns of the youth vote seriously and thought you could appeal to enough moderate Republicans.

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              People who give a shit about Palestine (and I find it weird you never actually used the word Palestine) will not take the course of action that will make things significantly worse for the people in Palestine.

              The people who do nothing about a situation are still better than the people who want to make it so much worse.

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                How is not voting for the perpetuators of genocide “taking the course of action that will male things significantly worse”.

                Do you understand what genocide is? It really doesn’t get any worse.

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                  The current American government is not actively involved in the bombing and is at least paying lip service to “this is bad and should stop”.

                  Trump is on record saying they should carpet bomb the whole area and be done with it.

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        Seems a bit patronizing to imply non-voters exist because of republican propaganda and not apathy caused by generations of being fucked over by politicians on both sides.

        I’m not saying don’t vote, or don’t vote blue, but don’t expect non-voters to give a fuck about what you have to say when you dismiss their concerns and imply they aren’t voting because republicans tricked them.

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          You’re getting downvoted by centrists. A trick I learned is to preface every comment with “I’m voting for the lesser fascist this November, but…”

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            I don’t get your point. I’m saying that belittling non-voters and misrepresenting their motivations is fucking horrible way to get them to vote.

            Liberals should spend less time berating leftists and more time criticizing their politicians for being shitty candidates.

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      I hear that Donald Trump the human toilet likes to have golden showers from underage girls.

      JD Vance told me so

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    If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning and I could get paid for it.

    Must be great to live in one of the seven states that’s allowed to decide our election thanks to the electoral college.

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      If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning

      You presumably live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party? Otherwise you very definitely don’t wish you were in a swing state.

      To put it simply, swing states are just the biggest states that are purple enough that you can’t safely predict what will happen. States like Texas or California going purple would immediately make them the most important swing state by far.

      The GOP is terrified Texas might become a swing state. If through some strange alchemy California were to become a swing state it would be an existential threat to the Democrats.

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        I fucking WISH we would go at least deep purple. Ive been seeing “Cats for Kamala” and “Harris Walz 2024” all over the place, and while it makes me happy, I also have to remember that I live in a very blue city in Texas. Im worried about all the rural people who are literally afraid of society.

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          So you do live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party, and thus the state going purple can only benefit your party. Imagine you with your current politics moved to California, would you want it to become a purple state?

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      State and local elections still matter outside of the electoral college!

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        I’m aware. I already participate in those.

        Doesn’t change the fact that my vote regarding the highest office in the country is a pointless effort.

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      Yeah, swing states are where it’s at. From Nate Silver’s forecast, the states most likely to tip the election (as of today, Oct 9).

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        I live in the Philly suburbs and it’s disturbing how many Trump signs I see in my area. I really really fucking hope he doesn’t win this state.

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          it’s up to you guys stop stop your neighbors from voting (as well as cast your own ballots). i would use any tool in the bag. this could be the end of the world if he wins. i don’t feel like that’s an exaggeration.

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            I’ve already mailed in my ballot. Not sure what you’re suggesting in terms of stopping my neighbors from voting but that sounds highly illegal.

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              Show me one law that explicitly states it’s illegal to build a 10ft wide moat around my neighbor’s house

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                Presumably that qualifies as vandalism unless you own 10 feet of property in a ring around his house, which is an uncommon situation. Depending on the wording it might also qualify as attempted kidnapping or unlawful imprisonment or something along those lines.

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                  I just looked up the vandalism laws in my state and I didn’t see the sentence “building a most around your neighbor’s house is illegal” anywhere, so I think I’m in the clear

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      Yes, so you vote this year, get others to vote, and then spend the next 4 years working to overturn the electoral college and get ranked choice voting implemented. If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.

      Stay focused.

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        If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.

        Here’s a question: are you doing all of that yourself?

        It just sounds to me like you’re attempting to say that people shouldn’t care or shouldn’t be frustrated if they’re not willing to spend every waking minute of their lives working towards change. And yes, while change does take time and effort, asking average citizens to go above and beyond doing their civic duty of voting is a bit much.

        This genuinely sounds like usual Republican rhetoric of “if you cared so much it wouldn’t be this way.”

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      I mean, you can vote and still get paid; I don’t live in a swing state but I got a whopping $0.17 for my efforts! It’s moreso about getting a voting plan together.

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    Federal law prohibits anyone from knowingly or willfully paying or offering to pay or accepting payment for registering to vote or voting (42 USC § 1973i©). It applies to primaries and elections that have candidates on the ballot for the office of president, vice president, presidential elector, or member of Congress, whether or not the violation alleges payment related to a candidate for one of those particular offices. It includes criminal penalties for violations. - https://www.cga.ct.gov/2001/rpt/2001-R-0132.htm

    It sucks when Elon does this shit just as much as when someone does it for your team, guys.

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      Hm, the tweet says they need to make a voting plan, not that they need to show that they’ve officially registered or voted. Loophole?

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        Try giving that loophole explanation to a Trump appointed judge and see how far that gets you. Do not risk federal charges for this stupid shit.

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          Try giving that loophole explanation to any reasonable and professional judge and see how far that gets you.

          Flip the sides and I would be surprised if a Trump appointed judge didnt accept some kind of bullshit loophole like this.

          I love CAH as much as the next degen but this feels iffy at best. But also they presumable ran this passed at least one lawyer who said ‘fuck it lets ball’ so maybe there is a leg to stand on here.

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            I really do not think its worth gambling with federal charges over (up to*)$100, but if you’re willing to risk it by all means, submit to their public shaming for a pittance, or implicate yourself by contributing. I just want people to know what they’re getting into.

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              My guy, I’m agreeing with your point. This probably wouldn’t hold up as legal in court, but also IANAL.

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      They’re not paying you to vote, they’re paying for you to apologize. I’m sure they have sufficient legal backing.

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      The CAH folks have pretty good lawyers. Judging purely on the fact that they formed a Super PAC, they likely have good legal cover.

      I found this pretty interesting:

      How do you know who didn’t vote? We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

      And later on:

      How do you know who’s “blue leaning”? We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us your voting history. You wouldn’t believe how easy it was for us to get this stuff. So fucked up!

      If they are basing this on which primary you vote in, it’s going to be terrible since people like me who live in a swing state vote in the Republican primary since that’s a more effective use of my vote than the Democratic primary.

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        I question the accuracy of their political lean assessment. I’m blazingly progressive and it has me down as “purple”. Bitch, I’m a socialist.

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        I dont doubt that they have good lawyers but the law doesn’t just have penalties for the people paying out, it also has penalties for accepting it. Even if they were offering free legal services to people who participate it still wouldn’t be worth it.

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    Can I just do all those things and take $100? I’m already planning on voting but it’d sure help.

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      Read their FAQ (it’s quite informative and pretty funny too!). Afaik you can if you actually didn’t vote the last time, lean blue, and are eligible to vote in a swing state

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        “America’s bluest non voters” and “tweet Donald trump is…”. Looks like they are only paying if you agree with their politics. That is buying votes. Offering it to all non voters is one thing but the other requirements make it shady. Just as bad as Elon Musk “sign a petition”. neither should be permitted.

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          They know

          Everyone is posting about getting paid for their apology. I did my part by getting a pack, and I want to post, too. What should I post?

          You should post:

          How is this not illegal??? Cards Against Humanity is PAYING people who didn’t vote in 2020 to apologize, make a voting plan, and post #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet—up to $100 for blue-leaning people in swing states. I helped by getting a 2024 Election Pack: www.Apologize.lol

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          You’ve got a point, if Elon did this for the right people would be screaming corruption, paying people only if they agree to vote the way you want them to is shady as fuck regardless of which side is doing it

          I’m probably just joining you in getting dogpiled here but oh well

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              I’m not following, I don’t live in the US. If he’s doing it too that also sucks but I don’t think stooping to that level is the way to solve that problem

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                Then read through the website linked and understand what is going on here if you’re not following.

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                  Having read up on the article about musk doing this, he’s not restricting it to people who are going to vote for a specific party which is the thing I take issue with.

                  Nothing wrong with paying people to vote in general, paying people only if they are going to vote the way you want them to sucks

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                It’s been pointed out that he is in fact doing it, several times actually. I’m actually pretty sure this is directly a result of the Muskrat doing it.

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              I can’t actually find the tweet you’re talking about but I’m assuming he’s deleted it or something

              From what people are saying it sounds like he was just paying non voters to vote at all, not restricting it to only people who shared his political beliefs

              I’d applaud it if that was what CAH were doing but they’re specifically whitelisting people they agree with to be able to get the money, IE paying people to agree with them

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                They are paying “people that didn’t vote in 2020”. It is ultimately a foil of Musks rightwing, but not reaaalllyy wiiink. Just theirs it more aimed towards blue voters, but only because the right struggles to insult their godking…but ultimately it is just words and not telling them to VOTE BLUE. Just like Musk is trying to get his predominantly red crowed to register and get paid, but not TELLING them to vote red

                It is completely asinine and a symptom of our trash system.

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                  Cah literally say in their FAQ that this is only offered to “the bluest voters” and imply (whether it’s true or not I don’t know) that they have information about who’s voted what and when to verify that

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            I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not, because Elon actually is doing that.

            In both these cases, the payment technically isn’t directly for voting for a specific candidate. The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with. Either way, still smells bad.

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/10/07/elon-musks-pac-is-paying-47-for-each-solicited-petition-signature-from-a-swing-state-voter-heres-why-its-controversial/

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              The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with.

              Supporting free speech and gun rights (literally all the petition says) is something only a Trump voter would agree with?

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                  Didn’t say that.

                  But the petition is being sold here as “pledging to vote for Trump”. which it plainly isn’t. It’s also been sold in this Lemmy thread as paying voters to sign a petition that only Trump voters would ever agree to sign.

                  The petition that allegedly only Trump voters would ever agree to sign, only states that you support free speech and gun rights. Whether or not I think Musk actually genuinely supports those things (I don’t) is irrelevant, that’s what the actual petition says.

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              I’m not being sarcastic, and I don’t follow American politics that closely so I didn’t know about this. I also don’t see why people think the right response to that is to just do the same thing though

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          That’s the point. Draw attention to the illegal shit Musk is doing so that maybe the one remaining judge in the US who wants to uphold the Constitution might do something about it.

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          That is buying votes.

          No, it’s not. Specifically because they aren’t actually requiring you to vote - they are paying you to make a public apology, post a tweet, and come up with a plan to vote but not based on whether or not you actually go through with that plan or vote at all. That distinction is the specific legal line they are walking.

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        Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.

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          Merely paying you to vote at all is illegal. But they’re not doing that - they’re paying you to make a plan to vote, to post a tweet and to make a public apology. Nothing says you have to go through with the plan to vote, merely that you make one - and that distinction is the legal line they are walking.

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        Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.

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      American politics forces itself on me and I can’t even vote in their elections, that’s fucking bullshit. No spamming without representation!

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      Same here! As we all would be victims if Trump get reelected, I’d like to support you and buy those cards!

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      I’m not Canadian, nor British. I demand an apology! And a proper insult to my nationality! 😄

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        Based on your .nl, I will assume you are tall, ride a bike everywhere, and love cheese. But I’m sure some yank will find something offensive to call you. Just be patient.

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        British pervert

        Don’t worry if anyone sees you…

        All the lights are on, but the blinds are down.

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        So for the first time we don’t get lumped in with the yanks, we get lumped in with the Brits instead???

        We just can’t win.

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          Canada is the comma of nations. Technically it’s supposed to be there, but no one notices if it’s missing.

          Canada’s influence is so weak they couldn’t even convince the world their bacon is actually bacon.

          Canada’s claim to fame is being slightly more interesting than North Dakota.

          Canada’s national anthem sounds like an apology letter set to music.

          Canada’s idea of influence is having 90% of their population living within 100 miles of the US border and constantly asking “hey what are you guys up to, eh?”

          Edit: (Love you, Canada!)

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            Canada only exists today because it is America’s hat and the founding fathers drew a line way farther south than the British originally thought they would. You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war, it’s wild to think about.

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              You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war,

              This piqued my curiosity. It took some digging but I found what you’re referring to - any other curious readers can search their favourite engine for the following:

              “Oswalt red line map treaty of Paris”

              There aren’t many sources and none are particularly high quality, but it’s certainly interesting.

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              I’ve enjoyed every time I’ve ever been to Canada except for one time when a young truck driver and his friend at a bar took offense to me calling him an asshole for being rude to the bartender, tried to beat me up in the bar, got kicked out, and then over an hour later when me and gf called a cab and left, he and his friend popped up from behind a snowbank across the street and sprinted at us.

              We got into the cab before they got there, the driver was confused, we told him to lock the doors and go, and then the dudes got there and started beating on the windows screaming for us to get out. Then the driver got it and peeled off.

              Alcohol: it’s not for everyone. But I almost have to admire the dedication to wait outside behind a snowbank for over an hour in the middle of winter just to try to beat someone up for saying “don’t be such an asshole.” Turns out not all Canadians are nice!

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    Her’s how you might also be able to help:

    Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

    Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “[email protected]” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

    If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.